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U.K. Supreme Court Rules Trans Women Can’t Be Defined as Women (2 Viewers)

Sure it is.
A sphere is a 3D shape where the surface is equal distance from the center. That is not true for an oblate spheroid where the top and bottom are compressed, so its closer then the equator. Details matter, just as you cannot say that all triangles are the same because they all add up to 180°.

This is high school level geometry.
 
This has nothing to do with sexuality. It has to do with biology. A man is an adult male. It’s impossible for a man to become a woman. I get that this objective fact hurts your feelings. But reality doesn’t care.
You really don't get it. Sexuality IS biological. If you are an adult male, it is because you have male sexual biology, whether genetic or phenotypic. Being an adult male has to do with both biology and, more specifically, sexuality.

Whether or not it is possible for a man to become a woman depends on whether or not you restrict the definitions of man and woman to biological/sexual definitions or include cultural/gender definitions. In addition, some have hypothesized that there is some kind of biological/sexual aspect to trans gender identity - e.g., possibly something in brain development of late term fetus, though no evidence yet supports this for fetuses/infants. It is true that trans gender identity in adults involves differences in brain functioning, however.
 
Objectively 1000

I know.

Gender is sex. Man = adult male. Always has. You know that. Everyone knows that. It’s impossible for a man to transition into a woman. Sorry.
Scientists in anthropology, sociology, psychology, and behavioral aspects of biology have recognized that sex and gender differ for well over half a century. Please stop living in the 1950s and earlier, because if you can't catch up, you're not supposed to be here.
 
Nope. Biology doesn’t care that you don’t like it.

Surrender accepted.

Nope. A “trans female” is a man. And will forever remain a man. No matter how many body parts he mutilates or artificial hormones he injects. Sorry.
You do not get to define the English language, as it is not your personal property, but is shared with all other native English speakers in England, Scotland, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the US, to say nothing of all the native English speakers living abroad away from those countries.

And in this native English today, the correct usage is ordinarily "A 'trans man' is a genetically or phenotypically natural female," at least until we can figure out whether or not brain functioning was transitional even in the late fetal stage or infancy. The expression "trans female" is non-existent, except in the isolated idiolects of the ignorant.
 
You really don't get it. Sexuality IS biological. If you are an adult male, it is because you have male sexual biology, whether genetic or phenotypic. Being an adult male has to do with both biology and, more specifically, sexuality.

Whether or not it is possible for a man to become a woman depends on whether or not you restrict the definitions of man and woman to biological/sexual definitions or include cultural/gender definitions. In addition, some have hypothesized that there is some kind of biological/sexual aspect to trans gender identity - e.g., possibly something in brain development of late term fetus, though no evidence yet supports this for fetuses/infants. It is true that trans gender identity in adults involves differences in brain functioning, however.
It doesn’t depend on anything, because it’s not possible for a man to become a woman.
 
Scientists in anthropology, sociology, psychology, and behavioral aspects of biology have recognized that sex and gender differ for well over half a century.
Those aren’t sciences.
Please stop living in the 1950s and earlier, because if you can't catch up, you're not supposed to be here.
Reality doesn’t care about your ideology.
 
You do not get to define the English language, as it is not your personal property, but is shared with all other native English speakers in England, Scotland, Ireland, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, and the US, to say nothing of all the native English speakers living abroad away from those countries.

And in this native English today, the correct usage is ordinarily "A 'trans man' is a genetically or phenotypically natural female," at least until we can figure out whether or not brain functioning was transitional even in the late fetal stage or infancy. The expression "trans female" is non-existent, except in the isolated idiolects of the ignorant.
A “trans female” is a man. No amount of cosmetic surgery changes this.
 
That a court has to even make such a ruling indicates just how ****ing insane leftists around the world are and demonstrates just how destructive the ridiculous shit they have been shoveling has been on society over the last decade.

We should actually caveat that...because the problem is not a global phenomenon...it just exists in the 'elevated' west where leftists pushing Marxists philosophies are allowed to thrive.
 
It doesn’t depend on anything, because it’s not possible for a man to become a woman.
This depends on whether or not you make highly limited genetic definitions of these terms or extend them to have looser biological or even purely cultural definitions. It is possible for a man to undergo a so-called sex change operation which alters the morphology of the body so as to have an artificially made vagina and breasts and the hormonal balance and other things.

If the person also uses not only hormone therapy but also puberty blockers and then also has sex change surgery, the person may be genetically male but morphologically similar to a female. You may object to claiming that this is becoming a woman, but there are people who actually appear remarkably like women when they do this. Frankly, if a person goes so far as to have sex change surgery, I don't even understand why anyone would object to their being classed in the same category as those with which they are superficially alike.
 
Those aren’t sciences.
Yes, anthropology, sociology, and psychology are social/behavioral sciences and that status is accepted by people in "harder" sciences. Behavioral biology is the behavioral branch of biology and is, therefore, a science. Medical science draws on the findings of psychology and behavioral biology as well as biology. Get over yourself.
Reality doesn’t care about your ideology.
No, reality doesn't care about YOUR ideology. Clinical psychologists and psychiatrists, the latter being medical doctors as part of the requirements for their status, have been treating people with gender dysphoria for quite a few decades. It is YOU who have an ideological problem. That's what being old-fashioned IS.
 
A “trans female” is a man. No amount of cosmetic surgery changes this.
You are not arguing about objective empirical reality, but about language use, and unless you have scientific credentials appropriate to participating at the professional level in the development of medicine, psychiatry, psychology, and behavioral biology, you don't get to define it in those professions.

Get over yourself.
 
Yes, anthropology, sociology, and psychology are social/behavioral sciences and that status is accepted by people in "harder" sciences. Behavioral biology is the behavioral branch of biology and is, therefore, a science.
These are not sciences.
Medical science draws on the findings of psychology and behavioral biology as well as biology. Get over yourself.
It has nothing to do with me.
No, reality doesn't care about YOUR ideology. Clinical psychologists and psychiatrists, the latter being medical doctors as part of the requirements for their status, have been treating people with gender dysphoria for quite a few decades. It is YOU who have an ideological problem. That's what being old-fashioned IS.
It is not possible for a man to become a woman. You cannot like this objective fact all you want. Reality doesn’t care.
 
You are not arguing about objective empirical reality, but about language use, and unless you have scientific credentials appropriate to participating at the professional level in the development of medicine, psychiatry, psychology, and behavioral biology, you don't get to define it in those professions.

Get over yourself.
It is objective reality that a “trans female” is a man.
 
That a court has to even make such a ruling indicates just how ****ing insane leftists around the world are and demonstrates just how destructive the ridiculous shit they have been shoveling has been on society over the last decade.

We should actually caveat that...because the problem is not a global phenomenon...it just exists in the 'elevated' west where leftists pushing Marxists philosophies are allowed to thrive.
This is not about sociopolitical theory and ideology.

First, anthropology and comparative linguistics can attest that there are and have been a number of societies with cultures in which there were more than two genders.

Second, gender dysphoria has been around for decades in quite a few developed societies.

Third, for quite a few decades, sex change surgery has been practiced. But genuinely Marxist societies, those which genuinely put Marxist theory into government practice, have not necessarily approved of this. The societies you are talking about are all at least partly capitalist societies, not fully socialist ones.
 
These are not sciences.

It has nothing to do with me.

It is not possible for a man to become a woman. You cannot like this objective fact all you want. Reality doesn’t care.
You are mistaking your narrow mindedness for reality. In reality, people in harder sciences recognize that there are harder and softer sciences, without asserting that disciplines like psychology are not sciences.
 
A sphere is a 3D shape where the surface is equal distance from the center. That is not true for an oblate spheroid where the top and bottom are compressed, so its closer then the equator. Details matter, just as you cannot say that all triangles are the same because they all add up to 180°.

This is high school level geometry.
As a matter of fact, because the Earth is an oblate spheroid, you weigh less at the equator than you do at the poles. Just a little trivia. 😁
 

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