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UK and France 'in talks' to deploy troops to Ukraine over fears of US removing support

georgephillip said:
Russia will not allow the US and NATO to break it apart like the USSR was broken.
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Russia is gonna destroy itself.

It's economy is already becoming what helped blow up the USSR in the end. If Russia does fracture into zones demanding independence, it will be due to internal issues of the Gremlin's own making.

Russian ethnic minorities cheesed off for being singled out as the early main meat grinder fodder in Ukraine in the attempts to take the rest of Donetsk will be the main cause is my guess.
 
georgephillip said:
You are prolific for sure.
I try to respond to every post directed at me.
If I've missed one (or more). please tell me which ones I've failed to reply to.
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1. The US and NATO did not foment a coup in 2014.

2. There was no "puppet government in Kiev". The legitimate government yes. "Puppet government" no.

3. Ukraine may see the sacrifice of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian lives BECAUSE RUSSIA INVADED.

4. And "US goals of regime change in Moscow"? And regime change will come from within. 1917, 1991 come to mind?
 
Fledermaus said:
BUTWHATABOUTMURICA
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American arrogance and greed are driving conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine in order to stimulate profits for "defense contractors."

NATO expansion was about selling US made weapons in Europe regardless of how many Europeans paid with their land and lives:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

"Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state, similarly described the Russian attitude. 'Many Russians see Nato as a vestige of the cold war, inherently directed against their country. They point out that they have disbanded the Warsaw Pact, their military alliance, and ask why the west should not do the same.'

"It was an excellent question, and neither the Clinton administration nor its successors provided even a remotely convincing answer.

"George Kennan, the intellectual father of America’s containment policy during the cold war, perceptively warned in a May 1998 New York Times interview about what the Senate’s ratification of Nato’s first round of expansion would set in motion.

"'I think it is the beginning of a new cold war,' Kennan stated. 'I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.'"
 
Tangmo said:
Russia has been the mortal enemy of the United States for 100 years.

It was Stalin who gave Kim IL Sung the first communist dictator of North Korea the okay to invade the South, in mid 1950. It was the United States armed forces that stopped the invasion and reversed it, with only minor support from the modest South Korean Army and the world of democratic nations that contributed little of anything.
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The US invaded Russia in 1918.
Russia has never invaded the US.

It was the US who prevented free elections in Korea in 1945 in order to prevent communists from coming to power on the peninsula.

Five years later North Koreans tried to remedy that particular example of American arrogance:

December 31, 2002

A Pop Quiz on Korea​

Gary Leupp

"In June 1950 North Korean forces attacked the South and by September controlled all but the southeastern region around Pusan. What was the reaction of South Koreans?

"a. stiff resistance, in support of the popular U.S.-backed Syngman Rhee regime
b. little resistance, and initially much cooperation
c. general apathy
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Tangmo said:
Certain dictators are dead and their regimes are gone while their countries have become self consumed within their own borders in chaos and disorder to include civil wars. Ruling elites of shitthole countries have nothing much to rule over any more as they struggle simply to survive inside their own borders. Syria turns out to be the current project which does have promise. Putin meanwhile has bitten off way more than he can chew in Ukraine against Europe and the United States.
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Putin has already won in Ukraine.
The only question remaining is who will be the last Ukrainian to die for regime change in Moscow.
 
georgephillip said:
The US invaded Russia in 1918.
Russia has never invaded the US.

It was the US who prevented free elections in Korea in 1945 in order to prevent communists from coming to power on the peninsula.

Five years later North Koreans tried to remedy that particular example of American arrogance:

December 31, 2002

A Pop Quiz on Korea​

Gary Leupp

"In June 1950 North Korean forces attacked the South and by September controlled all but the southeastern region around Pusan. What was the reaction of South Koreans?
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Putin-MAGA Globalists are hellbent to destroy the United States global presence for democracy and market principles to replace it with their authoritarian, corrupt and autocratic tyranny.

Putin-MAGAs are Globalists who are opposed to the USA globalism that has precluded a third world war or a multinational major regional war that would turn the existing world order inside out.

Putin-MAGA Globalists are hellbent to tear it all down.

Globally.
 
georgephillip said:
Putin has already won in Ukraine.
The only question remaining is who will be the last Ukrainian to die for regime change in Moscow.
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Truman was a pretty good curve ball hitter too btw.

Speaking of MacArthur Truman was a Captain of Artillery in WW I under the command of the Brig.Gen. Douglas Mac who he fired in Korea three decades later when MacArthur was a 5-star.

Your post misses the reality that whoever is the leader of Russia is a Russian. A barbarian.
 
georgephillip said:
American arrogance and greed are driving conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine in order to stimulate profits for "defense contractors."

NATO expansion was about selling US made weapons in Europe regardless of how many Europeans paid with their land and lives:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

"Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state, similarly described the Russian attitude. 'Many Russians see Nato as a vestige of the cold war, inherently directed against their country. They point out that they have disbanded the Warsaw Pact, their military alliance, and ask why the west should not do the same.'

"It was an excellent question, and neither the Clinton administration nor its successors provided even a remotely convincing answer.

"George Kennan, the intellectual father of America’s containment policy during the cold war, perceptively warned in a May 1998 New York Times interview about what the Senate’s ratification of Nato’s first round of expansion would set in motion.

"'I think it is the beginning of a new cold war,' Kennan stated. 'I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.'"
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Putin-MAGA Globalists are always hard at work against the United States and the Rule of International Law that has an international arrest warrant out on Putin for War Crimes in Ukraine.

There is no one in the Russian government who dissents or varies from the Putin line against Nato that his American-Putin Globalists spout in the USA. There were American Taliban too of course. There was the German Bund in the USA until Pearl Harbor. There are Nazis now in the USA.

Kennan spoke in 1998 when Yeltsin was leader of Russia. What Kennan did not know was that Yeltsin was lining up Putin to become the new Czarist-Soviet leader for life. Your Guy. And what Kennan did not know too was that because of Putin there would be Putin-MAGA Globalists in America against America and The American Way of Life.
 
Tangmo said:
You are doing that, not I.

Your post shows your work, not mine. My work would be very different indeed.

So I'm nowhere to be found in your Putin-MAGA Globalist post. Indeed, you guys are all over the globe you are, not only in the United States. Against the United States. Always. Globally. Untiringly.
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Do you believe the US is a "good guy" when it comes to foreign policy?
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https://www.statista.com/chart/25748/us-airstrikes-civilian-casulties/
 
georgephillip said:
NATO expansion is the reason Ukraine has lost 20% of its land and seen millions of its citizens killed, maimed, and/or displaced since 2014.

Who wants to be the last Ukrainian die for regime change in Moscow?

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx
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Putin grabbing land using various BS excuses is the reason Ukraine has lost 20% of its land and seen millions of its citizens killed, maimed, and/or displaced since 2014.

And how would an independent, secure and whole Ukraine lead to regime change in Moscow?
 
georgephillip said:
The US invaded Russia in 1918.
Russia has never invaded the US.

It was the US who prevented free elections in Korea in 1945 in order to prevent communists from coming to power on the peninsula.

Five years later North Koreans tried to remedy that particular example of American arrogance:

December 31, 2002

A Pop Quiz on Korea​

Gary Leupp

"In June 1950 North Korean forces attacked the South and by September controlled all but the southeastern region around Pusan. What was the reaction of South Koreans?
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North Korea invaded South Korea with Russian support and blessings ....

And got their asses handed to them so badly the Chinese decided (as fellow Communists) to try to help them.

And, please. Tell us what a workers paradise North Korea is.
 
Fledermaus said:
And that would trigger RUSSIA to resolve how?
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Russia has resolved to avoid becoming the next statistic in the US war on terror:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_o...o the Costs of,, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and

"According to the Costs of War Project, the post-9/11 wars of the campaign have displaced 38 million people, the second largest number of forced displacements of any conflict since 1900,[21] and caused more than 4.5 million deaths (direct and indirect) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Philippines, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and Yemen."
 
georgephillip said:
American arrogance and greed are driving conflicts in Ukraine and Palestine in order to stimulate profits for "defense contractors."

NATO expansion was about selling US made weapons in Europe regardless of how many Europeans paid with their land and lives:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/nato-expansion-war-russia-ukraine

"Strobe Talbott, deputy secretary of state, similarly described the Russian attitude. 'Many Russians see Nato as a vestige of the cold war, inherently directed against their country. They point out that they have disbanded the Warsaw Pact, their military alliance, and ask why the west should not do the same.'

"It was an excellent question, and neither the Clinton administration nor its successors provided even a remotely convincing answer.

"George Kennan, the intellectual father of America’s containment policy during the cold war, perceptively warned in a May 1998 New York Times interview about what the Senate’s ratification of Nato’s first round of expansion would set in motion.

"'I think it is the beginning of a new cold war,' Kennan stated. 'I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else.'"
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NATO exists to sell US made weapons in Europe regardless of how many Europeans paid with their land and lives?

You do know member nations of NATO get CHOSE their weapons.... Right? They merely have to be compatible with NATO munitions and technology.

NATO

Not US munitions and technology.

NATO.

And how are NATO members paying with their land and lives?
 
georgephillip said:
Russia has resolved to avoid becoming the next statistic in the US war on terror:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_o...o the Costs of,, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and

"According to the Costs of War Project, the post-9/11 wars of the campaign have displaced 38 million people, the second largest number of forced displacements of any conflict since 1900,[21] and caused more than 4.5 million deaths (direct and indirect) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Philippines, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and Yemen."
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Russia was a target in the US war on terror?

Since when?
 
Fledermaus said:
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You're confused about the source of for-profit terror on this planet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_o...o the Costs of,, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and

"As of 2024, various global operations in the campaign are ongoing, including a U.S. military intervention in Somalia.[16][17]

"Although the major wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have ended, the Israel–Hamas war and its spillover across the Middle East have led to renewed debate on whether a new phase of the war on terror had begun.[18][19][20]

"According to the Costs of War Project, the post-9/11 wars of the campaign have displaced 38 million people, the second largest number of forced displacements of any conflict since 1900,[21] and caused more than 4.5 million deaths (direct and indirect) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Philippines, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and Yemen.

"They also estimate that it has cost the US Treasury over $8 trillion."

$$$$
 
georgephillip said:
You're confused about the source of for-profit terror on this planet?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_o...o the Costs of,, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and

"As of 2024, various global operations in the campaign are ongoing, including a U.S. military intervention in Somalia.[16][17]

"Although the major wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have ended, the Israel–Hamas war and its spillover across the Middle East have led to renewed debate on whether a new phase of the war on terror had begun.[18][19][20]

"According to the Costs of War Project, the post-9/11 wars of the campaign have displaced 38 million people, the second largest number of forced displacements of any conflict since 1900,[21] and caused more than 4.5 million deaths (direct and indirect) in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Philippines, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria and Yemen.

"They also estimate that it has cost the US Treasury over $8 trillion."

$$$$
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Saddam Hussein - Good guy?

ISIS - Beneficial entity?

Syria - Assad and Assad - Benign dictatorship?

Libya - Gaddafi - Nice guy?

Afghanistan - Taliban - Liberty loving leaders?

Yemen - Houtis - Nice people?
 
georgephillip said:
Do you believe the US is a "good guy" when it comes to foreign policy?
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https://www.statista.com/chart/25748/us-airstrikes-civilian-casulties/
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Your post misinterprets and misunderstands that the USA does not knowingly target civilians.

In contrast the Russian Barbarians in Ukraine as with Assad in Syria consciously, deliberately and willfully target civilians to include infrastructure such as hospitals and schools but not only. Indeed Putin and Assad bomb schools to send the message that if you oppose me I will kill your children. This is barbarism that your posts will not address.

The ICC in The Hague has an international arrest warrant issued against Vladimir Putin for War Crimes in Ukraine where Putin's willful and prideful barbarism is known across the world. Putin is proud of his butchery.

This about Putin and Russia is what the Putin-MAGA orientation of your posts ignores and accepts. And that works OT to try to deflect from. Your post is a total fail except that it is about you and not the USA.
 
We see this version of the Energizer Bunny has his own flamethrower.

A professional one.

With buttons and levers to flick nonstop.
 
georgephillip said:
NATO expansion Russian belligerence and disregard for international law is the reason Ukraine has lost 20% of its land and seen millions of its citizens killed, maimed, and/or displaced since 2014.
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Fixed it.
 
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