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[W:1103] Netanyahu tells Israel ‘We are at war’ after Hamas launches an unprecedented attack on the country - Live Thread.

JANFU said:
Israel was warned by Egypt, ignored it
Initially denied receiving the warnings
Now confirm they were warned
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These settlers the IDF has been over-focused on protecting are mostly the imported Russian Ultra Orthodox, who repay this attention by refusing to serve in the IDF. Parasites!
 
jaypatriot said:
Good job. Blaming the plight of Palestinians on Israel.
So Hamas is justified doing what they did over the weekend?
Is that your simple logic?
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Terrorism is never justified. However, claiming that Israel has done nothing to the Palestinians is just silly and dishonest. When one's shield looks like this

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Claiming one is innocent is a major problem.
 
If the IDF unleashes its full might on Hamas and some other folks happen to get killed, Inshallah.
 
Variant said:
The blockade was in response to things that hadn't happened yet, it was a precautionary measure.

It also makes Gaza basically an unlivable prison and terrorist incubation center.

In terms of keeping out weapons, we can't really call it a success if it didn't do it's job, in terms of the policy perpetuating the problems we see over there it's hard to deny.

Again I don't live in the world where it wasn't done so comparisons to that state of affairs are hypothetical.
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Really. So no attacks against Israel came from gaza prior to the blockade. And a group that seeks the total destruction of Israel as a stated goal had not just taken over that area. Interesting.


Maybe if the people living there want better living conditions they should stop attacking Israel stop letting terrorists run their country.
 
jaypatriot said:
Really. So no attacks against Israel came from gaza prior to the blockade. And a group that seeks the total destruction of Israel as a stated goal had not just taken over that area. Interesting.


Maybe if the people living there want better living conditions they should stop attacking Israel stop letting terrorists run their country.
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They don't have a country, they have territory that nominally belongs to them but until that point was fully occupied and administered by Israel.

When Israel left they imposed a military blockade that lasted until present.

Hamas took control of the place years after it was blockaded as we discussed.

If you want people to make better decisions you can't keep treating them like they are all terrorists.
 
coyote505 said:
These settlers the IDF has been over-focused on protecting are mostly the imported Russian Ultra Orthodox, who repay this attention by refusing to serve in the IDF. Parasites!
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Nazis referred to Jews as parasites
 
Ethel2 said:
There are over 1000 dead Israelis now.
How many of them were children or babies?
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Sounds like you are trying to justify genocide based on a thousand terrorist victims.
 
JANFU said:
Nazis referred to Jews as parasites
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That may make it a sensitive term. Doesn't change the facts. What have they done FOR Israel?
 
Variant said:
Sounds like you are trying to justify genocide based on a thousand terrorist victims.
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Of course I am not advocating for genocide. I don’t want innocent civilians killed on either side. That’s why I proposed warning them to leave (as the IDF commonly does) before the bombs are released.
Level buildings, not people.
Convince them to surrender by depriving them of the essentials.
But don’t act like the barbarians by butchering children, babies, and shoot innocent civilians at point blank range-or target them with bombs.
 
braindrain said:
Really. So no attacks against Israel came from gaza prior to the blockade. And a group that seeks the total destruction of Israel as a stated goal had not just taken over that area. Interesting.
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Sderot endured constant bombing for years, but the Israelis adjusted to it. Gaza was too close to Sderot for the short-ranged missiles to hit their targets. Children were terrorized by the constant air raid sirens in Sderot. People turned on their car radios, willing to miss an air raid warning, because they couldn't stand the noise of the constant sirens. But this latest attack was not the bumbling efforts of frustrated people hoping to kill some Jews. This was a sophisticated operation break designed only to commit war crimes. Hamas has to go.
 
NewfieMom said:
Sderot endured constant bombing for years, but the Israelis adjusted to it. Gaza was too close to Sderot for the short-ranged missiles to hit their targets. Children were terrorized by the constant air raid sirens in Sderot. People turned on their car radios, willing to miss an air raid warning, because they couldn't stand the noise of the constant sirens. But this latest attack was not the bumbling efforts of frustrated people hoping to kill some Jews. This was a sophisticated operation break designed only to commit war crimes. Hamas has to go.
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So there were attacks from gaza prior to the blockade. And it wasn’ta response to things that hasn’t happened yet.
Better let varaint know. He seems really confused.
 
Ethel2 said:
Of course I am not advocating for genocide. I don’t want innocent civilians killed on either side. That’s why I proposed warning them to leave (as the IDF commonly does) before the bombs are released.

Level buildings, not people.
Convince them to surrender by depriving them of the essentials.
But don’t act like the barbarians by butchering children, babies, and shoot innocent civilians at point blank range-or target them with bombs.
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Leveling cities as a collective punishment against an ethnic group when they comit a terrorist act against you is basically genocide.

So is cutting off food and water actually.

So would be the forcable relocation of 2 million people as you burn their homes to the ground and deny them food and water.

All are war crimes, also, they would all be genocide. Or if you prefer ethnic cleansing.
 
Apocalypse said:
The death toll of the Hamas massacres is now updated to over 1,000 .
Of those 123 soldiers and 41 police.
Majority of those killed are the residents of the near-border villages, towns and kibbutzim in south Israel who were executed by the masses after being tortured.
Over 270 of those killed were the young people attending the rave party in the music festival near Re'eim.
About 150 kidnapped held in Gaza, mostly women and children.
Number of deaths is still expected to increase as more bodies are discovered. Today in Kfar Aza 40 bodies of babies and children were discovered with some of them beheaded by the Hamas Nazis.
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Christ Almighty. Thank you for the horrible update Apocalypse. I do not know if I would have been able to write it
 
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Variant said:
Leveling cities as a collective punishment against an ethnic group when they comit a terrorist act against you is basically genocide.

So is cutting off food and water actually.

So would be the forcable relocation of 2 million people as you burn their homes to the ground and deny them food and water.

All are war crimes, also, they would all be genocide. Or if you prefer ethnic cleansing.
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Definition of genocide: note: you have to kill real people to fulfill the definition:

“the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”


Cutting off food and water opens the opportunity for surrender. No one has to die.
Heinous crimes deserve harsh punishments, not a pat on the back.
 
Ethel2 said:
Definition of genocide: note: you have to kill real people to fulfill the definition:

“the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.”


Cutting off food and water opens the opportunity for surrender. No one has to die.
Heinous crimes deserve harsh punishments, not a pat on the back.
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If you don't think leveling cites removing food and water and forced population removal are going to kill a lot of people you are an idiot.
 
Variant said:
If you don't think leveling cites removing food and water and forced population removal are going to kill a lot of people you are an idiot.
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Let’s not make this a personal attack any more than you already did. Good thing I have a thick skin.
I gave you the definition of genocide and I am not proposing that. What I proposed doesn’t have to result in a lot of deaths. Surrender should be an option, always.
 
Ethel2 said:
Let’s not make this a personal attack any more than you already did. Good thing I have a thick skin.
I gave you the definition of genocide and I am not proposing that. What I proposed doesn’t have to result in a lot of deaths. Surrender should be an option, always.
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You are proposing it you just don't know it. So, I called you what that makes you.
 
JANFU said:
Israel was warned by Egypt, ignored it
Initially denied receiving the warnings
Now confirm they were warned
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If it was actionable intelligence and not simply “Hamas is going to attack Israel” he should resign in disgrace.
 
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