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[W:1607] ***2022 General Election Thread***

Here's what Likely Voters think is the mess in Maricopa County:

Republicans in Arizona say problems with the election in Maricopa County prevented many people from voting. How likely is it that these problems affected the outcome of the Senate election in Arizona?

ImportanceLV'sRepublicanDemocratOther
Very likely
40%​
52%​
23%​
45%​
Somewhat likely
31%​
27%​
42%​
23%​
Not very likely
10%​
11%​
10%​
8%​
Not at all likely
13%​
4%​
20%​
16%​
Not sure
6%​
5%​
5%​
8%​

Do you agree or disagree with this statement about the election problems in Arizona: “This isn't about Republicans or Democrats. This is about our sacred right to vote, a right that many voters were, sadly, deprived of on November 8th"?

AgreementLV'sRepublicanDemocratOther
Strongly agree
45%​
60%​
35%​
41%​
Somewhat agree
27%​
18%​
34%​
29%​
Somewhat disagree
5%​
5%​
6%​
3%​
Strongly disagree
13%​
8%​
17%​
15%​
Not sure
10%​
9%​
8%​
13%​

So it doesn't matter what party you look at, a majority at least somewhat agrees that the fiasco in Maricopa County deprived many citizens of their right to vote and may have affected the outcome of the Senate election. In fact, the spread in opinions is only nine points wide for the second and fourteen for the second, these days that's pretty much a solid agreement.
Somehow I don't think think that the "somewhats" would ""agree" were this not a Trumpian trope, a theme that he and some of his allies have used to turn the normal irregularities in any election into satanic plots, offering no evidence -- such as the normal who-when-where-how that is a normal part of any fraud.
 
Here's what Likely Voters think is the mess in Maricopa County:
LOL...that is a NATIONAL poll....as if randomly called "voters" by RASSMUSSEN across the US have any idea what happened at a few voting sites in Phoenix.

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Tim Ryan has already ruled on the case brought by the AZ GOP, it was dismissed.

 
Here's what Likely Voters think is the mess in Maricopa County:

Republicans in Arizona say problems with the election in Maricopa County prevented many people from voting. How likely is it that these problems affected the outcome of the Senate election in Arizona?

The irregularities in Maricopa County did not effect the outcome of the Arizona Senate race. Senator Kelly also did well in the other 14 AZ Counties outside of Maricopa County. He won those 14 AZ Counties by about 2.6%.
 
Here's what Likely Voters think is the mess in Maricopa County:

Republicans in Arizona say problems with the election in Maricopa County prevented many people from voting. How likely is it that these problems affected the outcome of the Senate election in Arizona?

ImportanceLV'sRepublicanDemocratOther
Very likely
40%​
52%​
23%​
45%​
Somewhat likely
31%​
27%​
42%​
23%​
Not very likely
10%​
11%​
10%​
8%​
Not at all likely
13%​
4%​
20%​
16%​
Not sure
6%​
5%​
5%​
8%​

Do you agree or disagree with this statement about the election problems in Arizona: “This isn't about Republicans or Democrats. This is about our sacred right to vote, a right that many voters were, sadly, deprived of on November 8th"?

AgreementLV'sRepublicanDemocratOther
Strongly agree
45%​
60%​
35%​
41%​
Somewhat agree
27%​
18%​
34%​
29%​
Somewhat disagree
5%​
5%​
6%​
3%​
Strongly disagree
13%​
8%​
17%​
15%​
Not sure
10%​
9%​
8%​
13%​

So it doesn't matter what party you look at, a majority at least somewhat agrees that the fiasco in Maricopa County deprived many citizens of their right to vote and may have affected the outcome of the Senate election. In fact, the spread in opinions is only nine points wide for the second and fourteen for the second, these days that's pretty much a solid agreement.
What people “think” has no legal weight. After the MAGA people make a baseless assertion, a certain number of people will accept that as fact. That doesn’t make it a fact.
 
LOL...that is a NATIONAL poll....as if randomly called "voters" by RASSMUSSEN across the US have any idea what happened at a few voting sites in Phoenix.
The respondents have the same reporting available the the locals, and considering that Maricopa County is the only voting location that spectacularly screwed the pooch this time it's going to be noticed. As for Rasmussen, for the Congressional ballot they only missed the actual total by a couple points--the same as Emerson and Economist/YouGov and much better than NBC and Politico/Morning Consult.

What people “think” has no legal weight.
No, but it certainly affects how they view politics, politicians, and who and what they should vote for.
 
What people “think” has no legal weight. After the MAGA people make a baseless assertion, a certain number of people will accept that as fact. That doesn’t make it a fact.
In addition , Rasmussen tends to lean conservative, so results here are not surprising.
 
A court has ordered the rogue rural Representative AZ county to certify its results.

Statewide certification will conclude on Monday, as planned.
 
The respondents have the same reporting available the the locals,
The "respondents" are out of state, never voted in AZ in 2022, have no idea what happened at individual voting sites, have little to no information from local sources. It is absurd to claim that "access" to media is equal to having any actual knowledge of what is happening in Phoenix. It is ignorant polling, totally worthless.
and considering that Maricopa County is the only voting location that spectacularly screwed the pooch this time it's going to be noticed
It was a printer issue that caused no significant issues. Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Tim Ryan has already ruled on the case brought by the AZ GOP on the issue, it was dismissed.
As for Rasmussen, for the Congressional ballot they only missed the actual total by a couple points--the same as Emerson and Economist/YouGov and much better than NBC and Politico/Morning Consult.
That in no way excuses the fact the poll was from random people outside of Arizona. You lied when YOU claimed it was a poll of AZ republicans.
Republicans in Arizona say
 
The final California US House race has been called by the Associated Press.

221 Republicans
213 Democrats

1 race is still uncalled: Böbert (R-Colorado)

If the mandatory recount confirms her 550-vote lead (which it will), all races will be called by mid-December.

Republicans will have 222 seats, Democrats 213 - exactly the mirror image of the last election in 2020.
 
The Representative from Virginia's 4th Congressional District, a Democrat, has died of colonial cancer.

RIP.

He was re-elected by a 30% margin on Nov. 8th.

A special election will be held in early 2023.
 
The Representative from Virginia's 4th Congressional District, a Democrat, has died of colonial cancer.

RIP.

He was re-elected by a 30% margin on Nov. 8th.

A special election will be held in early 2023.
No, that was an old disease
 
The final California US House race has been called by the Associated Press.

221 Republicans
213 Democrats

1 race is still uncalled: Böbert (R-Colorado)

If the mandatory recount confirms her 550-vote lead (which it will), all races will be called by mid-December.

Republicans will have 222 seats, Democrats 213 - exactly the mirror image of the last election in 2020.

GOP House candidates got about 3.1 million more votes than Democratic House candidates nationwide. Link
 
In addition , Rasmussen tends to lean conservative, so results here are not surprising.
By a point or two, within the margin of error. All the best pollsters are, on average, similarly close.

You lied when YOU claimed it was a poll of AZ republicans.
You misread the post. I never claimed it was a poll of Arizona Republicans, it was the question asked which stated that Arizona Republicans said that the Maricopa fiasco prevented people from voting ... which it did. The question is whether it prevented enough from voting to affect the outcome of the election, which is what the poll question asked about. And 40% of Likely Voters responding--including almost 1/4 of Democrats--said it very likely did.
 
“This shit” is what makes accusations of voter fraud and stolen elections superficially plausible. We should all follow Florida’s example, and have all the counting and reporting of results done the night of the election. Florida has certainly come a long way since the 2000 debacle.
Um Florida still took a week or so to count votes. It went fast because the margins where too large for anyone to overcome..hence why it was called so fast.
 
Um Florida still took a week or so to count votes. It went fast because the margins where too large for anyone to overcome..hence why it was called so fast.
There's a bit more to it than that. One of the big ones is how Florida handles mail-in ballots. For starters, you can't request a mail-in ballot within six days of an election, and if your ballot doesn't arrive by 7 pm on Election Day you're out of luck. Then, Florida starts tabulating those mail-in ballots almost a month early, so by the time Election Day rolls around almost all of them have already been counted.
 
There's a bit more to it than that. One of the big ones is how Florida handles mail-in ballots. For starters, you can't request a mail-in ballot within six days of an election, and if your ballot doesn't arrive by 7 pm on Election Day you're out of luck. Then, Florida starts tabulating those mail-in ballots almost a month early, so by the time Election Day rolls around almost all of them have already been counted.
They were still counting a week later dude.
 
which it did.
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Tim Ryan has already ruled on the case brought by the AZ GOP on the issue, it was dismissed.

The question is whether it prevented enough from voting to affect the outcome of the election, which is what the poll question asked about. And 40% of Likely Voters responding--including almost 1/4 of Democrats--said it very likely did.
Again, Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Tim Ryan has already ruled on the case brought by the AZ GOP on the issue, it was dismissed. Further, the opinion of ignorant out of state republicans who continue to disregard the fact that his issue was already addressed shows that even when they get INFORMATION, they will ignore it and keep on believing false reports.
 

GOP Senator: Vote For Herschel Walker Instead Of 'High IQ' People





"These woke high IQ stupid people are easy to recognize," said Kennedy, who graduated from Vanderbilt University and the University of Virginia School of Law before attending Magdalen College, Oxford. "They hate George Washington. They hate Thomas Jefferson. They hate Dr. Suess, and they hate Mr. Potato Head."


So I guess that means people in GA are supposed to vote for a dumbass.
 
More than 1 month after the election, California has finished counting its votes.

Certification is only in 1 week though: December 16th.

Colorado's 3rd district (Böbert) finishes their recount next week too.

Then I think there is only New York left, which will certify its elections 6 weeks (!) after election day.
 
By the time the presidential election arrives the republican party will be nothing more than a dead skunk in the middle of the road as the old song went.
 
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