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US Special Forces Deploy To Mexico For "Training" Mission Following Spy Plane SIGINT Operations

Did you not read the article?

A bunch of American military personnel blundered into a fuel storage area....gee, you know, a prime sabotage target....and Mexico arresting them was treated as an “outrage”.
 
The US was occupying Veracruz before Villa launched his raids into the US which means you going “we took their main port!” in reaction to the raids rather laughable.

Uh...no, the last time the US invaded Mexico would still be the expedition that failed to catch Villa. The US invaded Veracruz because a bunch of American sailors wandered into a fuel storage area and America demanded an apology and twenty one gun salute for the Mexicans daring to arrest them.

Was the US fighting in Fallujah in 2004 a different invasion from when we invaded Iraq in 2003? Mexico was invaded and occupied by the US from 1914 to 1924. The fact that there was a different operation during that invasion doesn’t make it a separate invasion.
 
Was the US fighting in Fallujah in 2004 a different invasion from when we invaded Iraq in 2003? Mexico was invaded and occupied by the US from 1914 to 1924. The fact that there was a different operation during that invasion doesn’t make it a separate invasion.
Except for the obvious difference that the US was fighting many of Saddam’s former troops who’d joined the insurgency, while Villa’s troops and the Mexican forces in Veracruz were on completely different sides.

No it wasn’t. The US held, like, the one port city. That’s rather different than saying it “occupied Mexico” during that period. It’s still imperialism, but on a different scale.
 
Except for the obvious difference that the US was fighting many of Saddam’s former troops who’d joined the insurgency, while Villa’s troops and the Mexican forces in Veracruz were on completely different sides.

No it wasn’t. The US held, like, the one port city. That’s rather different than saying it “occupied Mexico” during that period. It’s still imperialism, but on a different scale.

How much of a country needs to be occupied for an invasion to count as an invasion?
 
How much of a country needs to be occupied for an invasion to count as an invasion?
For it to count as the country being occupied, the invaders usually have to take more than just one city.

None of which changes the fact the Veracruz invasion was before and distinct to the invasion seeking to take out Villa.
 
For it to count as the country being occupied, the invaders usually have to take more than just one city.

None of which changes the fact the Veracruz invasion was before and distinct to the invasion seeking to take out Villa.


Please share where that rule is written.
 
LMAO.... Those who made jokes of the SIGINT plane flying arcs off Cabo and that there would be no boots on the ground need to speak up.

I was right again. I might catch up with Trump in that department.

Green Berets coming to a cartel near you.

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I would suggest you listen to this interview with Pierre Rousini, who was convicted under the federal drug kingpin statute and spent 26 years in federal prison but is now a free man. Very insightful. For example, he notes that the U.S. lost to a bunch of illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan, and they didn’t have U.S.-trained special operators leading their paramilitaries, the support of corrupt government officials, 1.5 million potential American hostages, and hundreds of billions of dollars in American investment that they could blow up with the large quantities of gasoline and C4 in their possession. So before these Ivy League-educated government idiots who like sending our boys into harms way send them to Mexico with guns blazing, we need to think this through very carefully. He suggests doing a “deal” to get the cartels to stop trafficking fentanyl into the United States, because if we try taking them out with the U.S. military we may end up magnifying the problem.

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I would suggest you listen to this interview with Pierre Rousini, who was convicted under the federal drug kingpin statute and spent 26 years in federal prison but is now a free man. Very insightful. For example, he notes that the U.S. lost to a bunch of illiterate goat herders in Afghanistan, and they didn’t have U.S.-trained special operators leading their paramilitaries, the support of corrupt government officials, 1.5 million potential American hostages, and hundreds of billions of dollars in American investment that they could blow up with the large quantities of gasoline and C4 in their possession. So before these Ivy League-educated government idiots who like sending our boys into harms way send them to Mexico with guns blazing, we need to think this through very carefully. He suggests doing a “deal” to get the cartels to stop trafficking fentanyl into the United States, because if we try taking them out with the U.S. military we may end up magnifying the problem.

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No. I prefer to see our special forces wipe the floor with the keystone cartel.

They are a JV Team.
 
No. I prefer to see our special forces wipe the floor with the keystone cartel.

They are a JV Team.

Yours is the sort of hubris that will get Americans killed. The largest concentration of American expats in Mexico is in Guadalajara, Jalisco, which happens to be where one of the most violent Mexican cartels, the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, is headquartered. What you don’t seem to understand is these aren’t illiterate goat herders we’d be fighting. These cartels have recruited men that we trained! The CJNG’s military wing is allegedly headed by former U.S. special operators (Navy SEALs and Delta Force). They are extremely violent, and have access to virtually unlimited resources. (That’s why they can hire a trained army and recruit from among the best soldiers on the planet from numerous countries, including the USA.) One of the Sinaloa Cartel’s five U.S. distribution hubs is in Fayetteville, North Carolina, where the U.S. Army Special Operations Command is headquartered. If we can’t get rid of these people operating under the nose of Delta Force in North Carolina, what makes you think we can eliminate them 1,300 miles from the U.S. border surrounded by 88,000 American hostages in Jalisco or in the mountains surrounding Culiacan, Sinaloa?

To show you how dumb we are, we channeled billions of dollars in aid to combat the cartels through Mexico’s former Secretary of Public Security (the Mexican equivalent of the Director of the FBI), who was under the thumb of the Sinaloa Cartel and is now doing a 38-year stretch in a U.S. prison. Basically, we helped a man under the control of one cartel take out his patron’s opponents. It’s like something straight out of Queen of the South. Allegations of corruption extend to at least the last two Mexican presidents prior to the current one, Claudia Sheinbaum. Even if she isn’t corrupt, you can bet that people under her are or soon will be. The Taliban never had that advantage, and recall that they killed thousands of Americans, including some of the best special forces soldiers on Earth. We lost 30 Americans, including 22 SEALs, in a single incident in which the goat herders shot down a CH-47 Chinook using an RPG. The cartels won’t be using RPGs. They have SAMs and MANPADs. It’s easy to start a war, not so easy to exit one to the point where you can say, “Mission accomplished!” Talk about a forever war. Get ready.
 
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No. I prefer to see our special forces wipe the floor with the keystone cartel.

They are a JV Team.
If that were true the Mexican military would have destroyed them years ago.

In reality many of the cartel gunmen are former military themselves, and those who don’t have the training compensate with utter ruthlessness.
 
If that were true the Mexican military would have destroyed them years ago.
They are not even JV worthy. But more of a high school team.
 
They are not even JV worthy. But more of a high school team.
As mentioned, if that were true the cartels would have been wiped out years ago.

Instead they’ve been around ten times as long as the Confederacy was 😂
 
As mentioned, if that were true the cartels would have been wiped out years ago.

Instead they’ve been around ten times as long as the Confederacy was 😂
They have no oppostion. The Mexian Army is Bush League.
 
They have no oppostion. The Mexian Army is Bush League.
So close! That’s actually the Confederacy, which fought one war to defend slavery and got its ass kicked.
 
So close! That’s actually the Confederacy, which fought one war to defend slavery and got its ass kicked.
The Mexican Army could never meet the standard of the U.S. Army. You are familiar with military standards right? 😉
 
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