Vaccinated/Unvaccinated--Where They Get Their News

[jpn]

False. not every skeptic died, not by a long shot. But if you libs are so concerned about the health of others, why not try being honest next time and allow people with questions to be heard.

We libs are concerned enough to actually pass laws so people can get health insurance. So there's that.

People with "questions" were heard all over the place. Do you think DeSantis didn't hear in Florida?

Despite conservatives' nonstop gnashing of their teeth because they don't dominate all information outlets everywhere with their misinformation, it still, somehow, gets out. To the detriment of the nation.

 

[jpn]

I believe the required public debate for all medications at the FDA hearing to approve the vax was also skipped.

If memory serves, there was a national health emergency occurring at the time. I wonder how many lives were saved as a result of the expedited approval process?

 

[Schweddy]

How post after post take issue with the greatest infectious disease specialists on earth I find sadly fascinating.

As @Fletch pointed out, some of the other greatest infection disease specialists were censored and sanctioned. Why?

I personally find that scary and gives additional credence to asking questions.

It is most definitely a moral obligation.

How? Vaxxed can distribute the viral load like the unvaxxed. Now the argument is to get vaxxed to keep oneself out of the hospital.

Since it's about each individual now, how is that individual choice a moral obligation in any form or fashion?

 

[jpn]

Tucker can go jump in a lake. I've met him personally at a Ron Paul rally and he is a complete joke on many levels.

If you recall, you posted that "We are no longer allowed to question or pursue knowledge..."

Obviously, "we" are allowed to question. Peddlers of poisonous misinformation are free to rant to their hearts' content.

Writing that "we are no longer allowed to call out liars" would be just as accurate as what you wrote.

I'm not encumbered at all. I believe in challenging science. That is what science is all about.

That's a bit like someone with no musical training is questioning Mozart. You can do it, but you sound kind of pathetic.

As for "ethics", there is no moral obligation here. Us vaxxed can spread it just like the unvaxxed. There is no real evidence beyond an essay and that proves thousands of lives saved or keeps people out of the hospital.

Yeah, I had gone back and changed "ethics" to "your concerns about intellectual freedom."

 

[Schweddy]

Despite conservatives' nonstop gnashing of their teeth because they don't dominate all information outlets everywhere with their misinformation, it still, somehow, gets out. To the detriment of the nation.

Squashing discussion and censoring views that one does not agree with (liberal or conservative) is to the detriment of the nation.

A mentally healthy society communicates in free form. As always, somewhere in the middle is the truth.

 

[noonereal]

As @Fletch pointed out, some of the other greatest infection disease specialists were censored and sanctioned. Why?

I personally find that scary and gives additional credence to asking questions.


How? Vaxxed can distribute the viral load like the unvaxxed. Now the argument is to get vaxxed to keep oneself out of the hospital.

Since it's about each individual now, how is that individual choice a moral obligation in any form or fashion?

I knew your first statement was coming. It is the most common logical fallacy here. There is always someone, somewhere who places bias above science no matter their title or education
You should be thankful a handful of extremists are fairly considered and that a proponderance of the science marches on not concerned about non existent conspiracies.

If the vaccine does not work, along with masks and distancing, how did NYC come back from a very scary place? Why is China not suffering an estimated 9,000 deaths a day we at 500?

You don't deliver the same viral load if vaxed if you do get sick and since your body rids the virus sooner, less people are infected by you.

So the vax saves lives by cutting infection and transmission.

It is wholly immoral and or ignorant to refuse the vaccine, IMHO

I can find no justification for people to not consider their neighbor. None. Its aweful.

 

[noonereal]

Squashing discussion and censoring views that one does not agree with (liberal or conservative) is to the detriment of the nation.

A mentally healthy society communicates in free form. As always, somewhere in the middle is the truth.

There is a time and place for considered debate.
In this case
Once all debate by a science organization has concluded we need to proceed with implimentation of the findings.

Lying for political gain does not advance anything for society although it can help those causing the confusion.

 

[Schweddy]

If you recall, you posted that "We are no longer allowed to question or pursue knowledge..."

Obviously, "we" are allowed to question. Peddlers of poisonous misinformation are free to rant to their hearts' content.

Writing that "we are no longer allowed to call out liars" would be just as accurate as what you wrote.

Touche' - fair retort.

The idea of who gets to define "misinformation" just seems silly to me.

That's a bit like someone with no musical training is questioning Mozart. You can do it, but you sound kind of pathetic.

I see your point, but disagree that it's a good analogy. In the same context saying Beethoven's music shouldn't be shared because he was deaf would also be kinda pathetic.

 

[jpn]

How? Vaxxed can distribute the viral load like the unvaxxed. Now the argument is to get vaxxed to keep oneself out of the hospital.
Since it's about each individual now, how is that individual choice a moral obligation in any form or fashion?

Oh FFS. Dealing with the scientifically illiterate...

Effectiveness of Bivalent mRNA Vaccines in Preventing ..

This report describes the vaccine effectiveness of an updated ..

www.cdc.gov

 

[jpn]

The idea of who gets to define "misinformation" just seems silly to me.

That works to the advantage of snake oil salesmen everywhere.

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Vaccinated/Unvaccinated:
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News Sources by Political Party:
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Pretty interesting to see how similar the two graphs are.

Well it's looking like REAL Science and facts are proving that the Vaxx was not so good for a lot of people !
For all educated people who can THINK they would have realized that once Fauci et al stated Natural immunity is
not just as good or Better, red flags should have gone off !



And that Fauci was pushing Propaganda on the Left !

 

[jpn]

QAnon Star Who Said Only ‘Idiots’ Get Vax Dies of COVID​

Cirsten Weldon told her fans not to get vaccinated and wanted Dr. Anthony Fauci executed. She just died of COVID.
Cirsten Weldon had amassed tens of thousands of followers across right-wing social media networks by promoting the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy under the screenname “CirstenW.”

Can politics kill you? Research says the answer increasingly is yes.​

In one study, researchers concluded that people living in more conservative parts of the United States disproportionately bore the burden of illness and death linked to covid-19. The other, which looked at health outcomes more broadly, found that the more conservative a state’s policies, the shorter the lives of working-age people.

 

[Lursa]

Questioning is at the very heart of science. But, unfortunately for ideologues, those questions have to be based on observation, not beliefs.

People who raise questions about things they know nothing about because of politics or ideologies are fools.

This was prescient for this era:

“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”― Issac Asimov​

 

[NoMoreDems-Reps]

Oh FFS. Dealing with the scientifically illiterate...

Effectiveness of Bivalent mRNA Vaccines in Preventing ..

This report describes the vaccine effectiveness of an updated ..

www.cdc.gov

Look in the mirror !

Just think about the basics.
A Vaccine (before 2019-ish) was defined as : Getting a Virus killing it off to about 95% dead, then injecting that
almost dead virus in to people so "OUR IMMUNESYSTEMS can learn to fight it!

Now after Fauci and friends are getting $2K a pop for the Vaxx, they tell you that a Vaccine is also an
"EXPERIMENTAL Gene Therapy" to implant a Spike Protein, and that Natural immunity is no good ?

They told all the Gaslighted people that wearing a Mask will stop Covid ! But with Masks you can still smell
stuff like perfumes ect...
A Virus Molecule is much Smaller than a Pheromone Molecule ! ... Go walk by some wearing purfume with 3 Fauci Masks on !
Or (H2S) rotten egg smell !

Now the guy who invented mRNA is also saying that a lot of what the CDC and Fauci is telling you make no sense!

“Government Is Not Being Transparent”: mRNA Technology Inventor Deviates from CDC, Sounds Alarm on Risks of COVID-19 Vaccines

Dr. Robert Malone, inventor of mRNA technology, sounded the alarm on the potential risks of experimental “vaccines” on young people, and Big Tech has punished him for it ...

thenewamerican.com

When people lie to you, you should not trust them ....
Even if they tell you they are Science!