Voting for the lest worst option

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[uptower]

... is getting old.
The last time I voted for someone that I wanted to be President was when I was bamboozled by Obama's first run.
16 freaking years ago!!!

We are way past the "lesser of evils" trope.

One is a senile megalomaniac who's on ****ing trial right now for attempting to steal an election.

The other is...a black woman.

 

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[Cardinal]

... is getting old.
The last time I voted for someone that I wanted to be President was when I was bamboozled by Obama's first run.
16 freaking years ago!!!

Look at it this way: when you vote for the "less worse" option, you are slowly moving the pool...or the overton window, if you will...of options toward the better. Every time you vote for the worse candidate, you move the window toward the worse. And that's because in every election you are always faced with options where one is better than the other. Every time the worse candidate wins, what is "better" becomes less meaningful than before.

So by voting for the better candidate now, you make an even better candidate possible later. It's an investment in the future. And that's why you should vote for Harris.

 

[multivita-man]

When I disliked both major party’s candidates, I don’t vote for the lesser of two evils or the least worse candidate. I vote against both by casting a ballot for a third-party candidate. That way I have officially registered my disgust and opposition to both major party candidates.

For the life of me, I can’t see or understand when someone opposes both major party candidates, thinks both suck, why one would pick one or the other. What one has done is encourage the two major parties to continue to nominate bad, disliked and unwanted candidates outside of their own party.

Because one sucks more and not voting for either is almost the same as not voting. You're helping the shittier candidate win.

Something else to chew on: the consequences of voting takes time to be realized. The situation we're living with now in 2024 has to do with the way people voted - or not - in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. We're still living with the repercussions of the Great Financial Crisis, the invasion of Iraq, and the nation-building experiment in Afghanistan. That's 15-20 years ago, but we're still living with those consequences now, still trying to navigate that world. Imagine with the price of getting it wrong now, in 2024, is in 2036 or 2040. Maybe we won't be around to see it, but our children (or nieces/nephews in my case) and grandchildren sure will.

 

[Cork]

thanks.

the basics: Living is about LIFE.

if we can't protect LIFE at the most Basic level, what is our Purpose in this Life. ???

i am not swayed by the Nonsense on these debate forums; for the most part everything going on in Criminal dee cee is Destroying Life, not protecting Life and making Life better, anywhere.

they don't intend to make Life better, so i don't vote for them.

Simple equation for me, win, win win.

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I respect it doesn't mean I agree with it but at least you have a reason. Though you could of picked a different candidate that's not destroying the norm of American politics.

 

[Revelation]

There is only one evil in this race. I am voting FOR Trump.

regardless of who wins, the Fascists will MOVE us into their fascist way of life.

note how they moved their pieces creating the Covid plandemic and gain of function regarding the virus. they KNOW how to Control us, been doing it for thousands of years.

and they will stop because we vote the Blue dee cee Criminals out which i will do? pray for dee cee people. thanks.

Harris isn't an insane fascist. That distinguish her from her opponent, making her the clear choice.

that is what scares me about kamel/tampon, they ARE in the pockets of the fascists and Oligarchs.

who controls the press in usa? of course the Oligarchy.

the Oligarchy world wide is heading toward WW three and fascism.

the press Overwhelmingly support the corrupt kamel/tampon.

Logically when the fascists demand that kamel/tampon jump to their Tunes: they jump.

what has Branden done to stop nato/putin ??? Zero, seem Billions more to fight; in the End putin/Russia gets all Eastern Europe with a pot of blood.

ok, so wait and see if you don't wanna know prophetically

stop voting for War mongers, murderers and child killers...........send dee cee Blue Criminals packing and off to jail.

thanks.

 

[Revelation]

Because one sucks more and not voting for either is almost the same as not voting. You're helping the shittier candidate win.

Something else to chew on: the consequences of voting takes time to be realized. The situation we're living with now in 2024 has to do with the way people voted - or not - in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. We're still living with the

repercussions of the Great Financial Crisis, the invasion of Iraq, and the nation-building experiment in Afghanistan.

War is not free, neither are the Repercussions of our Disasters in vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, ukraine..........the list goes on.

do you like the fascist Imperialism they demand from us?

why not give peace a chance?

why not bring ALL troops home and all Industrial jobs back home?

or keep fighting NO WIN wars with Money we don't have.

your choice, vote in the dee cee Criminals for more no win wars and outsourcing of jobs to China.

brilliant people, now wear a Big Head and tell me how smart this is.

thanks.

That's 15-20 years ago, but we're still living with those consequences now, still trying to navigate that world.

we will live in a Fascist world by then, with no usa to be called a nation.

peel the onion back on this, learn the fascist direction. understand WEF, CBDC............at least start some where.

or go no where.

Imagine with the price of getting it wrong now, in 2024, is in 2036 or 2040.

i already have imagined the price, ......yeah BIG Joke on the forums.

now what?

thanks.

Maybe we won't be around to see it, but our children (or nieces/nephews in my case) and grandchildren sure will.

what children, they have been aborted?

next.

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[Revelation]

I respect it doesn't mean I agree with it but at least you have a reason. Though you could of picked a different candidate that's not destroying the norm of American politics.

ok, thanks.

what other candidate?

Libertarian?

if i am ONE issue, then what choice do i have ???

no one answers that question.............and i don't hold my breath.

Though you could of picked a different candidate that's not destroying the norm of American politics.

norm of american politics?

what makes that any thing good?

it is better than the violence of the press vs Orange and Blue criminals yes. other than that there really IS NOT a good system

it is ALL corrupt.

so i pick thru the garbage to find the remains of Civilization.


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[Revelation]

wow, thanks for misinfo

who opened up the Borders ?

they could close them today, but will not.

who is printing money for wars?

who is killing the unborn and boast about it?

you know the answer as well as i do.

vote to end wars and killing children, stop the dee cee deception.

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[Revelation]

what a Joke, he just voted against his children.

don't believe the ads.

vote FOR yur children and the unborn.

blessings.

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[Revelation]

are you saying to vote for the kamel master of Word Salads?

LOL

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[jpn]

... is getting old.
The last time I voted for someone that I wanted to be President was when I was bamboozled by Obama's first run.
16 freaking years ago!!!

Only a person for whom public policy is a complete mystery would write this.

Keep it simple, then. One supports democracy, win or lose. The other has already demonstrated that he does not.

 

[Revelation]

Only a person for whom public policy--and its real-life consequences--is a complete mystery would write this.

hey Navy guy, vote against the blue dee cee War mongers, kick the fascists and baby killers out.

stop debasing the currency.

say no to the WEF and CBDC.

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[Gardener]

All that is necessary for the Democrats in this forum is to have a D next to a politician's name. The party has gone SO far left the last 15 years that it is unrecognizable today.

 

[Perotista]

Because one sucks more and not voting for either is almost the same as not voting. You're helping the shittier candidate win.

Something else to chew on: the consequences of voting takes time to be realized. The situation we're living with now in 2024 has to do with the way people voted - or not - in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. We're still living with the repercussions of the Great Financial Crisis, the invasion of Iraq, and the nation-building experiment in Afghanistan. That's 15-20 years ago, but we're still living with those consequences now, still trying to navigate that world. Imagine with the price of getting it wrong now, in 2024, is in 2036 or 2040. Maybe we won't be around to see it, but our children (or nieces/nephews in my case) and grandchildren sure will.

No, I helped neither and I voted against both. To help one or the other, their vote total would have to go up by one. Neither did, neither helped nor even hurt by a third-party vote. Beside who is the lesser evil is subjective, determined in the eye of the beholder. People who advocate voting for the lesser of two evils always assume that lesser of two evils is their candidate. That’s not always the case. In 2020 the lesser of two evils was Biden, in 2016 it was Trump or that is how those people who disliked and didn’t want neither one decided which candidate was the lesser of two evils and voted for the lesser evil which happened to be Trump in 2016 over the more evil Clinton and happened to be Biden as the lesser of two evils over Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/national/president

National Results 2020 President exit polls.

See National Results 2020 President exit polls.

www.cnn.com

 

[trixare4kids]

... is getting old.
The last time I voted for someone that I wanted to be President was when I was bamboozled by Obama's first run.
16 freaking years ago!!!

I voted for neither in 2008.
More of the same war mongering from the Bush era, and a community worker.
What could go wrong?


I'm voting for Trump because the woman is a complete flip-flopper, (the former is who she really is), and is now pretending to be a moderate in order to win. No can do. She isn't qualified.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

You're always voting for the least-worst option. A defensive vote is just as valuable is an offensive one (if I'm making sense).

Sure it makes sense, but I am tired of it.
All I am saying, and the borg are going to answer like the borg they are, is I am tired of voting for "least worst".
We can do better than this.
Our corporatized illegitimate media is our enemy. Our enemy.
They divide us, dramatize everything that is not important and ignore everything that is.
People get into this "Borg" - group mentality, where they think they have to believe and repeat 100% of what they are told to believe and repeat.
They are making imbeciles out of BOTH sides.

I am tired of it.

 

[multivita-man]

No, I helped neither and I voted against both.

By failing to help prevent the worst outcome, you made the worst outcome more likely. You can deny that all you want, but that's the reality. Voting for Jill Stein or writing in Kermit the Frog is a waste of your time and your vote.

To help one or the other, their vote total would have to go up by one.

Nope.

Neither did, neither helped nor even hurt by a third-party vote. Beside who is the lesser evil is subjective, determined in the eye of the beholder. People who advocate voting for the lesser of two evils always assume that lesser of two evils is their candidate. That’s not always the case. In 2020 the lesser of two evils was Biden, in 2016 it was Trump or that is how those people who disliked and didn’t want neither one decided which candidate was the lesser of two evils and voted for the lesser evil which happened to be Trump in 2016 over the more evil Clinton and happened to be Biden as the lesser of two evils over Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/national/president

National Results 2020 President exit polls.

See National Results 2020 President exit polls.

www.cnn.com

You can congratulate yourself all you want to for 'fighting the system'. You're going about it the wrong way, and you're playing into the fascist's hands by doing that.