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Tulsi Gabbard Is Put on A Government Watch List for A Very Bizarre Reason

Lutherf said:
Right. Put them all under surveillance until they do something we can prosecute them for! It's the only way to save democrac.
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I’m proud to know that my portrait is in the possession of the FBI.
There was a radical book shop in my hometown, the Feds made it very obvious that they were taking photos of anyone entering the store. I don’t recall the exact name, but it included Danial Sheas in the name. Also at at least one anti war protest. I prob’ly have a political file in DC. 😇
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Yup, the right wing equivalent of MSNBCNN viewers.
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A clearly false assertion.

The level of bias on CNN doesn’t come close to that on Fox. MSNBC is a better example however, both are far more trustworthy sources for factual reporting.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
A clearly false assertion.
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Clearly true. You see it on these boards, where they will reject verifiable, corroborated facts unless it's reported on their approved source. They also parrot whatever is said on MSNBCNN, like someone was just referring to Tulsi Gabbard as "compromised by Russia," which one can only believe if one is in the brainwashed camp of MSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPo, camp. That's where those lies spew from, along with lies like the Covington Catholic kids, the Racist Rittenhouse, the Trump says Nazis are good people, the Trump created a "Muslim Ban" and the list goes on and on and on. It's that brainwashing that causes the Progressives here to believe those things.
RaleBulgarian said:
The level of bias on CNN doesn’t come close to that on Fox. MSNBC is a better example however, both are far more trustworthy sources for factual reporting.
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Oh, yes it does. It most certainly does, and in fact CNN and MSNBC both have fewer right wing voices than Fox has left wing voices on their programs. If you watch CNN on any news item, you will see they always frame issues in a way that is as favorable as they can to Democrats and Joe Biden. CNN was the media outlet that referred to Ivermectin as Horse Paste, and accused Joe Rogan of all sorts of things when he discussed his doctor prescribed medical regimen for covid, and they even doctored his photograph so he appeared ashen and sickly when he was not. CNN was also the network of "fiery but mostly peaceful" when they reported on cities all over the US being ransacked and riots like crazy in 2020. They over and over reported on Biden as being sharp and focused and called criticisms of Biden as "cheapfakes." The list goes on and on.

Neither CNN and MSNBC are trustworthy. At. All.
 
RaleBulgarian said:
A clearly false assertion.

The level of bias on CNN doesn’t come close to that on Fox. MSNBC is a better example however, both are far more trustworthy sources for factual reporting.
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Bias isn’t as scary as lies. I don’t fear a biased pundit unpacking real news from a biased perspective. I know that their lean is included in their overall speech. Maybe something is left out. Etc. Yet the basic facts are unharmed.
 
trixare4kids said:
That's not what you wrote though.
Superfly said:
I think the Feds should be monitoring this place, to be honest.

Your goal post shift is pretty telling though. Own what you wrote and explain to us why you honestly think the Feds should be monitoring this place.
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Anyone who believes Trump's lies in direct contradiction of the findings of the bi-partisan SSCI with regard to his and his campaign's cooperation with the Russian government in the 2016 election is appropriately monitored as a counter intelligence subject of interest, not to mention a susceptible mark of Trump's culting.

Links between Trump associates and Russian officials - Wikipedia

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Counterintelligence | Federal Bureau of Investigation

The FBI is the lead agency for exposing, preventing, and investigating intelligence activities, including espionage, in the U.S.
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MrNiceGuy said:
Clearly true. You see it on these boards, where they will reject verifiable, corroborated facts unless it's reported on their approved source. They also parrot whatever is said on MSNBCNN, like someone was just referring to Tulsi Gabbard as "compromised by Russia," which one can only believe if one is in the brainwashed camp of MSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPo, camp. That's where those lies spew from, along with lies like the Covington Catholic kids, the Racist Rittenhouse, the Trump says Nazis are good people, the Trump created a "Muslim Ban" and the list goes on and on and on. It's that brainwashing that causes the Progressives here to believe those things.

Oh, yes it does. It most certainly does, and in fact CNN and MSNBC both have fewer right wing voices than Fox has left wing voices on their programs. If you watch CNN on any news item, you will see they always frame issues in a way that is as favorable as they can to Democrats and Joe Biden. CNN was the media outlet that referred to Ivermectin as Horse Paste, and accused Joe Rogan of all sorts of things when he discussed his doctor prescribed medical regimen for covid, and they even doctored his photograph so he appeared ashen and sickly when he was not. CNN was also the network of "fiery but mostly peaceful" when they reported on cities all over the US being ransacked and riots like crazy in 2020. They over and over reported on Biden as being sharp and focused and called criticisms of Biden as "cheapfakes." The list goes on and on.

Neither CNN and MSNBC are trustworthy. At. All.
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MSNBC has Joe Scarborough a former R congressman, Nicole Wallace an aid to Dubya. Many NeverTrumpers who are often called to give opinion, former congressman Jolly R Fla,
R lawyer George Conway, so many I can’t recall their names. 😇 Rarely a MAGA will accept an invite & there the ones who won’t take a breath & will talk over the host.
 
Has the clickbait reason Gabbard ended up on the watchlist been revealed?
Or are we still in cliffhanger mode?

Is the reason Gabbard ended up on the watchlist in anyway similar to the reasons why too many innocent people end up on the watchlist?
(including infants - dangerous, radical infants)
 
Trix said:
"That's not what you wrote though.
Superfly said:
I think the Feds should be monitoring this place, to be honest.
Trix said:
Your goal post shift is pretty telling though. Own what you wrote and explain to us why you honestly think the Feds should be monitoring this place."


I cannot answer for @Superfly, but I find many suspicious people here. I don't mean people who are suspicious of others (although I see them, too). (Some of those people are actually downright paranoid.)

I mean I see people who act suspiciously. People who do things that secret agents might do. The only solution (besides reporting these people to the FBI) is to PM @RedAkston with all the things you see them doing. He likes to keep an eye on the suspicious people on DP. I think he also likes to receive informative PMs.
 
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NewfieMom said:
I cannot answer for @Superfly, but I find many suspicious people here. I don't mean people who are suspicious of others (although I see them, too). (Some of those people are actually downright paranoid.)

I mean I see people who act suspiciously. People who do things that secret agents might do. The only solution (besides reporting these people to the FBI) is to PM @RedAkston with all the things you see them doing. He likes to keep an eye on the suspicious people on DP. I think he also likes to receive informative PMs.
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He favors Donald J Trump politically.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
One, she's not running for anything right now.
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Irrelevant. The thread is about her, remember?

MrNiceGuy said:
Two, there is not now and never has been any evidence that Tulsi Gabbard was "compromised by Russia." To suggest it is just making things up. But, that's how it goes with the Russia crowd.

So what are you even talking about?
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Then she has nothing to worry about, unless this was all made up for attention.


MrNiceGuy said:
For what?

That is it that you think people are doing here that is illegal?
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I don’t know. I’m not a Fed, but I’m not the only one who is concerned about certain posters here. Social media can be a breeding ground for certain troublesome behaviors.

All social media is monitored. All social media. If you don’t believe that, you probably also believe that your phone is turned off … when it’s turned off.
 
trixare4kids said:
That's not what you wrote though.
Superfly said:
I think the Feds should be monitoring this place, to be honest.

Your goal post shift is pretty telling though. Own what you wrote and explain to us why you honestly think the Feds should be monitoring this place.
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See the above post. I didn’t shift anything.

There are troublesome behaviors here.

That’s all you’ll get from me, and you’re lucky you got that.
 
NewfieMom said:
Trix said:
"That's not what you wrote though.
Superfly said:
I think the Feds should be monitoring this place, to be honest.
Trix said:
Your goal post shift is pretty telling though. Own what you wrote and explain to us why you honestly think the Feds should be monitoring this place."


I cannot answer for @Superfly, but I find many suspicious people here. I don't mean people who are suspicious of others (although I see them, too). (Some of those people are actually downright paranoid.)

I mean I see people who act suspiciously. People who do things that secret agents might do. The only solution (besides reporting these people to the FBI) is to PM @RedAkston with all the things you see them doing. He likes to keep an eye on the suspicious people on DP. I think he also likes to receive informative PMs.
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This. You gave her far more than I’m willing to give, because I don’t generally like to waste my time with people who can’t be reached, but yes. There are troublesome behaviors here. There are troublesome behaviors all across social media. The Feds would be remiss not to monitor the sites.
 
L88 said:
Well since the Bob Menendez affair, maybe all of Congress should be on a watchlist.
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Our vaunted and honorable "intelligence community" has already been caught bugging Senate offices, and lying about it under oath before Congress.

But, hey, challenging the "intelligence community" nowadays makes one a "Putin Pal" and his "butt buddy."
 
NewfieMom said:
@MrNiceGuy , I just want to remind you that you have to answer a posting I made in response to you in another thread. It may be great fun to engage in a fight about Tulsi Gabbard, but I had a serious problem with how you handled talking about Vice President Harris in another thread and you have not, yet, replied to that.
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I just want to remind you that there is a post where I asked you some follow-up inquiry about your attack on me. I had a serioius problem with how you handled talking about the issue of jokes about VP Harris in that thread, and you have not, yet, replied to that.
 
MrNiceGuy said:
Clearly true. You see it on these boards, where they will reject verifiable, corroborated facts unless it's reported on their approved source. They also parrot whatever is said on MSNBCNN, like someone was just referring to Tulsi Gabbard as "compromised by Russia," which one can only believe if one is in the brainwashed camp of MSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPo, camp. That's where those lies spew from, along with lies like the Covington Catholic kids, the Racist Rittenhouse, the Trump says Nazis are good people, the Trump created a "Muslim Ban" and the list goes on and on and on. It's that brainwashing that causes the Progressives here to believe those things.
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Rambling opinion noted.
MrNiceGuy said:
Oh, yes it does. It most certainly does, and in fact CNN and MSNBC both have fewer right wing voices than Fox has left wing voices on their programs. If you watch CNN on any news item, you will see they always frame issues in a way that is as favorable as they can to Democrats and Joe Biden. CNN was the media outlet that referred to Ivermectin as Horse Paste, and accused Joe Rogan of all sorts of things when he discussed his doctor prescribed medical regimen for covid, and they even doctored his photograph so he appeared ashen and sickly when he was not. CNN was also the network of "fiery but mostly peaceful" when they reported on cities all over the US being ransacked and riots like crazy in 2020. They over and over reported on Biden as being sharp and focused and called criticisms of Biden as "cheapfakes." The list goes on and on.

Neither CNN and MSNBC are trustworthy. At. All.
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Wrong.

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Trust in Media 2024: Which news sources Americans trust — and which they think lean left or right | YouGov

Democrats and Republicans find some common ground on business-focused news sources, but hold vastly different opinions on other sources, including the two used most often: CNN and Fox News.
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MrNiceGuy said:
Our vaunted and honorable "intelligence community" has already been caught bugging Senate offices, and lying about it under oath before Congress.

But, hey, challenging the "intelligence community" nowadays makes one a "Putin Pal" and his "butt buddy."
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Further, the CIA was engaged in overtly manipulating elections, we now find out:

Judicial Watch: FOIA Lawsuit Emails Show CIA Rushed Approval of Infamous Hunter Laptop Letter by 51 Former Intel Officials Before Election​
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it received eight pages of records from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) showing Mike Morell, former acting CIA director under President Obama, requesting CIA permission to publish a letter by former intelligence community leaders stating that they believed the laptop emails exposing Hunter Biden’s connections to Ukraine were Russian disinformation. Morrell’s request for prepublication review was approved in just six hours by the CIA.​
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Judicial Watch forced the release of material through a June 23, 2023, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed after the CIA failed to respond to a May 11, 2023, request (Judicial Watch v. Central Intelligence Agency (No. 1:23-cv-01844)). Judicial Watch is asking for:​
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Records and communications of the Prepublication Classification Review Board, Central Intelligence Agency, including emails, email chains, email attachments, text messages, cables, voice recordings, correspondence, statements, letters, memoranda, reports, presentations, notes, or other form of record, regarding an October 19, 2020, email request to review and “clear” a letter involving the Hunter Biden laptop story potentially having Russian involvement or being a Russian disinformation plot.​
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“This is a rush job, as it needs to get out as soon as possible,” Morell wrote in an email on Monday, October 19, 2020, at 6:36 a.m., to the CIA’s Publications Classification Review Board (PCRB) with a copy to Marc Polymeropoulos, a former CIA senior intelligence officer.​
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This was five days after the New York Post published an article on the Hunter Biden emails, three days before a Donald Trump/Joe Biden debate, and 15 days before the presidential election.​
www.judicialwatch.org

Judicial Watch: FOIA Lawsuit Emails Show CIA Rushed Approval of Infamous Hunter Laptop Letter by 51 Former Intel Officials Before Election - Judicial Watch

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it received eight pages of records from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) showing Mike Morell, former acting CIA director under President Obama, requesting CIA permission to publish a letter by former intelligence community leaders...
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Yes, election manipulation, as:

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.​
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A similar percentage also said they’re convinced that information on the computer is real, with just 11% saying they thought it was “created by Russia,” according to the survey conducted by the New Jersey-based Technometrica Institute of Policy and Politics.​
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And an even higher number — 81% — said US Attorney General Merrick Garland should appoint a special counsel to investigate matters related to the first son’s infamous laptop, the existence of which was exclusively revealed by The Post in October 2020.​
nypost.com

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election

Among Republicans, 57% were strongly convinced Trump would have won, compared to 48% of independents and just 44% of Democrats.
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eohrnberger said:
Further, the CIA was engaged in overtly manipulating elections, we now find out:

Judicial Watch: FOIA Lawsuit Emails Show CIA Rushed Approval of Infamous Hunter Laptop Letter by 51 Former Intel Officials Before Election​
(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it received eight pages of records from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) showing Mike Morell, former acting CIA director under President Obama, requesting CIA permission to publish a letter by former intelligence community leaders stating that they believed the laptop emails exposing Hunter Biden’s connections to Ukraine were Russian disinformation. Morrell’s request for prepublication review was approved in just six hours by the CIA.​
​
Judicial Watch forced the release of material through a June 23, 2023, Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit filed after the CIA failed to respond to a May 11, 2023, request (Judicial Watch v. Central Intelligence Agency (No. 1:23-cv-01844)). Judicial Watch is asking for:​
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Records and communications of the Prepublication Classification Review Board, Central Intelligence Agency, including emails, email chains, email attachments, text messages, cables, voice recordings, correspondence, statements, letters, memoranda, reports, presentations, notes, or other form of record, regarding an October 19, 2020, email request to review and “clear” a letter involving the Hunter Biden laptop story potentially having Russian involvement or being a Russian disinformation plot.​
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“This is a rush job, as it needs to get out as soon as possible,” Morell wrote in an email on Monday, October 19, 2020, at 6:36 a.m., to the CIA’s Publications Classification Review Board (PCRB) with a copy to Marc Polymeropoulos, a former CIA senior intelligence officer.​
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This was five days after the New York Post published an article on the Hunter Biden emails, three days before a Donald Trump/Joe Biden debate, and 15 days before the presidential election.​
www.judicialwatch.org

Judicial Watch: FOIA Lawsuit Emails Show CIA Rushed Approval of Infamous Hunter Laptop Letter by 51 Former Intel Officials Before Election - Judicial Watch

(Washington, DC) – Judicial Watch announced today that it received eight pages of records from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) showing Mike Morell, former acting CIA director under President Obama, requesting CIA permission to publish a letter by former intelligence community leaders...
www.judicialwatch.org

Yes, election manipulation, as:

Nearly four of five Americans who’ve been following the Hunter Biden laptop scandal believe that “truthful” coverage would have changed the outcome of the 2020 presidential election, according to a new poll.​
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A similar percentage also said they’re convinced that information on the computer is real, with just 11% saying they thought it was “created by Russia,” according to the survey conducted by the New Jersey-based Technometrica Institute of Policy and Politics.​
​
And an even higher number — 81% — said US Attorney General Merrick Garland should appoint a special counsel to investigate matters related to the first son’s infamous laptop, the existence of which was exclusively revealed by The Post in October 2020.​
nypost.com

79% say ‘truthful’ coverage of Hunter Biden’s laptop would have changed 2020 election

Among Republicans, 57% were strongly convinced Trump would have won, compared to 48% of independents and just 44% of Democrats.
nypost.com nypost.com
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Got any reliable/verifiable sources, or just shitty far right ones like above?
 
eohrnberger said:
Court documents and CIA emails and memos obtained via FOIA aren't 'verifiable sources' to you?
Well, you do you.
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Me doing “me”, is utilizing known/proven credible and verifiable sources that are more about reporting objective facts, and less about inventing propaganda to suit their own goals.

To each their own. You’re welcome to continuing doing you.
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Founded in 1994 by Larry Klayman, Judicial Watch (JW) is an American conservative activist group that files Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuits to investigate government officials’ alleged misconduct. They primarily target Democrats such as the Clinton’s, Obama, and climate scientists as they label climate science “fraud science.” Judicial Watch has made numerous false and unsubstantiated claims, with a “vast majority” of their lawsuits dismissed. They describe themselves as “a conservative, non-partisan educational foundation that promotes transparency, accountability, and integrity in government, politics, and the law.” The current President of JW is Tom Fitton.

Analysis / Bias​

Judicial Watch reports news on their website using strong emotional language, usually pro-right or anti-left. Typical topics covered are anti-immigration, in which they highlight crimes committed by illegal immigrants, such as this: Busy Month for Illegal Immigrants Committing Heinous Crimes or dedicating an entire website to exposing former President Obama’s alleged IRS scandal.

They have also promoted debunked conspiracy theories such as this. Further, the founder of JW, Larry Klayman, recently promoted the conspiracy that the Clintons were killing people. Finally, they routinely promote conspiracy theories claimed by Former President Trump that are usually debunked. See failed fact checks below. Generally, most content and story selection is anti-left and not always factual.






Failed Fact Checks​

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Judicial Watch – Bias and Credibility

QUESTIONABLE SOURCE A questionable source exhibits one or more of the following: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no
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RaleBulgarian said:
Got any reliable/verifiable sources, or just shitty far right ones like above?
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Judicial Watch and NYPost are "shitty far right sources?" Dude, you can't just go by what your shitty far left sources say.
 
eohrnberger said:
Court documents and CIA emails and memos obtained via FOIA aren't 'verifiable sources' to you?
Well, you do you.
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Not if Joy Reid and Rachel Maddow don't tell him to believe them. Otherwise, it's Putin's Pal's and his butt buddies up to their old tricks....
 
jpevans said:
MSNBC has Joe Scarborough a former R congressman, Nicole Wallace an aid to Dubya. Many NeverTrumpers who are often called to give opinion, former congressman Jolly R Fla,
R lawyer George Conway, so many I can’t recall their names. 😇 Rarely a MAGA will accept an invite & there the ones who won’t take a breath & will talk over the host.
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That has been the case for some years now. Ever since Rand Paul was being interviewed byRachel Maddox, and he blurted out that he would support gutting the Civil Rights Act. The question she asked was completely open ended. He blabbed, but he wasn’t trapped into it.

Years later, Rudy Guliani blurted out the scheme to blackmail Zelinsky into opening a bogus investigation into Hunter Biden.

In 2021 Peter Navarro blabbed the “Green Bay sweep” Jan6th coup plot on live tv.
 
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