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[W:208] Yikes. It has begun.

jaeger19 said:
Let's see..we had record gun sales in 2000s..i.e. easy access to guns
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Gun deaths increased from roughly 30,000 to 40,000 during that time. Fail.
 
Moot said:
When the gun goes bang....it's no longer an inanimate object because it's mechanisms move to spark the bullet that shoots out and flies through the air and punctures the skin and explodes inside the body. A gun is not an inanimate object. I sure hope you don't have kids.
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Yes firearms are inanimate objects. They are not alive.
 
calamity said:
Gun deaths increased from roughly 30,000 to 40,000 during that time. Fail.
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Nope.
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
 
calamity said:
Yes it is. Easy access to guns, lots of death. Simple math.


When a three-year-old can pull the trigger, it's too light.


Yes it is, and unfortunately too many are pulling triggers while pointing the gun at someone.
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Do you even know what post I was originally replying to? #22, not about trigger pull or availability. I guess more of a sentient thing.
 
zsu2357 said:
Do you even know what post I was originally replying to? #22, not about trigger pull or availability. I guess more of a sentient thing.
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I simply filled in the blanks. You said, "No." And, I added the rest. Quite well, I must say.
 
calamity said:
You said the 2000's. Quit moving goalposts.
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From the mid-90s to 2000, firearm homicides sharply declined. From then until 2018, they were fairly stable.

Facts and Figures

Review some basics on firearm injury and death, including a description of deaths from firearms by type and the economic costs.
health.ucdavis.edu health.ucdavis.edu

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calamity said:
Gun deaths increased from roughly 30,000 to 40,000 during that time. Fail.
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mainly suicides. and violent crime went down while gun sales skyrocketed

lets just stop the charade and stop the bullshit that crime control is what motivates these silly anti gun posts.
 
zsu2357 said:
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to read between the lines. No more wascally wabbits Elmer?
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**** does this mean? C'mon, don't be coy. Tell me what you read between the lines. Let's have a simple, declarative statement. Say what you mean here in front of God and everyone, or have you got nothing but snippy little innuendo?
Go ahead, stand up and tell me what you read between the lines. Got it in you or not?
 
RF667799 said:
From the mid-90s to 2000, firearm homicides sharply declined. From then until 2018, they were fairly stable.

Facts and Figures

Review some basics on firearm injury and death, including a description of deaths from firearms by type and the economic costs.
health.ucdavis.edu health.ucdavis.edu

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I wasn't talking about the 90's. That is a generation ago.
 
calamity said:
Gun deaths. Correct?
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pretending that suicides have any relevance to "assault weapons" is moronic. Banning "assault weapons" normal capacity magazines or requiring private sales background checks are absolutely worthless in having anything to do with suicide prevention
 
calamity said:
There is no need to pretend. Suicides are gun deaths. Now, your denial....that's pretending.
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what does banning semi auto rifles and normal capacity magazines have to do with suicide prevention?
 
TurtleDude said:
what does banning semi auto rifles and normal capacity magazines have to do with suicide prevention?
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Nothing but she thinks guns run around killing people. Nothing to worry about though because she thinks the guns will commit suicide.
 
TurtleDude said:
what does banning semi auto rifles and normal capacity magazines have to do with suicide prevention?
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What's a normal capacity magazine? 5, 10, 20, 30 rounds?

The constitution only allows you this:

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Don't push your luck. You shouldn't be able to own any of these except the first one.

 
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dave8383 said:
What's a normal capacity magazine? 5, 10, 20, 30 rounds?

The constitution only allows you this:

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Don't push your luck. You shouldn't be able to own any of these except the first couple.

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As has no doubt been pointed out to you many times, the 2nd amendment allowed the private ownership of the most advanced arms available to the military at the time. We don't even come close to allowing that now, nor should we, but allowing civilians the basic combat rifle of an infantryman seems reasonable enough, modified for civilian use.
 
dave8383 said:
What's a normal capacity magazine? 5, 10, 20, 30 rounds?

The constitution only allows you this:

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Don't push your luck. You shouldn't be able to own any of these except the first one.

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your understanding of the constitution needs some work. The good news is that someone like you will never be in a position to determine what I own
 
Grandpappy said:
White House announcement:

This Administration will not wait for the next mass shooting to heed that call. We will take action to end our epidemic of gun violence and make our schools and communities safer. Today, I am calling on Congress to enact commonsense gun law reforms, including requiring background checks on all gun sales, banning assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, and eliminating immunity for gun manufacturers who knowingly put weapons of war on our streets. We owe it to all those we’ve lost and to all those left behind to grieve to make a change. The time to act is now.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...GIChw8TvUuBWclIyKcNLgkFDY2Qe1gQuNhMNfUpqiq0cw

Is Beto still on track to be the Gun Grabber Czar?
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What will they do when the next mass murder happens after the reforms are passed?
 
dave8383 said:
What's a normal capacity magazine? 5, 10, 20, 30 rounds?

The constitution only allows you this:

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Don't push your luck. You shouldn't be able to own any of these except the first one.

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ASHES said:
As has no doubt been pointed out to you many times, the 2nd amendment allowed the private ownership of the most advanced arms available to the military at the time. We don't even come close to allowing that now, nor should we, but allowing civilians the basic combat rifle of an infantryman seems reasonable enough, modified for civilian use.
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I would love to pull up into a harbor one of these days with a fully fitted up BB just so I could sue the hell out of the government.
 
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