Fallenangel
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BBC News - US and Russia agree Syria chemical weapons deal in Geneva
"Mr Kerry said inspectors must be on the ground by November, and that the stockpiles should be removed or destroyed by mid-2014.
The six points outlined by Mr Kerry were:
1. The amount and type of chemical weapons must be agreed and "rapidly" placed under international control
2. Syria must submit within one week a comprehensive listing of its stockpiles
3. Extraordinary procedures under the Chemical Weapons Convention will allow "expeditious destruction"
4. Syria must give inspectors "immediate, unfettered access" to all sites
5. All chemical weapons must be destroyed, including the possibility of removing weapons from Syrian territory
6. UN will provide logistical support, and compliance would be enforced under Chapter VII"
So...they have set the rules the game, meanwhile the war in Syria will go on.
Cheers,
Fallen.
More like this is the platform from which Syria and Assad will for some reason be found guilty and attacked later on. Buying time until the opposition and Russia clears away a bit I guess.
Doubt it.
Cheers,
Fallen.
More like this is the platform from which Syria and Assad will for some reason be found guilty and attacked later on. Buying time until the opposition and Russia clears away a bit I guess.
Syria is like Bosnia I think. It takes a while longer to crunch all the variables prior to strikes and liberation.
You doubt it but what if some of these inspectors find other clues that hint other forms of WMD's?
BBC News - US and Russia agree Syria chemical weapons deal in Geneva
"Mr Kerry said inspectors must be on the ground by November, and that the stockpiles should be removed or destroyed by mid-2014.
The six points outlined by Mr Kerry were:
1. The amount and type of chemical weapons must be agreed and "rapidly" placed under international control
2. Syria must submit within one week a comprehensive listing of its stockpiles
3. Extraordinary procedures under the Chemical Weapons Convention will allow "expeditious destruction"
4. Syria must give inspectors "immediate, unfettered access" to all sites
5. All chemical weapons must be destroyed, including the possibility of removing weapons from Syrian territory
6. UN will provide logistical support, and compliance would be enforced under Chapter VII"
So...they have set the rules the game, meanwhile the war in Syria will go on.
Cheers,
Fallen.
I see where you're coming from DDD. I'm hoping we will end up with a president who will be anti-war for a change.Syria is like Bosnia I think. It takes a while longer to crunch all the variables prior to strikes and liberation.
You doubt it but what if some of these inspectors find other clues that hint other forms of WMD's?
The bottom line is the UN inspectors and CW destruction time line for Syria allows Assad another 9 or 10 months (minimum) for business as ususal, then things will be evaluated/negotiated again. A great victory for team Obama?
Absolutely right! So, nothing changes for at least a year, Russia, Iran and Syria continue doing what they are doing and Obama doesn't have to make a decision (wiping his brow). Some will see this as a win-win. I see it as a lose-lose.
More like this is the platform from which Syria and Assad will for some reason be found guilty and attacked later on. Buying time until the opposition and Russia clears away a bit I guess.
BBC News - US and Russia agree Syria chemical weapons deal in Geneva
"Mr Kerry said inspectors must be on the ground by November, and that the stockpiles should be removed or destroyed by mid-2014.
The six points outlined by Mr Kerry were:
1. The amount and type of chemical weapons must be agreed and "rapidly" placed under international control
2. Syria must submit within one week a comprehensive listing of its stockpiles
3. Extraordinary procedures under the Chemical Weapons Convention will allow "expeditious destruction"
4. Syria must give inspectors "immediate, unfettered access" to all sites
5. All chemical weapons must be destroyed, including the possibility of removing weapons from Syrian territory
6. UN will provide logistical support, and compliance would be enforced under Chapter VII"
So...they have set the rules the game, meanwhile the war in Syria will go on.
Cheers,
Fallen.
BBC News - US and Russia agree Syria chemical weapons deal in Geneva
"Mr Kerry said inspectors must be on the ground by November, and that the stockpiles should be removed or destroyed by mid-2014.
The six points outlined by Mr Kerry were:
1. The amount and type of chemical weapons must be agreed and "rapidly" placed under international control
2. Syria must submit within one week a comprehensive listing of its stockpiles
3. Extraordinary procedures under the Chemical Weapons Convention will allow "expeditious destruction"
4. Syria must give inspectors "immediate, unfettered access" to all sites
5. All chemical weapons must be destroyed, including the possibility of removing weapons from Syrian territory
6. UN will provide logistical support, and compliance would be enforced under Chapter VII"
So...they have set the rules the game, meanwhile the war in Syria will go on.
Cheers,
Fallen.
The situation is quite different with Syria, mostly because of the apparent opinion change in the Western world regarding "freedom wars".
I am not an expert on disposal of chem. weapons, but I doubt that these inspectors would have the ability and the carte blanche to investigate for other WMDs.
Fallen.
This is good news. Hopefully, efforts will be made to initiate a ceasefire in the near-term. A near-term deal to block arms shipments to the warring parties would also be helpful, but given that so many outside parties are vested in aiding one or the other side, that deal is not likely, even as it could reduce the intensity of the conflict.
I see where you're coming from DDD. I'm hoping we will end up with a president who will be anti-war for a change.
Yep. There are parts of Syria the government does not control and I am willing to bet there are people in Syria with chemical weapons that the government does not control as well, but the government will be blamed.
Why should these inspectors be experts for chems and no other WMD's?
Their professional expertise is irrelevant (sorry if that is what you understood from my post).
What is relevant is the mandate they would be given and their ability to enforce this mandate and their own authority on the ground.
Fallen.
LOL at this. "3. Extraordinary procedures under the Chemical Weapons Convention will allow "expeditious destruction"."
Yes siree bob, get rid of all evidence of where the stuff came from to begin with. And have all the players agree to it. No way Kerry wants any evidence on display about the origin of the weapons.
If they happen to find clues for other WMD's you suppose they should ignore them?
The bottom line is the UN inspectors and CW destruction time line for Syria allows Assad another 9 or 10 months (minimum) for business as ususal, then things will be evaluated/negotiated again. A great victory for team Obama?
Never said that, but their mandate would most probably be different and limited - they would not come to investigate in search of various kinds of WMDs, but to monitor and inspect the already listed and presented chemical storage sites.
Fallen.
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