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U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya

Well it is certainly coming under criticism
Libya Live Blog - March 20 | Al Jazeera Blogs

which goes a bit along with Al Jazeera's early article, before anything happened and suggesting a possible way to go about things which might keep people unified on it's rightness

West overzealous on Libya - Opinion - Al Jazeera English
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Do you have any proof that civilians are now dead?
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Just the reports in the news media around the world. The same proof that I have that Obama green lighted this act of war on Libya. Do you have any proof that cruise missiles where launched into Libya yesterday?
 
SgtRock said:
Just the reports in the news media around the world. The same proof that I have that Obama green lighted this act of war on Libya. Do you have any proof that cruise missiles where launched into Libya yesterday?
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Wanna cite any?
 

That depends on what the intent was in that case. I don't know if I would count accidents, though I suppose you could have two sides accidentally at war with each other. Were it Israel's intention to attack a U.S. ship and it was done without the knowledge of the U.S. then it would have meant ever so briefly that we definitely were.

Of course, you are pointing out these sorts of things when you were making a claim about us knowingly bombing Libyan military installations as the initial part of a military campaign. The two simply don't compare. Whatever anyone thinks about those other cases we are definitely at war with Libya despite whatever you might claim for whatever weird reason of yours.

LMAO. Anyone who think America was at war with Iran during the Iran-Iraq War cannot be taken seriously. Anything they say is purely devoid of reality.
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Not for the whole duration sure, but when we were sinking their ships, shooting down their planes, and attacking their oil platforms we certainly were. What would you call it? "Just protecting the damned oil"?
 
SgtRock said:
The topic is U.S. Tomahawk Cruise Missiles Hit Targets in Libya. Those missiles have caused the deaths of civilians. Are those civilians collateral damage?
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Yes. Next question...
 
SgtRock said:
Just the reports in the news media around the world. The same proof that I have that Obama green lighted this act of war on Libya. Do you have any proof that cruise missiles where launched into Libya yesterday?
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"We", the west, armed the mother****er, so we have the moral obligation to take care of our own trash. It's an act of war, so be it.
 
reefedjib said:
"We", the west, armed the mother****er, so we have the moral obligation to take care of our own trash. It's an act of war, so be it.
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No we didn't. C'mon, man, you're smarter than to repeat that bull**** talking point.
 
spud_meister said:
Ahh, so Bush is a murderer, all those peopl I thought were idiots are actually right.
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That's all I've heard for years, now. Does the same standard apply?
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Wanna cite any?
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Sure why not.

Western warplanes pummel Libya in Operation 'Odyssey Dawn' opening salvo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel News


AFP: West pounds Libya, Kadhafi vows retaliation

State-media said strikes by U.S. and coalition forces hit a civilian hospital on the outskirts of Tripoli and a gas storage facility in Misrata
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Allied Forces Attack Libya - WSJ.com
 
apdst said:
It's murder. I know, because it's all I've heard for the past 9 years.
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Bah! Everyone, who is being honest and not trying to pick a political bone, knows that we only killed Iraqi civilians in the hundreds, and that was not policy, of course. They were killed as collateral damage in bombing, by overzealous troops at checkpoints and in convoys, or by the occasional psychotic. Most Iraqi civilian deaths were caused by IEDs and carbombs, set off by insurgents. It is our responsibility, however, since we chose to invade Iraq and destabilize it, and disband the Army. That's perfectly acceptable to me.

So the question is, what the the correct moral calculation? Then and now?
 

Is America willing to pay that price?
 
reefedjib said:
Don't ask stupid questions. Make your point, or ask a better question.
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You said, "we", armed Qadaffi.

I said, " no we didn't".

You used French aircraft sales to Libya to backup your comment.

My point is, we didn't arm Qadaffi.
 
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