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Oh yes, I also mentioned Palestine which is still a big issue for some and Chechnya which is what one of the 7/7 bombers focused on.
Iraq was not the be all and end all for terrorism but one is blind if they try and deny it did not increase radicals.
I'm not twisting anything. You said:
Obviously, you support the motivations behind the terrorism.
You do it again, here. It's not the fault of the Islamists. Huh? According to you, it's because of what everyone else does.
Oh yes, I also mentioned Palestine which is still a big issue for some and Chechnya which is what one of the 7/7 bombers focused on.
Iraq was not the be all and end all for terrorism but one is blind if they try and deny it did not increase radicals.
I seem to remember plenty of terrorism prior to Iraq and Afghanistan.
I have not said Islamists are not responsible for their actions.
Continue trying to lie
My point is that there are causes of terrorism that go beyond the political situations in Iraq/Afghanistan/Palestine/Chechnya/anywhere else.
Moreover, the fact that people are disgruntled about a political situation does not justify or otherwise excuse terrorism.
So I'm a terrorist because I said 'we'?
You said Muslims do not denounce causes/reasons. I said we (as in many Muslims) wanted a withdrawal from Iraq etc ... because we were and still are fully aware of the impact the invasions has had on many Muslims. It has turned alot of them to extremism and/or radicals
But that doesn't mean I do not blame the killing of innocents on those who commit the act. They are responsible and each will be judged individually by Allah for their actions.
You said, that, "we" wanted the US to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan. You sound as if you include yourself with the folks who hold annomosity toward the US. We were attacked by AQ, which was hold up in Afghanistan. We have every right in the world to invade Afghanistan.
Nothing justifies killing innocent people but pretending to be oblivious to some of the causes helps no one.
Politics is not the sole cause of terrorism no, but for some to pretend that religion is the only reason some Muslims blow themselves up is ignorant.
You're still blaming everyone, but the terrorists.
Brilliant detective work there Poirot
I work for Al Qaeda.
But that doesn't mean I do not blame the killing of innocents on those who commit the act. They are responsible and each will be judged individually by Allah for their actions.
Clearly you must have missed it.
To pretend that Muslims aren't motivated by their religious beliefs to commit terrorists acts, is equally ignorant.
I never said no terrorist isn't motivated by their beliefs :shrug:
**** that! I want them to answer up, here on earth. We don't have time for Allah to punish those twisted ********ers.
Don't get me started on teh Cartoon Riots.
Were the Cartoon Riots motivated by their beliefs?
But, I certainly don't see you condemning AQ for their motivations.
Nothing justifies killing innocent people but pretending to be oblivious to some of the causes helps no one.
Politics is not the sole cause of terrorism no, but for some to pretend that religion is the only reason some Muslims blow themselves up is ignorant.
I have never condemned Al Qaeda? Lol.
The cartoon riots were motivated by religion yes.
I don't think anyone is pretending that it's solely religion or that the other factors don't exist. The point is that you're phrasing things in a way that seems to be shifting the blame in some cases.
I've enver seen you condemn AQ's ideology, nor their motivations. A few posts back, you even apologized for them.
Come on folks, isn't it obvious, all and every muslim is wonderful and peace loving. Its all OUR fault that some of them forget that at times. If we just do every single solitary thing the radical...err, I mean, peace loving but pushed to the edge by those evil westerners....muslims want then there wouldn't be any more terrorism. Why can't you all understand that its so simple!? Just stop supporting Israel, legitimize Hamas, act like the Middle East is a wonderful utopia that can never have any affect on the outside world so should be completely ignored, and be sure to flick off any allies that they dislike before you boot them over the cliff. Just follow those simple steps and us foolish westerners would stop forcing the rad-...there I go again...segment of peace loving muslims pushed to the edge and made temporarily insane by the evil and vileness of the rest and we'll all be happy and wonderful and rainbows! http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/hellokitty05.gif
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