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U.S. Vote counting = Disgrace


We counted all the votes, the republicans tried to stop counting once they realized they were losing.

I'm not being ineloquent, I've been telling everyone about how we have done it in AZ. ID to vote, and all mail in ballots are checked against the signature in the database. Youth and women turned out, we sent a message to Trump.
 
beefheart said:
Whenever someone bitches about the vote count...it is because their side lost.

Booo hoooo.

Count every vote...because every vote counts.
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I agree, beefheart. But by that same token, whenever I hear talk about "voter suppression" it is because their side lost.
 
Bucky said:
The United States is not Vanuatu or Palau.
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Comparing the United States to Vanuatu or Palau is actually an insult -- to Vanuatu or Palau.
 
So you counted illegal votes as well... in your all the votes?

It's a real national disgrace that Arizonans have chosen such a lying deceiver over a true, proven patriot.

Shameful.

But you folks are the ones that kept electing flakes to the Senate. You folks have gone on to elect this ignominious Sinema whose anti-American actions were known well before the election and yet you folks elected her despite that dishonor.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/10/kyrsten-sinema-promoted-a-terrorist-lawyer/

I do hope that your governor appoints McSally to Senator as a partial amends from the state to the rest of us. Your state owes the rest of us an apology.
 
beefheart said:
In my state the repugs tried to sue to stop the count of legally submitted ballots...because they were losing....typical.

The rest of your post is idiotic and inane.
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the "Republican" party is the party of voter suppression. as for the signature ****, i'd probably have my ballot tossed, as my signature is different over time. i heard a report on NPR that some states use your voter registration to judge your signature. FFS, i was 18. i'm in my 40s now, and my signature is different.

if you live in a red state, show up and vote in person. otherwise, you might be screwed. also, check your registration status often, especially if you have more than one residence.
 

That's how NY does it. You sign the book, that's it. Don't even have to show any form of ID at all.
 
holbritter said:
That's how NY does it. You sign the book, that's it. Don't even have to show any form of ID at all.
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that's a bit different. it used to be that way here, too. you signed, and that was it. however, they didn't have "experts" checking your signature so that they could toss out your legitimate vote.
 

It is.

The amount of gerrymandering, and the racist efforts in so many states to suppress the votes of minorities is disgraceful.
 
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Why can't homeless people vote? Why do you think felons shouldn't be able to vote?
Do you think any US citizen natural or naturalized should have the ability to vote and if so why do you think it's a privilege not a right?
 
There is no reason not to have moved voting into this
century. I can file and pay my taxes online, renew my driver's license, register to vote (no signature required)...its stupid that we can't actually vote online.
 

No, there were no illegal votes. Any vote that was contested they would check against the signature, if a mismatch, they would call the voter up on the phone, or visit in person or email.

Don't give me this baloney about a "lying deceiver" that is just pure hyperbolic bilge. McSally was a bad candidate, always negative, always playing to the wignut rubes.

Sinema has done more for veterans and fixing the VA than any other politician in AZ and a hell of a lot more than any other representative, she won because she did a good job in 6 years in congress, your delusions non-withstanding.
 
Middle_Ground said:
Why can't homeless people vote? Why do you think felons shouldn't be able to vote?
Do you think any US citizen natural or naturalized should have the ability to vote and if so why do you think it's a privilege not a right?
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You need an address to vote.
 

Yeah...except online voting can be hacked. I'm not sure why you think making sure every citizen's vote is counted is disgraceful, but quite a lot of that sentiment seems to have been coming from the right for some time.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Yeah...except online voting can be hacked. I'm not sure why you think making sure every citizen's vote is counted is disgraceful, but quite a lot of that sentiment seems to have been coming from the right for some time.
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No one in this thread has explained to me how voting online is any more less safe than voting in person.

If you "trust" the internet enough to deposit checks via your banking app or open a checking/savings account online, you should be able to trust online voting.
 

I trust online banking because there is always a paper trail that can, in principle, be reconstructed, and the FDIC ensures my deposits.

Online voting is very different. If the system is hacked, there would be no paper trail that could be reconstructed. If the voting system were hacked, it wouldn't be one individual's money being stolen. it'd be an entire election, with all that such entails.
 
You seem to know a lot about who she says she is in front of us, but we all got what she was saying behind the scenes... and what she simply would not disavow.

She help the vets with her anti-war stances, her Local to Global Justice antics, her secret hatred of Arizonans, her backing a citizen who might want to go off and join the Taliban against us?

Hey, she is a modern democrat. What more does the thinking person need to know in the current political environment? She seems like real trouble and will degrade the Senate down the line. But your side does that on a constant basis anyhow, so what's the diff, huh?
 

Anti-War is a bad thing?....If more politicians were anti-war there wouldn't be 4,400 Dead US Military from Iraq...Who died for nothing...
 

She was my congressperson for 6 years. She did a great job representing a 50/50 district. She is very well liked here. Look at her record, all the other stuff is just garbage, especially the "taliban" quote, she was on a radio program with an asshole libertarian who kept pestering her, and she said that just shut him the hell up. She doesn't hate Arizonans, she was talking about the dumb rednecks that blot this state. Fact is, she got a lot of Republicans in AZ to cross over and vote for her, and for good reason, she is a good person.

Not that any amount of reasoned defense will be heard and understood by you. Too bad.
 

Since there is no paper trail where I live now and the system can be hacked I don't see the difference.
 

Blue State America Welcomes her....We knew Arizona could join the rest of the West....
 
Saladin4 said:
Blue State America Welcomes her....We knew Arizona could join the rest of the West....
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The thing is, so many voters here are now independent. We still have a lot of rubes and morons here, but they are dying off.
 
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