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Two-Thirds of Americans Want U.S. to Join Climate Change Pact

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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/30/science/earth/01poll-document.html - Poll
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/world/americas/us-climate-change-republicans-democrats.html
A solid majority of Americans say the United States should join an international treaty to limit the impact of global warming, but on this and other climate-related questions, opinion divides sharply along partisan lines, according to the latest New York Times/CBS News poll.
Two-thirds of Americans support the United States joining a binding international agreement to curb growth of greenhouse gas emissions, but a slim majority of Republicans remain opposed, the poll found. Sixty-three percent of Americans — including a bare majority of Republicans — said they would support domestic policy limiting carbon emissions from power plants.
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I’m shocked you had the guts to post this nonsense, but I get shocked often with the liberal spin and lies. Note to liberal, there hasn't been any warming for 19 years, yes we know NOAA and NASA have been falsifying data along with other scientist with monies at stake.
 
David_N said:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/30/science/earth/01poll-document.html - Poll
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/world/americas/us-climate-change-republicans-democrats.html
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This poll is about as scientific as some of the "solutions" being bandied about as ways to reduce CO2 levels and reverse the effects of man made climate change.

You should be aware, since you're spewing this stuff, that no CO2 remediation or reduction is possible without legally binding China, the United States, and India - the producers of around 80% of the problem. You should be aware that China and India aren't now or in the near future going to forego coal fired electrical plants that produce cheap and reliable electricity.

As a Canadian, I'm well aware that my country produces only 11% of our electricity from coal and we're reducing that further - the US over 40% - and yet Canada is criticized by ignorant progressives in the US as not environmentally responsible as the US produces more coal, more oil, more natural gas, than any other nation on the planet and gained that status under President Obama, the so-called friend of the environment and a hero to the ignorant environmental rubes in the US.

The whole plan in Paris and through the UN is simply a scam to tax first world nations to funnel 100s of $billions of dollars into the UN to distribute to petty dictators and others as a massive wealth redistribution scheme and it will do zero to affect climate or to reduce CO2 emissions.
 
CanadaJohn said:
This poll is about as scientific as some of the "solutions" being bandied about as ways to reduce CO2 levels and reverse the effects of man made climate change.

You should be aware, since you're spewing this stuff, that no CO2 remediation or reduction is possible without legally binding China, the United States, and India - the producers of around 80% of the problem. You should be aware that China and India aren't now or in the near future going to forego coal fired electrical plants that produce cheap and reliable electricity.

As a Canadian, I'm well aware that my country produces only 11% of our electricity from coal and we're reducing that further - the US over 40% - and yet Canada is criticized by ignorant progressives in the US as not environmentally responsible as the US produces more coal, more oil, more natural gas, than any other nation on the planet and gained that status under President Obama, the so-called friend of the environment and a hero to the ignorant environmental rubes in the US.

The whole plan in Paris and through the UN is simply a scam to tax first world nations to funnel 100s of $billions of dollars into the UN to distribute to petty dictators and others as a massive wealth redistribution scheme and it will do zero to affect climate or to reduce CO2 emissions.
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Take your silly conspiracy theories elsewhere.
whole plan in Paris and through the UN is simply a scam to tax first world nations to funnel 100s of $billions of dollars into the UN to distribute to petty dictators and others as a massive wealth redistribution scheme and it will do zero to affect climate or to reduce CO2 emissions.
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woodsman said:
I’m shocked you had the guts to post this nonsense, but I get shocked often with the liberal spin and lies. Note to liberal, there hasn't been any warming for 19 years, yes we know NOAA and NASA have been falsifying data along with other scientist with monies at stake.
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The decidedly non liberal Department of War disagrees with you.
 
woodsman said:
I’m shocked you had the guts to post this nonsense, but I get shocked often with the liberal spin and lies. Note to liberal, there hasn't been any warming for 19 years, yes we know NOAA and NASA have been falsifying data along with other scientist with monies at stake.
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Note to liberal, there hasn't been any warming for 19 years, yes we know NOAA and NASA have been falsifying data along with other scientist with monies at stake.
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Again, that's a conspiracy theory.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm
 
David_N said:
Take your silly conspiracy theories elsewhere.
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I appreciate that your whole feel good approach to fighting climate change is destroyed by the facts on the ground and like most idealists, they deny and refuse to face reality when it bites their desires and dreams. Any conspiracies here are on behalf of big business, government cronies, and politicians/diplomats who will be the only ones to benefit from any agreement that may come out of Paris. But they love having well meaning rubes play along.
 
David_N said:
Again, that's a conspiracy theory.
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm
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You just don't get it. It's not the science that's being challenged by people like me. It's the proposed solutions and agreements that have zero to do with solving the problem and everything to do with wealth redistribution. You only have to look at the cap and trade and carbon tax schemes that have been implemented in Europe over the past decade that have done nothing to reduce CO2 output and have increased costs to citizens for virtually all goods and driven large numbers of Europeans into energy poverty where it costs them in excess of 10% of income simply to power and heat their homes. It's a crime that's being perpetrated.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate that your whole feel good approach to fighting climate change is destroyed by the facts on the ground and like most idealists, they deny and refuse to face reality when it bites their desires and dreams. Any conspiracies here are on behalf of big business, government cronies, and politicians/diplomats who will be the only ones to benefit from any agreement that may come out of Paris. But they love having well meaning rubes play along.
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Luckily Obama cannot make a legally binding contract.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I appreciate that your whole feel good approach to fighting climate change is destroyed by the facts on the ground and like most idealists, they deny and refuse to face reality when it bites their desires and dreams. Any conspiracies here are on behalf of big business, government cronies, and politicians/diplomats who will be the only ones to benefit from any agreement that may come out of Paris. But they love having well meaning rubes play along.
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This is a conspiracy theory:
whole plan in Paris and through the UN is simply a scam to tax first world nations to funnel 100s of $billions of dollars into the UN to distribute to petty dictators and others as a massive wealth redistribution scheme and it will do zero to affect climate or to reduce CO2 emissions.
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Soho gator said:
The decidedly non liberal Department of War disagrees with you.
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The Department of War, no such thing , you may be referring to the DOD, but hey, you think you have all the answers. My statement about the falsifying of data by NOAA and NASA stands. I will also add in, that the Department of Defense will do whatever the current administration tells them to do. Im pretty sure they came out with a study how a LGBT Battalion would do against an opposing battalion of strawberry covered unicorns.
 
woodsman said:
I will also add in, that the Department of Defense will do whatever the current administration tells them to do. Im pretty sure they came out with a study how a LGBT Battalion would do against an opposing battalion of strawberry covered unicorns.
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Sure, but the DoD was reporting to the White House on this under the Bush administration as well.

Frankly, I'd be curious to see how insurance companies are interpreting the data. Actuaries don't give a damn about politics. :)
 
MorrisDay said:
I don't mind reasonable pollution controls but I can't help to wonder if the earth has been warming......since the Ice Age.
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I definitely agree on pollution control, but not with claiming CO2 as a pollutant.

Also... it must be enforced on all countries, or it is meaningless.
 
Fenton said:
2/3 of Americans want to turn all of America into the Liberal economic and financial basket case that is California ??

To fix a crisis that doesn't exist ?

I highly doubt it.
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I'll bet the 2/3rds number is as real as the 97% number...
 
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