A US congressional panel has described the killing of Armenians by Turkish forces during World War I as genocide, despite White House objections.
The resolution was narrowly approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.
Turkey, a key US ally, responded by recalling its ambassador in Washington for consultations. It has fiercely opposed the non-binding resolution.
The White House had warned that the vote would harm reconciliation talks between Turkey and Armenia.
The resolution calls on President Barack Obama to ensure that US foreign policy reflects an understanding of the "genocide" and to label the World War I killings as such in his annual statement on the issue.
It was approved by 23 votes to 22 by the committee.
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So....how long ago was that now? Why are we worrying about something like this now? Done deal, it's in the past. We're not passing resolutions against Germany for their actions during WW II still, are we? Then why pass them against Turkey for their actions in WW I? Doesn't make sense.
Ikari said:So....how long ago was that now? Why are we worrying about something like this now? Done deal, it's in the past. We're not passing resolutions against Germany for their actions during WW II still, are we? Then why pass them against Turkey for their actions in WW I? Doesn't make sense.
So....how long ago was that now? Why are we worrying about something like this now? Done deal, it's in the past. We're not passing resolutions against Germany for their actions during WW II still, are we? Then why pass them against Turkey for their actions in WW I? Doesn't make sense.
BBC News - US Congress panel accuses Turkey of Armenian 'genocide'
Someone get Turkey a WHHAAAAAMBULLLAAAANCE.
It's incredible that they still deny this genocide. I don't really understand their point, they say that "it was under the ottoman empire so it's not our fault" or simply "it did not happen"?
So when they shut down Incirlik airbase, close their airspace to Iraq flights, and make access to Afghanistan even more difficult, it will be worth the inconvenience?
Germany admitted its crimes, erected monuments in remembrance of it, continues to teach its children about them and has paid reparations to victims and some of their relatives.
Turkey has done none of this and in addition to that denies that even happened.
Imagine if you saw the German chancellor come out and say that the Holocaust never happened...
And I gotta say, love the attitude about "it's in the past, so who gives a damn".
I didn't know that any of the above countries deny known misdeeds.What about Japan then? They've done some bad thing. Have the English admitted to all the bad stuff they did as an Empire? Have we apologized for the American Indians? And all the countries we've ****ed over and up with black ops?
It's incredible that they still deny this genocide. I don't really understand their point, they say that "it was under the ottoman empire so it's not our fault" or simply "it did not happen"?
I didn't know that any of the above countries deny known misdeeds.
Please provide a basis.
I want to see the articles where any of the previous post's mentioned nations have denied that they have taken such misdeeds.Japan hasn't owned up to hardly any of the crap it did against China. Italy hasn't apologized for the misdeeds of the Roman Empire. Since we're digging up things from long ago. Though Japan's actions against China weren't so long ago; but both sides did atrocious things to the other and each side believes themselves justified in it.
Is not the Ottoman Empire different government from the current Turkey government? Or can we hold all present day governments responsible for the actions of Empires of old?
It's not saying that it didn't happen or not acknowledging the act. But at some point I think the statute of limitations have hit and you cannot condemn and hurt a people over stuff they did not do. I think this has more to do with their current desire of getting into the EU than anything else.
He should be proud of the congress, Clinton and Obama have tried to silence the congress down and to prevent the decision from being brought to light.For my understanding its not that the Congress accused the current Turkish goverment in the Ottoman empire's wrong doing, they simply decleared they recognize the fact that the Armenians were being genocide by Turks in WWI. Not many countries did so until present day and you should be proud that your goverment isn't motivated by politics when it comes to facing history's known facts.
I want to see the articles where any of the previous post's mentioned nations have denied that they have taken such misdeeds.
For my understanding its not that the Congress accused the current Turkish goverment in the Ottoman empire's wrong doing, they simply decleared they recognize the fact that the Armenians were being genocide by Turks in WWI. Not many countries did so until present day and you should be proud that your goverment isn't motivated by politics when it comes to facing history's known facts.
Do they, or do they not deny that such actions have occurred?I want to see articles where they have apologized for any of those misdeeds. Also, did we get an apology for the Spanish Inquisition?
Timing? What are you talking about?What's really happening? Why is it now and why is it Turkey? The timing is suspicious.
Do they, or do they not deny that such actions have occurred?
It's great that you wish to increase your knowledge by debating on issues you have no knowledge on, but please do your homework before making such statements.I don't see Turkey denying that the actions took place. Just that they took place under the Ottoman Empire and thus modern Turkey had nothing to do with it.
[ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial_of_the_Armenian_Genocide]Denial of the Armenian Genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]The Republic of Turkey (as well as modern Azerbaijan[4]) does not accept that the Ottoman authorities attempted to exterminate the Armenian people.[5] Turkey acknowledges that during World War I many Armenians died, but counters that Turks died as well, and claims that the number of Armenian victims have been inflated, and that massacres were committed by both sides as a result of inter-ethnic violence and the wider conflict of World War I.[5] The denial of the Armenian Genocide is often identified by genocide scholars and historians as a crucial symbolic and ideological process which follows every genocide and which is intended to desensitize and to make possible the emergence of new forms of genocidal violence in the future.
Yeah, poor USA what will we do when our "allies" turn on us? You know what we do? We tell Turkey to **** off then, no more money or support of any kind from us.So when they shut down Incirlik airbase, close their airspace to Iraq flights, and make access to Afghanistan even more difficult, it will be worth the inconvenience?
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