UN Says Disagreeing With Feminists Should Be Considered To Save Their Feelings

[Carjosse]

Right to security of person? What is that? No. How do you violate someone's rights with words?

It is a legal concept that means you have a right to safety of your person essentially, essentially if someones threatens you to the point where you fear for your safety they violate your right to security of person. Not to mention it is essentially a declaration that they plan to commit an act of violence against you.

 

[Ancient Herald]

It's not arbitrary. It's a matter of intellectual discourse. The further from the chain of events someone and their writing/speech/video is, the less use they are. Furthermore, when someone uses a tertiary source with no actual linkages to the materials referred to, its usefulness is almost entirely obliterated.

Very well then, there are both strengths and weakness to intellectual discourse.

I will try to honor your request.

Here is the report written by the UN after the speech was given in PDF format. It is 70 pages long. I have not read it yet, I plan to, but legal documents like these are very hard for me to read.

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Here is another article for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3magd0/un_says_cyber_violence_is_equivalent_to_physical/

Note:

The U.N. defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts.” The report notes that cyber violence is an extension of that definition, that includes acts like trolling, hacking, spamming, and harassment.

Here is the full two hour video of the event:


UN Live United Nations Web TV - Search Results for "Violence" - Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka (UN Women) at the Launch of the Broadband Working Group on Gender Report

I hope that satisfies your intellectualism.

 

[Fiddytree]

Did you ever notice how most women don't become feminists until they go to college?

This sentence is unfortunately begging for one of the most cliched of Marxist tropes (false consciousness). I won't really go there though.

I wouldn't say that's entirely the case anymore. Pop-feminist theory has more or less filtered down to the Buzzfeed level. Whether that's a blessing or a curse is kind of interesting, because on one hand "pop" anything has tended to negate some of the more ludicrous eccentricities of the academy, yet it also allows for ludicrous eccentricities to occur because "popular" anything doesn't necessarily mean the most careful of readers will spread the message to the masses.

 

[Carjosse]

Did you ever notice how most women don't become feminists until they go to college? I find that most young women that call themselves feminists have bought into the bull**** and don't really know wtf is going on.

I find most people adopt feminism very early in their lives, just that college is usually the time people become more politically aware and become aware of the label.

 

[Henrin]

I find most people adopt feminism very early in their lives, just that college is usually the time people become more politically aware.

Really? So you come across little girls that are feminists? I have to say I have never meet a young woman before college age that called herself a feminist. I also haven't come across many women that didn't go to college that consider them a feminist either.

 

[Ancient Herald]

It's not arbitrary. It's a matter of intellectual discourse. The further from the chain of events someone and their writing/speech/video is, the less use they are. Furthermore, when someone uses a tertiary source with no actual linkages to the materials referred to, its usefulness is almost entirely obliterated.

Very well then, there are both strengths and weakness to intellectual discourse.

I will try to honor your request.

Here is the report written by the UN after the speech was given in PDF format. It is 70 pages long. I have not read it yet, I plan to, but legal documents like these are very hard for me to read.

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Here is another article for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3magd0/un_says_cyber_violence_is_equivalent_to_physical/

Note:

The U.N. defines violence against women as “any act of gender-based violence that results in, or is likely to result in, physical, sexual or psychological harm or suffering to women, including threats of such acts.” The report notes that cyber violence is an extension of that definition, that includes acts like trolling, hacking, spamming, and harassment.

Here is the full two hour video of the event. It's from the UN Web TV website itself.


UN Live United Nations Web TV - Search Results for "Violence" - Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka (UN Women) at the Launch of the Broadband Working Group on Gender Report

I hope that satisfies your intellectualism.

For the record, I am not an intellectual. But I do try to be reasonable, objective, and base my conclusions on facts and evidence.

 

[Ancient Herald]

Really? So you come across little girls that are feminists? I have to say I have never meet a young woman before college age that called herself a feminist.

I have a couple of nieces, one ten, and the other about sixteen , who call themselves feminists.

And I can't stand them at all for it.

 

[Carjosse]

Very well then, there are both strengths and weakness to intellectual discourse.

I will try to honor your request.

Here is the report written by the UN after the speech was given in PDF format. It is 70 pages long. I have not read it yet, I plan to, but legal documents like these are very hard for me to read.

http://www.broadbandcommission.org/Documents/reports/bb-wg-gender-report2015.pdf

Here is another article for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3magd0/un_says_cyber_violence_is_equivalent_to_physical/

Note:


Here is the full two hour video of the event:


UN Live United Nations Web TV - Search Results for "Violence" - Phumzile Mlambo-Ngcuka (UN Women) at the Launch of the Broadband Working Group on Gender Report

I hope that satisfies your intellectualism.

It is actually written in plain English, it is the actual document these articles are quoting and you will find that what these articles and videos are saying is pure fabrication.

 

[Carjosse]

I'm scanning it now, so all commentaries are to have that kept in mind. However, I do have some concerns. While it is nowhere near as reprehensible as anything else would imply, it does raise some issues. In particular, it seeks greater recognition to act on online threats and harassment for women. Perhaps that is all well and fine, given how technology has been able to spread terror so much more easily, however, there is a dearth of protections for anyone at all. Normally legal protections in our country (you can speak for yours and your province) seek to provide protections for the broadest base of people first and then when a group within the generalized whole is incredibly targeted despite or because of neglect of existing protections, then additional protections are sought to address treatment gaps. Given the incredible amount of controversy and harm that has spread across sex, age, nationality, creed, and so on, it would perhaps be best to argue for new pieces of legislation which seek to protect the whole of the populace from online threats and harassment. Now, the purview of the report is largely sex and gender-specific and thus it would be not of much surprise to find a report which is similarly narrow in scope, however, the U.N. can also have a bit more coordination in its efforts all the same.

Well the recommendations they claim are general and apply to everyone like saying companies and governments need to cooperate more to enforce laws on general harassment and threats online not specifically gender related harassment, though some are made specifically towards women.

 

[Serenity]

You tell'em girl!

There is as much chance he is female as there is that I am Batman.

 

[Bodi]

Those poor straight white males. Such victims. Won't anyone help them?!

Isn't there a systematic issue of sexism in America that you should be educating us on?

 

[Carjosse]

Really? So you come across little girls that are feminists? I have to say I have never meet a young woman before college age that called herself a feminist. I also haven't come across many women that didn't go to college that consider them a feminist either.

Generally children support the idea of gender equality so yes. Like I said earlier it is because university is where people usually become politically aware and learn of the label.

 

[Gina]

I would say men face significantly less bias and double standards. Then I think it is rather odd that I have never met a feminist that supports misandry even those that are part of the feminist gender advocacy group at my university and most people I know are feminists whether they adopt the title or not. Being a feminist means you support gender equality.

Thank you. That cannot be said enough.

 

[Henrin]

This sentence is unfortunately begging for one of the most cliched of Marxist tropes (false consciousness). I won't really go there though.

Cultural Marxism? I really don't think it is false to suggest that elements of Cultural Marxism are becoming more and more prevalent in society. I know feminism gets a lot of crap over it, but it's really a problem everyone on the left seems to have to some degree.

I wouldn't say that's entirely the case anymore. Pop-feminist theory has more or less filtered down to the Buzzfeed level. Whether that's a blessing or a curse is kind of interesting, because on one hand "pop" anything has tended to negate some of the more ludicrous eccentricities of the academy, yet it also allows for ludicrous eccentricities to occur because "popular" anything doesn't necessarily mean the most careful of readers will spread the message to the masses.

Interesting. I guess I have been out of the feminist brainwashing loop for too long.

 

[Henrin]

Generally children support the idea of gender equality so yes. Like I said earlier it is because university is where people usually become politically aware and learn of the label.

Since when do children support that?

 

[Ancient Herald]

It is actually written in plain English, it is the actual document these articles are quoting and you will find that what these articles and videos are saying is pure fabrication.

Again, your assertions have zero sum substance and absolutely no credibility to me.

You are blinded by you your own prejudices and bigotries.

 

[DDD]

There is as much chance he is female as there is that I am Batman.

On what does this mentalization attempt stands on?

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

It makes me laugh when supposedly macho hetero white males claim to be the victims of women and other minorities.

What about this specific case.
Also known as, The Twitter Harassment case.

Christie Blatchford: Ruling in Twitter harassment trial could have enormous fallout for free speech | National Post

Is he a victim? Is that legitimate?
Or do you dismiss any alleged wrong doing so easily?

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Well I read the article then I read the actual UN article and none of the what the Breitbart article talks about is there, what the UN wants is for countries and law enforcement to take online threats seriously. They want ISPs and sites like Facebook to cooperate with governments and law enforcement agencies so these people who harass and threaten women can be brought to justice. For example, if someone goes and harasses a women saying they will rape her, what the UN wants is for Facebook and the ISP to cooperate with law enforcement to see that they are punished by the law. Online harassment of women is a very big issue and a very real issue faced by many women around and the world but sadly people and especially law enforcement do not take online harassment seriously.

The problem is that the definition of "harassment" is being diluted to include "criticism."
Two of those people listed on the report have suspicious claims of harassment (Quinn and Sarkeesian).
Not only that, but they have character issues as well as ethical concerns regarding their behavior.

Also "rape" in internet slang, doesn't always translate to the literal rape.
It's used all the time in the only gaming community and message boards as figurative slang.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Thank you. That cannot be said enough.

If that were true, we'd see feminist groups address issues were males have problems (suicide and domestic violence, for instance).
Many writers who claim to be feminists wouldn't come off as so virulently anti male.

Feminists have a serious image problem, if they really believe in equality.
They come off as the Westburo Baptist Church, led by Rush Limbaugh.

 

[Carjosse]

The problem is that the definition of "harassment" is being diluted to include "criticism."
Two of those people listed on the report have suspicious claims of harassment (Quinn and Sarkeesian).
Not only that, but they have character issues as well as ethical concerns regarding their behavior.

Also "rape" in internet slang, doesn't always translate to the literal rape.
It's used all the time in the only gaming community and message boards as figurative slang.

Yes, except it is very often not used as internet slang and the threat of rape along with murder and other bodily harm is constantly levied at women online. There is a pretty big distinction between harassment and criticism and it is not being diluted, what these women face is criminal harassment.

 

[Harman]

I think the same should be done to views critical of open borders and those who harbor racism.

Free speech is a concept of white privilege and has no place in an equal and open society.

 

[foadi]

Free speech is a concept of white privilege and has no place in an equal and open society.

Complete and utter nonsense. Feminism on the other hand, is definitely a product of white privilege and is deeply racist.

 

[ecofarm]

Isn't there a systematic issue of sexism in America that you should be educating us on?

Not systematic, systemic. No wonder you've no grasp.

 

[Ancient Herald]

I think the same should be done to views critical of open borders and those who harbor racism.

Free speech is a concept of white privilege and has no place in an equal and open society.

Okay, i'll bite.

How is Feminism white privilege?

I also do not see it as racist. However I fully believe it to be a hate group.
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