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americanwoman said:
So you agree the OP is kind of silly for being supposedly forced to get a vaccine in a “free” society before any mandate. Would you give up your freedom to make a choice where there are no laws or mandates just because someone is forcing you to do it? I wouldn’t because as you say we are adults in a free society.
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He was forced given an urgent circumstance, and that's a significant difference. You clearly don't know his circumstance.. Regardless, I suspect you'd rush across that crosswalk. It's why I have faith in Americans, even if you'd deny it. Thanks!!
 
Logophile said:
Yours has to be the stupidest, most callous and possibly the most disgusting post I've ever seen here. I suspect you will be reminded of it in the days ahead. Thanks!!
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You should read posts from Paradoxical and his ilk... :unsure:

The fact is soooo few have had adverse reactions to the vaccine it isn't a show stopper. If someone has a qualm about vaccines then research is in order. I did mine and one key fact, I never had an adverse reaction to any vaccine prior. Didn't for these two either.

I'm not callous, just not going to let one supposed bad experience allow someone to whine about 'Poison'... ✌️
 
Logophile said:
He was forced given an urgent circumstance, and that's a significant difference. You clearly don't know his circumstance.. Regardless, I suspect you'd rush across that crosswalk. It's why I have faith in Americans, even if you'd deny it. Thanks!!
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He is a she... (y)
 
Logophile said:
He was forced given an urgent circumstance, and that's a significant difference. You clearly don't know his circumstance.. Regardless, I suspect you'd rush across that crosswalk. It's why I have faith in Americans, even if you'd deny it. Thanks!!
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She knew the circumstance, having been over it ad nauseam in previous threads. She enjoys being annoying.
 
notquiteright said:
You should read posts from Paradoxical and his ilk... :unsure:

The fact is soooo few have had adverse reactions to the vaccine it isn't a show stopper. If someone has a qualm about vaccines then research is in order. I did mine and one key fact, I never had an adverse reaction to any vaccine prior. Didn't for these two either.

I'm not callous, just not going to let one supposed bad experience allow someone to whine about 'Poison'... ✌️
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You DON'T KNOW how many had adverse reactions! You only know what you hear from Fauci and the CDC and mainstream news. You want to have blind faith, fine, but don't pretend you know anything aside from propaganda.
 
notquiteright said:
You should read posts from Paradoxical and his ilk... :unsure:

The fact is soooo few have had adverse reactions to the vaccine it isn't a show stopper. If someone has a qualm about vaccines then research is in order. I did mine and one key fact, I never had an adverse reaction to any vaccine prior. Didn't for these two either.

I'm not callous, just not going to let one supposed bad experience allow someone to whine about 'Poison'... ✌️
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That was a personal comment he/she made. To make it insignificant to the point of sneering is repugnant by any reasoned standard. To not even acknowledge another's personal experience, to void it without any attempt to understand or sympathize is not worthy of an ethical adult.
Thanks!!
 
Good4Nothin said:
You DON'T KNOW how many had adverse reactions! You only know what you hear from Fauci and the CDC and mainstream news. You want to have blind faith, fine, but don't pretend you know anything aside from propaganda.
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Actually every state keeps track of such things and then reports to the CDC so there is no massive Federal cover-up, that's the goo of MAGA lies... :unsure:

Where the blind faith comes in are the Anti-Vs who reject vaccines and the research that went into their production (been decades of that) and embrace Krack-pot snake oil from silver drinks to horse wormer... :rolleyes:

Ok, not blind faith, more like stupid... ✌️
 
Logophile said:
That was a personal comment he/she made. To make it insignificant to the point of sneering is repugnant by any reasoned standard. To not even acknowledge another's personal experience, to void it without any attempt to understand or sympathize is not worthy of an ethical adult.
Thanks!!
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Good4Nothin said:
And that is critical to know, why?
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Just pointing out Logophile seemed to not bothered reading your posts very thoroughly- the info is right there every time you post. That might mean not paying much attention to what we post... :unsure:

It's indictive, not critical- there is a difference... ✌️
 
Logophile said:
That was a personal comment he/she made. To make it insignificant to the point of sneering is repugnant by any reasoned standard. To not even acknowledge another's personal experience, to void it without any attempt to understand or sympathize is not worthy of an ethical adult.
Thanks!!
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I have come to expect that from the extreme pro-vaxxers. Vaccines are like a religion to them.
 
notquiteright said:
Actually every state keeps track of such things and then reports to the CDC so there is no massive Federal cover-up, that's the goo of MAGA lies... :unsure:

Where the blind faith comes in are the Anti-Vs who reject vaccines and the research that went into their production (been decades of that) and embrace Krack-pot snake oil from silver drinks to horse wormer... :rolleyes:

Ok, not blind faith, more like stupid... ✌️
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Decades of research on gene therapy, which failed, leading up to genetic vaccines, which failed, until, supposedly, recently.

Medical doctors are discouraged from saying anything critical of the vaccines. And many of them are brainwashed by pro-vaxxers. If a patient has strange symptoms following a vaccine, it can always be written off as coincidence.

There are MANY informal reports by patients and doctors. I have posted this one, for example, several times in this thread:

How concerned are you about adverse events related to the vaccines?

www.medscape.com www.medscape.com

And by the way, I am talking about the covid vaccines, NOT vaccines in general.
 
notquiteright said:
Just pointing out Logophile seemed to not bothered reading your posts very thoroughly- the info is right there every time you post. That might mean not paying much attention to what we post... :unsure:

It's indictive, not critical- there is a difference... ✌️
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It only matters if for some reason you think a person's gender is relevant to their opinions on covid vaccines. I can't see why it would be. Maybe he was interested in the ideas, not the gender.
 
lurchadams said:
Prime examples of anti-vaxxers. This is who you're throwing your lot in with. Are you sure you want to do this? Get the shot!

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By your "logic," we should form our beliefs based on who believes what. So if Hitler believed that grass is green, we should believe grass is red.
 
Good4Nothin said:
By your "logic," we should form our beliefs based on who believes what. So if Hitler believed that grass is green, we should believe grass is red.
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What did your own family doctor say to you about the vaccine? The argument I was making is that anti-vaxxers look like idiots. My support were those video clips. My "logic", therefore was flawless. Thank you for pointing that out.

Now answer the question - Did you speak with your family doctor about the vaccine and what did they say?
 
lurchadams said:
What did your own family doctor say to you about the vaccine? The argument I was making is that anti-vaxxers look like idiots. My support were those video clips. My "logic", therefore was flawless. Thank you for pointing that out.

Now answer the question - Did you speak with your family doctor about the vaccine and what did they say?
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If I had a family doctor, why would I unthinkingly accept their opinion about the vaccines? That would be ONE person's opinion. And it would NOT be a vaccine expert. I know how to read. I get varied opinions from many different experts, and I also consider personal experiences to be a valid source of information.

Having a family doctor is not a substitute for educating yourself about and taking responsibility for your own health.
 
Good4Nothin said:
If I had a family doctor, why would I unthinkingly accept their opinion about the vaccines? That would be ONE person's opinion. And it would NOT be a vaccine expert. I know how to read. I get varied opinions from many different experts, and I also consider personal experiences to be a valid source of information.

Having a family doctor is not a substitute for educating yourself about and taking responsibility for your own health.
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Ok. I'll answer your first question and then I'll move on. When you speak with your family doctor and undergo a treatment the doctor is recommending - I don't understand why you're characterizing that process as "doing it unthinkingly". You follow your doctor's advice, because he or she has been taking care of you and your kids for decades and so hopefully you have built trust with this person and therefore trust that he or she has your best interest at heart.

That's my answer. Thank you very much for answering mine, you're the first of actually 5 or 6 people bashing the vax who's been courageous enough to answer!
 
Good4Nothin said:
www.medpagetoday.com

Would an 'Immunity' Mandate Instill More Public Confidence?

Biden's sweeping vaccine mandates will only further erode public trust
www.medpagetoday.com www.medpagetoday.com
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Does one need to trust the government in order to want a vaccine mandate? I mean I want one and I don't particularly trust the government. But my belief in the vaccines has very little to do with what the government says or does. The science shows that the vaccines are effective, and I'm very much ready to put covid behind me.
 
notquiteright said:
You should read posts from Paradoxical and his ilk... :unsure:

The fact is soooo few have had adverse reactions to the vaccine it isn't a show stopper. If someone has a qualm about vaccines then research is in order. I did mine and one key fact, I never had an adverse reaction to any vaccine prior. Didn't for these two either.

I'm not callous, just not going to let one supposed bad experience allow someone to whine about 'Poison'... ✌️
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One thing I know for sure, I look at the subgroup of people. I look at the rich and powerful. I see the vast majority of them are getting vaccinated. If you think the rich and powerful are going to risk their skins if the vaccine is that unsafe, you are wrong.
 
lurchadams said:
Ok. I'll answer your first question and then I'll move on. When you speak with your family doctor and undergo a treatment the doctor is recommending - I don't understand why you're characterizing that process as "doing it unthinkingly". You follow your doctor's advice, because he or she has been taking care of you and your kids for decades and so hopefully you have built trust with this person and therefore trust that he or she has your best interest at heart.

That's my answer. Thank you very much for answering mine, you're the first of actually 5 or 6 people bashing the vax who's been courageous enough to answer!
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If I had a doctor who recommended an experimental genetically engineered drug I would get OTHER OPINIONS!!!!
 
AJG said:
Does one need to trust the government in order to want a vaccine mandate? I mean I want one and I don't particularly trust the government. But my belief in the vaccines has very little to do with what the government says or does. The science shows that the vaccines are effective, and I'm very much ready to put covid behind me.
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"THE SCIENCE" doesn't show what you think it does. What is "THE SCIENCE" anyway? You obviously have no idea.
 
Good4Nothin said:
If I had a doctor who recommended an experimental genetically engineered drug I would get OTHER OPINIONS!!!!
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Ok, ma'am. I understand you feel you know better than doctors and scientists. Thanks again, and have a wonderful evening.
 
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