UK and France 'in talks' to deploy troops to Ukraine over fears of US removing support

[georgephillip]

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Truman was a pretty good curve ball hitter too btw.

Speaking of MacArthur Truman was a Captain of Artillery in WW I under the command of the Brig.Gen. Douglas Mac who he fired in Korea three decades later when MacArthur was a 5-star.

Your post misses the reality that whoever is the leader of Russia is a Russian. A barbarian.

Define "barbarian"

It was Harry Truman ( a racist born and bred) who murdered hundreds of thousands of Japanese for no reason except their racial composition.

 

[Fledermaus]

Define "barbarian"

It was Harry Truman ( a racist born and bred) who murdered hundreds of thousands of Japanese for no reason except their racial composition.

When did Truman "murder" these Japanese?

 

[Fledermaus]

The Ukraine war supporters don't care if more Ukrainians die.

Feel free to lie again about the beliefs of Ukraine supporters.

 

[georgephillip]

The Ukraine war supporters don't care if more Ukrainians die.

That opinion seems to be more prevalent among Americans than Ukrainians:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx

"LONDON -- After more than two years of grinding conflict, Ukrainians are increasingly weary of the war with Russia. In Gallup’s latest surveys of Ukraine, conducted in August and October 2024, an average of 52% of Ukrainians would like to see their country negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible.

"Nearly four in 10 Ukrainians (38%) believe their country should keep fighting until victory."

 

[georgephillip]

utin-MAGA Globalists are always hard at work against the United States and the Rule of International Law that has an international arrest warrant out on Putin for War Crimes in Ukraine.

Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?

Why is the US ignoring the Rule of International Law in Gaza? Does it have anything to do with the profits from US arms sales to the racist, apartheid state of Israel?

"The companies listed here have provided Israel with weapons and other military equipment used in its attacks on Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria since October 2023."

https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

 

[Fledermaus]

Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?

Why is the US ignoring the Rule of International Law in Gaza? Does it have anything to do with the profits from US arms sales to the racist, apartheid state of Israel?

"The companies listed here have provided Israel with weapons and other military equipment used in its attacks on Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria since October 2023."

https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

What is the US doing in Gaza that ignores the Rule of International Law?

Please be clear and concise.

 

[georgephillip]

What is the US doing in Gaza that ignores the Rule of International Law?

Please be clear and concise.

Enabling genocide.

 

[NOLA Dude]

That opinion seems to be more prevalent among Americans than Ukrainians:

https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx

"LONDON -- After more than two years of grinding conflict, Ukrainians are increasingly weary of the war with Russia. In Gallup’s latest surveys of Ukraine, conducted in August and October 2024, an average of 52% of Ukrainians would like to see their country negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible.

"Nearly four in 10 Ukrainians (38%) believe their country should keep fighting until victory."

Right it's easier to cheer for a war that doesn't affect your life directly and is not anywhere near you.

 

[NOLA Dude]

Feel free to lie again about the beliefs of Ukraine supporters.

Are you interested in signing up to go fight on the front lines?

 

[georgephillip]

There is no one in the Russian government who dissents or varies from the Putin line against Nato that his American-Putin Globalists spout in the USA. There were American Taliban too of course. There was the German Bund in the USA until Pearl Harbor. There are Nazis now in the USA.

There are many Russians who believe Putin is not bringing sufficient shock and awe to Ukraine.

All Russians remember how many times western imperialist armies have invaded their country, and they will use all their weapons to prevent another such aggression.

Russians also remember how Americans pillaged their economy of the 1990s, and they will not tolerate another such looting:

"In early November, Barbara Bonte, a Belgian member of the European Union (EU) parliament, raised concern about the sell-off of Ukrainian land on a massive scale to U.S. private equity firms along with some Saudi agro-industrial and investment businesses."

U.S. corporate land grab in Ukraine underlies war with Russia | MR Online

Heralded as a hero in Western media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has allowed foreign private interests to steal his country’s best land.

mronline.org

American capitalists are fighting for regime change in Moscow to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

 

[Roadvirus]

When did Truman "murder" these Japanese?

Most likely speaking of the A-bomb drops.

 

[georgephillip]

Kennan spoke in 1998 when Yeltsin was leader of Russia. What Kennan did not know was that Yeltsin was lining up Putin to become the new Czarist-Soviet leader for life. Your Guy. And what Kennan did not know too was that because of Putin there would be Putin-MAGA Globalists in America against America and The American Way of Life.

Putin was open to joining NATO in the 1990s; how did that work out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations

"In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC).

"Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1]

"The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together."

 

[Fledermaus]

Most likely speaking of the A-bomb drops.

***Shhhhh***

I want him to make the claim.

 

[Fledermaus]

Putin was open to joining NATO in the 1990s; how did that work out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations

"In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC).

"Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1]

"The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together."

Yep....

Then again illegal annexation and invasion is not in line with NATO goals (except when to save civilian lives).

 

[Fledermaus]

Are you interested in signing up to go fight on the front lines?

What does that have to do with your lying about the beliefs of Ukraine supporters?

 

[Fledermaus]

There are many Russians who believe Putin is not bringing sufficient shock and awe to Ukraine.

All Russians remember how many times western imperialist armies have invaded their country, and they will use all their weapons to prevent another such aggression.

Russians also remember how Americans pillaged their economy of the 1990s, and they will not tolerate another such looting:

"In early November, Barbara Bonte, a Belgian member of the European Union (EU) parliament, raised concern about the sell-off of Ukrainian land on a massive scale to U.S. private equity firms along with some Saudi agro-industrial and investment businesses."

U.S. corporate land grab in Ukraine underlies war with Russia | MR Online

Heralded as a hero in Western media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has allowed foreign private interests to steal his country’s best land.

mronline.org

American capitalists are fighting for regime change in Moscow to the last drop of Ukrainian blood.

You keep bleating about "regime change in Moscow".

How does a free, independent and whole Ukraine cause "regime change in Moscow "?

 

[Fledermaus]

Enabling genocide.

How is the US "enabling genocide"?

The IDF doesnt have the weapons to commit this so-called genocide?

 

[Tangmo]

Define "barbarian"

It was Harry Truman ( a racist born and bred) who murdered hundreds of thousands of Japanese for no reason except their racial composition.

You'll have to ask me I'm afraid.

This is because your post is prohibitively anti American.

No matter what I might say the anti Americanism of your posts is insatiable. I haven't the time or inclination for that. I have zero interest in co-dominating the thread and topic by refuting your anti Americanism right here in America besides. I'll post to you but not on your insatiable anti American terms.

 

[DrewPaul]

Europe knows Trump is a fat puss. They have to defend themselves because America elected a coward.

We have a beta President.

Only brave presidents spend endless money on a lost cause and then bravely send in troops to die right? Only cowards take a shot to the head and stand up and yell fight fight fight.

 

[georgephillip]

Putin grabbing land using various BS excuses is the reason Ukraine has lost 20% of its land and seen millions of its citizens killed, maimed, and/or displaced since 2014.

And how would an independent, secure and whole Ukraine lead to regime change in Moscow?

You should direct that question to the appropriate thieves:

"In 2021, Zelensky initiated a land reform program as part of the structural adjustment program begun under the auspices of Western financial institutions that enabled U.S.-based corporations to take over Ukraine’s land.2..."

"The thieves included Goldman Sachs, a Wall Street investment firm well represented in the Biden administration, which in April 2022 bought NN Investment Partners Holding N.V., a Netherlands-based company that is a major shareholder in Ukraine’s biggest landowner, Kernel Holding S.A, and in Astarta, another large landowner in Ukraine.3"

U.S. corporate land grab in Ukraine underlies war with Russia | MR Online

Heralded as a hero in Western media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has allowed foreign private interests to steal his country’s best land.

mronline.org

 

[Tangmo]

Putin was open to joining NATO in the 1990s; how did that work out?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–NATO_relations

"In 1994, Russia joined the Partnership for Peace program, and on 27 May 1997, the NATO–Russia Founding Act (NRFA) was signed at the 1997 Paris NATO Summit in France, enabling the creation of the NATO–Russia Permanent Joint Council (NRPJC).

"Through the early part of 2010s NATO and Russia signed several additional agreements on cooperation.[1]

"The NRPJC was replaced in 2002 by the NATO-Russia Council (NRC), which was established in an effort to partner on security issues and joint projects together."

Alas Putin was Bismark scheming with Germany on the Nord Stream Serpent gas pipeline project in the Baltic that was the Russo-German geostrategic energy scheme against Europe and the USA in Europe. Putin-MAGA Globalists try to deflect from this fact by accusing the USA of causing the creation of the Russo-German Serpent pipeline in the Baltic that's now a pile of junk at the bottom of the sea.

 

[Fledermaus]

You should direct that question to the appropriate thieves:

"In 2021, Zelensky initiated a land reform program as part of the structural adjustment program begun under the auspices of Western financial institutions that enabled U.S.-based corporations to take over Ukraine’s land.2..."

"The thieves included Goldman Sachs, a Wall Street investment firm well represented in the Biden administration, which in April 2022 bought NN Investment Partners Holding N.V., a Netherlands-based company that is a major shareholder in Ukraine’s biggest landowner, Kernel Holding S.A, and in Astarta, another large landowner in Ukraine.3"

U.S. corporate land grab in Ukraine underlies war with Russia | MR Online

Heralded as a hero in Western media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has allowed foreign private interests to steal his country’s best land.

mronline.org

So what?

Even if true, how does the sale of land cause "regime change in Moscow"?

And aren't people who purchase land the opposite of "thieves"?

 

[georgephillip]

Really?

Then why the continued combat?



How is the fighting in Ukraine tied to regime change in Moscow?

Putin has accomplished his goal of removing hostile military forces from his western border
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-28-2024

Imho, the fighting continues because of the private profits being generated by selling western arms to Ukraine regardless of how many additional Ukrainians are killed, maimed, or displaced.

 

[Fledermaus]

Putin has accomplished his goal of removing hostile military forces from his western border
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-september-28-2024

Imho, the fighting continues because of the private profits being generated by selling western arms to Ukraine regardless of how many additional Ukrainians are killed, maimed, or displaced.

His goal was to take Kyiv.

And he got the Russian Army pushed back.

His goal was to De-Nazify Ukraine.

Which was a lie to begin with.

The war continues because Russians continue to invade Ukraine.

 

[Tangmo]

Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e?

Why is the US ignoring the Rule of International Law in Gaza? Does it have anything to do with the profits from US arms sales to the racist, apartheid state of Israel?

"The companies listed here have provided Israel with weapons and other military equipment used in its attacks on Gaza, the West Bank, Lebanon, and Syria since October 2023."

https://afsc.org/gaza-genocide-companies

The peoples of the ME have for thousands of years been hellbent to annihilate the other guy.

Which is the reason I don't give a rat's arse about the ME. I rarely if ever post about the ME nor will I start with your anti Ameicans posts abut everything American everywhere at all times.

They're all criminally insane in the ME so I focus on the armband Putin-MAGA Globalists who want the Brics and the shitthole Global South to destroy the USA then have the so called Global South rule the world with Putin and Xi.

Netanyahu anyway has long been the Republican-MAGA US Senator from Israel.