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I know quite a few older liberals and youngish progressives, and none of them like Obama.
Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.
So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.
How much effect will Obama have?
Even if he does, I don’t see the Bernie bro’s going over to the democrat establishment candidate after hosing them yet again. No way.What would help too, is if Bernie campaigns for Biden in a way that brings all of Bernie's followers to the Biden camp.
I don't see the miserable, little **** doing that though.
Then you likely dont know a lot of people. I know plenty who like Obama far more than either current candidate.I know quite a few older liberals and youngish progressives, and none of them like Obama.
This will be about getting voters out to the voting booths or sending in their ballots, not really getting new voters.Neither Bernie nor Obama are going to help much with the 'progressives'. Obama has mass appeal within the party, but he will be preaching to people that are already committed to the party, not gaining new voters. Biden has tried running on the Obiden-Bama platform and it has bit him in the ass on illegal immigration and deportation, so I dont know how much help that will offer. Sure...Obama is still black-ish, but I believe it will be a hard sell for Obama to say vote for Joe after all...look at all the really wonderful things I did for black Americans.
In short...not much.
I know quite a few older liberals and youngish progressives
Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.
So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.
How much effect will Obama have?
How many (outside of those who are NeverTrumpers) yearn for those good old Obama days? I think that Obama will increase 'minority' voter turnout, but that alone is unlikely to put Joe "where am I?" Biden in the White House. IMHO, the 2020 POTUS election will depend on the US economy much as it normally does - if it sucks then out goes the incumbent POTUS, if it is OK or improving then the incumbent POTUS gets another term.
Neither Bernie nor Obama are going to help much with the 'progressives'. Obama has mass appeal within the party, but he will be preaching to people that are already committed to the party, not gaining new voters. Biden has tried running on the Obiden-Bama platform and it has bit him in the ass on illegal immigration and deportation, so I dont know how much help that will offer. Sure...Obama is still black-ish, but I believe it will be a hard sell for Obama to say vote for Joe after all...look at all the really wonderful things I did for black Americans.
In short...not much.
Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.
So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.
How much effect will Obama have?
Obama oratory skills dwarf those of both Trump and Biden.
So from the 20 there is now 1. Obama can now campaign without showing favoritism to any one candidate.
How much effect will Obama have?
A lot of the Bernie voters are unhappy with the status quo and just want more disruption and chaos (they haven't had enough yet, apparently, with 4 years of Trump). If they can't have Bernie, and if Bernie doesn't throw his full weight behind Biden, more of them will vote for Trump.
Quote Originally Posted by ataraxia View Post
A lot of the Bernie voters are unhappy with the status quo and just want more disruption and chaos (they haven't had enough yet, apparently, with 4 years of Trump). If they can't have Bernie, and if Bernie doesn't throw his full weight behind Biden, more of them will vote for Trump.
Eh, I don't see that. More likely they still stay home.
Bernie Sanders supporters switched their allegiance to Donald Trump in large enough numbers last November to sway the election for the real estate billionaire, according to an analysis of voter data released Tuesday by the blog Political Wire. Since Trump's shock victory over Hillary Clinton, much discussion has focused on the degree to which passionate Sanders supporters' refusal to embrace Clinton led to the Republican winding up in the White House.
According to the analysis of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, fewer than 80 percent of those who voted for Sanders, an independent, in the Democratic primary did the same for Clinton when she faced off against Trump a few months later. What's more, 12 percent of those who backed Sanders actually cast a vote for Trump.
Bernie Sanders Voters Helped Trump Win and Here's Proof
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