Vegas Shooter Report is In[W:96]

[calamity]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

You missed his point. The hyphen wasn't randomly placed.

If no one had ever sneaked crates of guns into a hotel and opened fire on the crowd below, what data would there have been that an exercise in predictive analytics could have used to have predicted this attack?

Depends on what other actions were taken besides stalking venues with lots of people and booking hotel rooms with a good vantage point over the crowd below.

 

[Rucker61]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Depends on what other actions were taken besides stalking venues with lots of people and booking hotel rooms with a good vantage point over the crowd below.

That's not predictive analytics - that behavior had never led to a mass shooting before. There's nothing to link the behaviors.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

We have more freedom than they do.

Freedom to b shot in math class is no freedom

 

[Into the Night]

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So....I am pointing out quite a stark difference between the US and the UK that someone in another post was attempting to compare and draw similarities between. Thus I was simply putting forth a number of statistics relating to Britain and their crime rates to support my opinion and argument. It is called evidence and supporting your claim, far from cherry picking the UK.

No one was attempting to draw similarities between the UK and the US, except 'vegas giants', who suddenly shifted to this comparison as part of a contextomy, trying to redirect away from the argument he can't counter.

Then YOU picked up on it and fixated yourself on it. To what end? Who cares?

 

[Into the Night]

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I said regulating.

That's the problem. Guns are not regulated. Remember, 'regulated' means to make regular, or to remove patchwork laws.

Congress is bound by the Constitution of the United States to enforce that Constitution. So is the President. That includes the 2nd amendment, which applies to all States.

What we need is for Congress to regulate guns. That means to require the States to give up their patchwork gun laws. From there, there is only one overriding law. Congress shall not infringe on the right of the State to form a militia, nor the right of the people to bear arms.


This is what Trump wants to do. It will mean one can carry their gun from State to State without having separate concealed weapons permits from each State or 'reciprocal' State, all guns will be legal no matter how many rounds their magazines may hold, etc.

 

[vegas giants]

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No one was attempting to draw similarities between the UK and the US, except 'vegas giants', who suddenly shifted to this comparison as part of a contextomy, trying to redirect away from the argument he can't counter.

Then YOU picked up on it and fixated yourself on it. To what end? Who cares?

Oh please. Your argument was dismissed long ago for lack of evidence

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

That's the problem. Guns are not regulated. Remember, 'regulated' means to make regular, or to remove patchwork laws.

Congress is bound by the Constitution of the United States to enforce that Constitution. So is the President. That includes the 2nd amendment, which applies to all States.

What we need is for Congress to regulate guns. That means to require the States to give up their patchwork gun laws. From there, there is only one overriding law. Congress shall not infringe on the right of the State to form a militia, nor the right of the people to bear arms.


This is what Trump wants to do.

Never gonna happen. Congress can make gun laws based on the commerce clause. See Wickard

 

[Howard the Duck]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

That's the problem. Guns are not regulated. Remember, 'regulated' means to make regular, or to remove patchwork laws.

Congress is bound by the Constitution of the United States to enforce that Constitution. So is the President. That includes the 2nd amendment, which applies to all States.

What we need is for Congress to regulate guns. That means to require the States to give up their patchwork gun laws. From there, there is only one overriding law. Congress shall not infringe on the right of the State to form a militia, nor the right of the people to bear arms.


This is what Trump wants to do. It will mean one can carry their gun from State to State without having separate concealed weapons permits from each State or 'reciprocal' State, all guns will be legal no matter how many rounds their magazines may hold, etc.

We'll see.

Protip: Don't follow Donald Trump for legal advice.

 

[Into the Night]

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but a lower intentional death rate than Finland, Japan or South Korea. Or Russia. All of those have those "strict" gun laws you want so badly.

Also a lower intentional death rate than Brazil, Mexico, Nicaragua, etc. all AGAIN with 'strict' gun laws he wants so badly.

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Freedom to b shot in math class is no freedom

Actually, it is. Freedom to shoot back is a freedom also.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Also a lower intentional death rate than Brazil, Mexico, Nicaragua, etc. all AGAIN with 'strict' gun laws he wants so badly.

Countries that have high levels of corruption and no rule of law. Their laws on on paper only. How about you compare us to Yemen again? LOL

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Actually, it is. Freedom to shoot back is a freedom also.

I will let all the kids know they need to be armed at all times. Perhaps you are a proponent of the Kinderguardians program?

 

[Into the Night]

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Oh please. Your argument was dismissed long ago for lack of evidence

Argument of the stone. I presented evidence and the source of that evidence to you. Go do your homework.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Argument of the stone. I presented evidence and the source of that evidence to you. Go do your homework.

You did not present evidence. You presented some initials after your post.


Dismissed for lack of evidence

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Never gonna happen. Congress can make gun laws based on the commerce clause. See Wickard

The 'commerce clause' is not a power of the federal government. This has already been explained to you. The 'commerce clause' does not cancel the remainder of the Constitution.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

The 'commerce clause' is not a power of the federal government. This has already been explained to you. The 'commerce clause' does not cancel the remainder of the Constitution.

Congress has the power to regulate commerce between the states. This is a fact. Wickard decided that includes intra and interstate commerce. Sorry....you lost this one long before you were born

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

We'll see.

Protip: Don't follow Donald Trump for legal advice.

Indeed we will.

Why would I follow Trump for legal advice?? He is not a lawyer.

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Countries that have high levels of corruption and no rule of law. Their laws on on paper only. How about you compare us to Yemen again? LOL

Funny how you noticed that. Here in the United States we have a rule of law. It's called the Constitution of the United States. It's also the constitution of the various States. Yet you want to ignore those, just as you are accusing these countries of doing.

We live in a federated republic, dude. You don't any any authority to change the Constitution.

 

[jimbo]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

not if they are illegitimate

They aren't.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Funny how you noticed that. Here in the United States we have a rule of law. It's called the Constitution of the United States. It's also the constitution of the various States. Yet you want to ignore those, just as you are accusing these countries of doing.

We live in a federated republic, dude. You don't any any authority to change the Constitution.

Oh we have lots more laws than just the constitution. That is just the foundation for our laws. We also have lots of gun laws and until they are ruled unconstitutional they are the law of the land.

Better get used to it. LOL

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

I will let all the kids know they need to be armed at all times. Perhaps you are a proponent of the Kinderguardians program?

Nah. They don't. School shootings are actually quite rare. Most of those that do happen can easily be stopped simply by putting locks on doors to classrooms that a teacher can throw without using a key, and using steel doors (already done in some schools). In less than 10 minutes, it will be over, and the shooter will quite probably be dead, either from a self inflicted wound, or by a good guy with a gun. Allowing teachers to carry is also an effective method of stopping a shooter before they get very far.

You really are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

Kids really are very safe at school.

 

[Into the Night]

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Congress has the power to regulate commerce between the states. This is a fact. Wickard decided that includes intra and interstate commerce. Sorry....you lost this one long before you were born

No court has the authority to change the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

You did not present evidence. You presented some initials after your post.


Dismissed for lack of evidence

Use this wonderful technology to decode the initials I gave you.

It's called 'g o o g l e'.

 

[Into the Night]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Oh we have lots more laws than just the constitution. That is just the foundation for our laws. We also have lots of gun laws and until they are ruled unconstitutional they are the law of the land.

Better get used to it. LOL

Congress exceeded their authority in passing these laws.
So did the State legislatures.

The dumber ones are already ignored by many gun owners. Most sheriffs won't enforce them. They don't want to get shot, and they support an armed population.

No law can change the Constitution. Congress does not have authority to change the Constitution. Only the States have that authority. State legislatures do not have the authority to change their State constitution. Only the people of that State have that authority.

 

[vegas giants]

Re: Vegas Shooter Report is In

Use this wonderful technology to decode the initials I gave you.

It's called 'g o o g l e'.

I did. It came back to a Certified Financial Planners site. This is why people who have an actual article use links.

Dismissed for lack of evidence