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Tulsi Gabbard, Who Ran for 2020 Democratic Nomination, Endorses Trump Against Former Foe Harris

MrNiceGuy said:
Oh, yes, I do. Lemmings.
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And who are the lemmings that support Gabbard? How do they vote? How many of them are there?

MrNiceGuy said:
Harris' supporters follow the CNN and MSDNC line and they were told Harris was an issue and possibly needed to be replaced not too many months ago, and now they are being told she's god's gift to the world, a bundle of joy, and so eminently qualified... you know, the most qualified candidate we've had in our generation..... blah blah blah. Manufactured Consent, per Noam Chomsky.
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Superfly said:
Well @Taylor never gave me cited sources, so I’ll move on down the line.

Can you back up this claim with valid, cited sources? Real sources. Not the MyPillowGuy’s blog.
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As if it would matter.
MrNiceGuy said:
evidence?
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If these reports are true, that Iran is funding the leftist pro-palestinan protestors and Russia is funding environmental and anti-fracking, anti-petroleum type groups, they are obviously trying to help the "left" (aka democrats). Those positions are 180 from the Republicans.


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More specifically, Haines says, “In recent weeks, Iranian government actors have sought to opportunistically take advantage of ongoing protests regarding the war in Gaza, using a playbook we’ve seen other actors use over the years. We have observed actors tied to Iran’s government posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protesters.” (Emphasis added)


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently said the same thing, telling a joint meeting of Congress “we all know Iran is funding the anti-Israel protests that are going on right now outside this building,” and warning pro-Palestinian protesters “you have officially become Iran’s useful idiots.”


For example, scholars at the Wilfried Martens Centre for European Studies published a 2016 paper titled “The Bear in Sheep’s Clothing: Russia’s Government-Funded Organizations in the EU.” They provided evidence that Russia funded several advocacy groups in Europe to sway public opinion, especially against domestic oil production and fracking. The reason is that prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Europe was a major purchaser of Russian-produced oil and natural gas. To the extent Europe produced more of its own oil and gas, it would buy less from Russia.


There are suspicions that Russia has been doing the same thing in the U.S.: that is, funneling money to U.S. environmental advocacy organizations that were working to limit or end the production of oil and natural gas and especially fracking in the states. "
 
Cardinal said:
And who are the lemmings that support Gabbard? How do they vote? How many of them are there?
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People who support Gabbard generally have put more thought into their ideas. They are a minority, because the majority of Democrats just follow what the media tells them to think. If the media and the DNC pushed Gabbard, all the lemmings on the left here would be singing her praises. Too many people do not think for themselves. If you look at her voting record when she was in Congress, she did not generally support Trump. She had her own mind. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/tulsi-gabbard/ (ask yourself what are the key areas where she crossed over to support Trump -- The National Defense Authorization Act and the US-Mexico Free Trade Agreement - those were the only controversial areas where she agreed with Trump and Democrat Establishment disagreed with Trump). She was attacked by Hillary Clinton and falsely accused of being a "Russian asset" because Tulsi was opposing the war machine. Atter Hillary lied about Tulsi to paint her with the evidence-free "tool of Russia" bullshit, Tulsi pointed out that Clinton was the queen of the warmongers. So Hillarly Clinton and the Democrat machine sank Gabbard's career in politics with smears and propaganda. The Democrat machine is a ruthless gang of monstrous warmongers -- controlled by the military industrial complex. They lie about anyone who would hint at standing in the way of the lucrative nation-building contracts resulting from these proxy wars.



She's not running for anything. Give her a listen, in her own words. Tell me, even if you disagree with her positions, whether she sounds like the evil Russian asset you are being told by the DNC controlled media. You know, she voted straight along Democrat lines when she was in Congress. The only real departures were when she opposed the defense authorization acts, because she opposes wars of choice.
 
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MrNiceGuy said:
People who support Gabbard generally have put more thought into their ideas.
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Just say in one simple, short sentence how many supporters she has. An approximate guess is enough, followed by why you think it's about that number. I don't need any of this nonsense you keep posting.

MrNiceGuy said:
They are a minority, because the majority of Democrats just follow what the media tells them to think. If the media and the DNC pushed Gabbard, all the lemmings on the left here would be singing her praises. Too many people do not think for themselves. If you look at her voting record when she was in Congress, she did not generally support Trump. She had her own mind. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/tulsi-gabbard/ (ask yourself what are the key areas where she crossed over to support Trump -- The National Defense Authorization Act and the US-Mexico Free Trade Agreement - those were the only controversial areas where she agreed with Trump and Democrat Establishment disagreed with Trump). She was attacked by Hillary Clinton and falsely accused of being a "Russian asset" because Tulsi was opposing the war machine. Atter Hillary lied about Tulsi to paint her with the evidence-free "tool of Russia" bullshit, Tulsi pointed out that Clinton was the queen of the warmongers. So Hillarly Clinton and the Democrat machine sank Gabbard's career in politics with smears and propaganda. The Democrat machine is a ruthless gang of monstrous warmongers -- controlled by the military industrial complex. They lie about anyone who would hint at standing in the way of the lucrative nation-building contracts resulting from these proxy wars.
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Cardinal said:
Just say in one simple, short sentence how many supporters she has.
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I don't know how many supporters she has. Where do you find data on the number of supporters a person. When she was running, she averaged around 2 to 4% and up to 6%, depending on the survey. But, there isn't any sort of a poll now that the media is doing to find out how many people are changing a vote to Trump because of Tulsi Gabbard.
Cardinal said:
An approximate guess is enough, followed by why you think it's about that number. I don't need any of this nonsense you keep posting.
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Even a 1% bump could tilt the election.

I don't care what you "need." But you asked me who the people are that support her, so I gave you an attempted answer to explain what kind of person supports Tulsi Gabbard. You should actually take time to listen to what she has to say, from her own mouth and not from your propaganda outlets. You believe nothing but nonsense.
 
TamleeB said:
Why is she a “traitor”? Can you please offer specifics? I have little to no doubt IF she was supporting Harris, you would be on board.
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Well she just endorsed an insurrectionist and bag of shit. That means she's the same as him now, just a turd. One that needs flushed.

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So now with RFK Jr and Tulsi on board, it’s not just “Weird and Weirder” any more. It’s “Weird, Weirder, Weirdest and Cuckoo”.

Gonna be tough to fit all that on a bumper sticker
 
Juggernaut74 said:
So now with RFK Jr and Tulsi on board, it’s not just “Weird and Weirder” any more. It’s “Weird, Weirder, Weirdest and Cuckoo”.

Gonna be tough to fit all that on a bumper sticker
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LOL - Cuckoo, you say? you must think opposing Donald Trump on all but a few issues is cuckoo, then -- https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/tulsi-gabbard/

What in the world is "cuckoo" about Tulsi Gabbard? Make your argument.

Or is this another one of those Progressive BS "whoever I'm told to oppose by the propaganda media I'll call weird and cuckoo....?" LOL, silly question. The Progressives and Harris supporters have nothing. Just insults and dopey commentary. Such wretched hive of scum and villainy. The Democrap Party is a caricature of itself. A band of douchebags.
 
Cardinal said:
Then her endorsement means nothing.
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News flash.... there is no tracking system to track the number of people who "support" a person who endorses a candidate.

Your opinions mean nothing, because they are just trite and glib nonsense.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
News flash.... there is no tracking system to track the number of people who "support" a person who endorses a candidate.
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What that should tell you is that her support is so negligible as to be statistically unmeasurable. That's why her endorsement doesn't matter.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
LOL - Cuckoo, you say? you must think opposing Donald Trump on all but a few issues is cuckoo, then -- https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/tulsi-gabbard/

What in the world is "cuckoo" about Tulsi Gabbard? Make your argument.

Or is this another one of those Progressive BS "whoever I'm told to oppose by the propaganda media I'll call weird and cuckoo....?" LOL, silly question. The Progressives and Harris supporters have nothing. Just insults and dopey commentary. Such wretched hive of scum and villainy. The Democrap Party is a caricature of itself. A band of douchebags.
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You sound upset. I recommend a nice long bath and cup of tea.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Harris is the war candidate, for sure. The Democrat Party has been taken over by the neocons, which is why y'all now fully embrace the Bush doctrine. You are supporting the party of the military industrial complex. https://chrishedges.substack.com/p/the-democrats-are-now-the-war-party
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Find a reputable source please to verify the above bolded claim, and format it correctly so I can reply directly please.
Btw, not giving my email address to read the Intercept articles. Also not accepting a source with a clickbait title - "The Rotten Alliance of Liberals and Neocons Will Likely Shape U.S. Foreign Policy for Years to Come" - from an essayist/political pundit.

Snap 2024-08-27 at 10.55.10.webp
 
SuperDS77 said:
As if it would matter.


If these reports are true, that Iran is funding the leftist pro-palestinan protestors and Russia is funding environmental and anti-fracking, anti-petroleum type groups, they are obviously trying to help the "left" (aka democrats). Those positions are 180 from the Republicans.


"
More specifically, Haines says, “In recent weeks, Iranian government actors have sought to opportunistically take advantage of ongoing protests regarding the war in Gaza, using a playbook we’ve seen other actors use over the years. We have observed actors tied to Iran’s government posing as activists online, seeking to encourage protests, and even providing financial support to protesters.” (Emphasis added)


Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu recently said the same thing, telling a joint meeting of Congress “we all know Iran is funding the anti-Israel protests that are going on right now outside this building,” and warning pro-Palestinian protesters “you have officially become Iran’s useful idiots.”


For example, scholars at the Wilfried Martens Centre for European Studies published a 2016 paper titled “The Bear in Sheep’s Clothing: Russia’s Government-Funded Organizations in the EU.” They provided evidence that Russia funded several advocacy groups in Europe to sway public opinion, especially against domestic oil production and fracking. The reason is that prior to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Europe was a major purchaser of Russian-produced oil and natural gas. To the extent Europe produced more of its own oil and gas, it would buy less from Russia.


There are suspicions that Russia has been doing the same thing in the U.S.: that is, funneling money to U.S. environmental advocacy organizations that were working to limit or end the production of oil and natural gas and especially fracking in the states. "
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I asked you for a valid source. You gave me an opinion piece, and your very first line says, “If these reports are true …”

Do you have a valid source? Not an opinion piece - an actual sourced article?
 
Superfly said:
I asked you for a valid source. You gave me an opinion piece, and your very first line says, “If these reports are true …”

Do you have a valid source? Not an opinion piece - an actual sourced article?
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Would it give you pause if it (that Iran, China and Russia prefer Harris) were true?
 
SuperDS77 said:
Would it give you pause if it (that Iran, China and Russia prefer Harris) were true?
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Again - I don’t deal with opinions or opinion pieces.

If you can give me a cited, valid source to back up your claims, I’ll read it.

Then we can continue this discussion.
 
Superfly said:
I asked you for cited academic sources. Not your opinion.

Please give me cited, valid sources, or retract your bullshit.
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Sorry you have trouble thinking for yourself. Not my problem.
 
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