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The Transportation Security Administration stood by its security officers Sunday after a Florida woman complained that her cancer-stricken, 95-year-old mother was patted down and forced to remove her adult diaper while going through security.
Reports of the incident took hold in social media, with scores of comments on the topic and reposts appearing hourly on Twitter Sunday afternoon.
The TSA released a statement Sunday defending its agents' actions at the Northwest Florida Regional Airport.
These are their procedures. The daughter even said herself in the interview I understand these are their procedures. Again, is this the best way to run airport security? No, it isn't. Israel's way of interviewing people and profiling (not racially profiling, but actually looking at people and saying, OK, this guy needs some extra screening, then talking to them, you can find a NY Daily News article where the guy, a white christian, says he gets put in the extra interview all the time) works great, but unfortunately that isn't applicable to the US, where thousands of flights go everyday. Israel has what? 50? This is the best solution we have in our current situation. You can all flip out and this will get its 15 minutes of fame tomorrow with all the "**** tsa man mah rights is violated kill tyrannical government" but in the end, this is how things are done.
I agree Israel knows what they are doing far better than our out of touch with reality approach, that looks for things not motivated people, which are the problem.
You mean three bowls of pot or was that a typo? :wink:Well, 6 posts to get to idiotic over the top hyperbole in a TSA thread. Perhaps we're actually improving. Usually the ridiculousness and exaggeration only takes what, 3 pots?
Since when do idiotic procedures and the excuse "I was simply following orders" fail to encompass the stupidity of the procedure or order? We've been at that failure for quite a while.The person followed procedures. Yes, the procedure needs to give more leeway on the part of the screeners to use their judgement in these kind of situations. At the same time, as you do that you then have people who then that the "judgement" is being employed unfairly or unevenly causing another big hubub. The TSA is right in defending their person, as they were simply following orders.
Sometimes hyperbole is used to define and criticize the stupidity as well as to frame HOW stupid the procedure already is. It's a tactic to frame the discussion and point out how ridiculous, childish and over the top the stupid procedure is - a tit for tat so to speak. Politics, comedy, satire and other forms of communication lend itself to that criticism. Instead of criticizing the hyperbolic criticism - perhaps it's more useful to address WHY the hyperbole is being used. Perhaps it's being used because reason and common sense has not been used where the procedure and "I was just following orders" is concerned.There's nothing wrong with critizicing the procedure, but the more over the top idiotic hyperbole people use frankly the more childish and ridiculous their argument looks and the less serious anyone should take them.
Ok. I was fairly supportive of the TSA when all this nonsense started. I officially take back my support.
Patting down 6 yr old girls and 95 yr old cancer patients?
Really?
End the pat dows, use the xrays and new scanners on everyone, no choice given.
ends the 'he touched my junk' stuff.
Yeah but then you still have the idiots who think the machines will give them cancer even though their cell phone has a bigger chance of doing that.
You mean three bowls of pot or was that a typo? :wink:
Since when do idiotic procedures and the excuse "I was simply following orders" fail to encompass the stupidity of the procedure or order? We've been at that failure for quite a while.
Sometimes hyperbole is used to define and criticize the stupidity as well as to frame HOW stupid the procedure already is.
;1059599460 said:Well, 6 posts to get to idiotic over the top hyperbole in a TSA thread. Perhaps we're actually improving. Usually the ridiculousness and exaggeration only takes what, 3 pots?
The person followed procedures. Yes, the procedure needs to give more leeway on the part of the screeners to use their judgment in these kind of situations. At the same time, as you do that you then have people who then that the "judgment" is being employed unfairly or unevenly causing another big hubub. The TSA is right in defending their person, as they were simply following orders. There's nothing wrong with criticizing the procedure, but the more over the top idiotic hyperbole people use frankly the more childish and ridiculous their argument looks and the less serious anyone should take them.
Ok. I was fairly supportive of the TSA when all this nonsense started. I officially take back my support.
Patting down 6 yr old girls and 95 yr old cancer patients?
Really?
End the pat dows, use the xrays and new scanners on everyone, no choice given.
ends the 'he touched my junk' stuff.
Right...because groping a 2 year old child or making a 95 year old cancer patient remove an adult diaper isn't 'over the top' and ridiculous.
I'm wondering... has a 90+ year old, in the entirety of human history, ever been used as an international terrorist? I'm not saying it's not possible... just not probable.
Oh look, shocker of schockers, vance continues with hyperbole.
Want to discuss it at a reasonable and adult level, I'd be happy to.
And yeah, I know the spell checker thing. Navy Pride had auto-spell correct on for a bit and we were very confused at first why he was randomly always calling me names by refering to me as Syphilis until the spell-check thing was discovered. lol
Is the TSA there looking for terrorists, or illegal activity?
Not asking for what the propogandized purpose pushed by the Bush Administration and now the Obama Administration is, I'm asking in reality.
Is the TSA there looking for terrorists, or illegal activity?
Not asking for what the propogandized purpose pushed by the Bush Administration and now the Obama Administration is, I'm asking in reality.
This is part of what makes me chuckle. When this first started up, and by this I mean TSA, people complained about how hands on they were, how long it took, and whined about why we couldn't just have technology that could speed it all up.
Now we're getting technology that can take care of a lot of it with the body scanner, the ETD sniffers, the metal detectors, etc that for most people would be able to streamline the process and people are complaining and opting for more hands on things that take longer and slow down the process.
I don't get people sometimes.
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