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Trust God and call it a day? I saw that bumper sticker this morning. I think it's stupid. How about trust yourself instead?

redbeer said:
(Job 38:31) Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


If you are familiar with a few constellations I can show you a sign in the stars which bear witness to Jesus. They've been there long before he was born. Find Orion, Hyades, and the Pleiades constellations in the night sky, they are mostly wintertime constellations.

They will represent the Last Supper......Pleiades a smaller cup opening up one direction, the belt of Orion forming the base to a larger cup opening up the other direction, the giant V seen between these two is the Hyades, part of Taurus....this is the breaking of unleavened bread.

You will see these three align in a straight line, with one cup before supper (Pleiades), the V (Hyades), and the cup after supper (Orion), the cups opening to opposing directions. Now find the star Rigel in Orion, keeping in mind the cup.....this forms the head of a cross coming from one of the belt stars....look, it's there. This cup catches the blood of Christ and as it rises and makes it's way across the sky it is spilling the blood over the earth.

There is more here also, but if you are serious take some time and see this sign, but for now this should suffice. Imagine this, God has arranged stars literally trillions and trillions of miles away from each other and us, but from this vantage point shout their testimony of Jesus. They have always been there.

Make fun, write it off as silly, but more than likely there will be no response proving your search for proof is a crock. You have been showed where to look, go prove me wrong.
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Now you are really reaching, find god in the stars, oh boy.
 
Mulefoot said:
Someone wasn't paying attention in Catholic school. Or worse, maybe he was.
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I paid attention alright, if not the nuns would get your attention with a ruler or pointer. They'll beat God into you, like it or not. I didn't like it so I stopped buying into the bullshit.
 
Logician Man said:
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Logician Man said:
When the Biblical God created the universe, did He know He would perpetrate the Great Flood upon mankind? Yes or No?

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@Daisy/Elora said:
No

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Logician Man said:
So is the answer to the OP question Yes or No, for clarification. I believe you said "no."

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@Daisy/Elora said:
No, He did not foresee in advance...
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God can see the future on odd days but not the even ones. I guess daisy wants it both ways, he can see into the future and he can't, take your pick.
 
bongsaway said:
Sorry, but that sounds crazy to me even after ten years of catholic scschool.
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That's because it is crazy.
bongsaway said:
King James? What happened to the original Bible, the old testament, too violent? Solution, invent a newer, kinder god. Get a better car.
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God did need a makeover between testaments to improve his public image.
bongsaway said:
So let me get this correctly, Satan is the ruler of the world God created. How did that happen, why did your all powerful God allow it to happen?
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If it was part of some "plan," it's not a great plan. If not, then go's is too impotent to do anything.
 
Gordy327 said:
That's because it is crazy.

God did need a makeover between testaments to improve his public image.

If it was part of some "plan," it's not a great plan. If not, then go's is too impotent to do anything.
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God's makeover is the new testament. When these folks reference 'the bible' I wish they would also say which Bible. I thought the old testament was 'the bible'?
 
bongsaway said:
Now you are really reaching, find god in the stars, oh boy.
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They are a sign in the stars which bear witness to Jesus. Positioned in the sky many, many years 'before' Christ which stand for the only thing we are to do in his remembrance. Only the Creator could perform this......but I figured as much. You asked and when given, have no thought of proving me wrong, just hot air bloviating to see proof and when given want nothing to do with it.
 
bongsaway said:
God's makeover is the new testament. When these folks reference 'the bible' I wish they would also say which Bible. I thought the old testament was 'the bible'?
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They tend to pick and choose whatever suits their narrative. Old, New, it's all the same BS to me.
 
redbeer said:
They are a sign in the stars which bear witness to Jesus. Positioned in the sky many, many years 'before' Christ which stand for the only thing we are to do in his remembrance. Only the Creator could perform this......but I figured as much. You asked and when given, have no thought of proving me wrong, just hot air bloviating to see proof and when given want nothing to do with it.
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Only the creator? You have a closed mind. When god supposedly created the heavens and the earth, we had no idea of what 'the heavens' even meant. This all sounds like hoodoo voodoo to me. Believing in all powerful invisible entities that seem to do nothing. To each their own I guess. Personally, I take responsibility for my actions, I don't blame gods and Satan for what I do.
 
bongsaway said:
Only the creator? You have a closed mind. When god supposedly created the heavens and the earth, we had no idea of what 'the heavens' even meant. This all sounds like hoodoo voodoo to me. Believing in all powerful invisible entities that seem to do nothing. To each their own I guess. Personally, I take responsibility for my actions, I don't blame gods and Satan for what I do.
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Neither do I....you were given proof/evidence and it only takes a little bit of effort to see, even pinpointing you in the exact position of the skies....it's not hard to see when one knows where to look. I can't force you nor will I, but it's there to go see......prove me wrong.
 
redbeer said:
Neither do I....you were given proof/evidence and it only takes a little bit of effort to see, even pinpointing you in the exact position of the skies....it's not hard to see when one knows where to look. I can't force you nor will I, but it's there to go see......prove me wrong.
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What proof/evidence would that be? Be specific!
 
bongsaway said:
As an adult do you not know the difference between right and wrong? Does a book have to tell you? What's with this belief in an all powerful imaginary being that is invisible? To my knowledge not a person has proved this entity even exists yet I'm told my many I should ask for forgiveness from this invisible entity and then worship said entity?

Sorry, but that sounds crazy to me even after ten years of catholic school.
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One thing's for sure: we can no longer trust many of our fellow Americans to have our backs.
 
redbeer said:
(Job 38:31) Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


If you are familiar with a few constellations I can show you a sign in the stars which bear witness to Jesus. They've been there long before he was born. Find Orion, Hyades, and the Pleiades constellations in the night sky, they are mostly wintertime constellations.

They will represent the Last Supper......Pleiades a smaller cup opening up one direction, the belt of Orion forming the base to a larger cup opening up the other direction, the giant V seen between these two is the Hyades, part of Taurus....this is the breaking of unleavened bread.

You will see these three align in a straight line, with one cup before supper (Pleiades), the V (Hyades), and the cup after supper (Orion), the cups opening to opposing directions. Now find the star Rigel in Orion, keeping in mind the cup.....this forms the head of a cross coming from one of the belt stars....look, it's there. This cup catches the blood of Christ and as it rises and makes it's way across the sky it is spilling the blood over the earth.

There is more here also, but if you are serious take some time and see this sign, but for now this should suffice. Imagine this, God has arranged stars literally trillions and trillions of miles away from each other and us, but from this vantage point shout their testimony of Jesus. They have always been there.

Make fun, write it off as silly, but more than likely there will be no response proving your search for proof is a crock. You have been showed where to look, go prove me wrong.
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18th Dynasty. Therefore, Ptah is the creator of the universe.
 
redbeer said:
Neither do I....you were given proof/evidence and it only takes a little bit of effort to see, even pinpointing you in the exact position of the skies....it's not hard to see when one knows where to look. I can't force you nor will I, but it's there to go see......prove me wrong.
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Believe what you wish, just stop insisting I have to believe what you do.
 
bongsaway said:
I paid attention alright, if not the nuns would get your attention with a ruler or pointer. They'll beat God into you, like it or not. I didn't like it so I stopped buying into the bullshit.
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Stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. To go thru catholic school and still ask for evidence on where Jesus' body is buried is probably typical.

Catholic school is to Christianity, as Trump University is to a career in real estate.
 
redbeer said:
Think......speaking to some about faith in God is like talking to a holocaust denier. Both of them will 'never' believe.
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Denying reality is not the equivalent of believing in the imaginary. Reality doesn’t require belief. Imaginary things do.
 
redbeer said:
(Job 38:31) Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?

(Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:


If you are familiar with a few constellations I can show you a sign in the stars which bear witness to Jesus. They've been there long before he was born. Find Orion, Hyades, and the Pleiades constellations in the night sky, they are mostly wintertime constellations.

They will represent the Last Supper......Pleiades a smaller cup opening up one direction, the belt of Orion forming the base to a larger cup opening up the other direction, the giant V seen between these two is the Hyades, part of Taurus....this is the breaking of unleavened bread.

You will see these three align in a straight line, with one cup before supper (Pleiades), the V (Hyades), and the cup after supper (Orion), the cups opening to opposing directions. Now find the star Rigel in Orion, keeping in mind the cup.....this forms the head of a cross coming from one of the belt stars....look, it's there. This cup catches the blood of Christ and as it rises and makes it's way across the sky it is spilling the blood over the earth.

There is more here also, but if you are serious take some time and see this sign, but for now this should suffice. Imagine this, God has arranged stars literally trillions and trillions of miles away from each other and us, but from this vantage point shout their testimony of Jesus. They have always been there.

Make fun, write it off as silly, but more than likely there will be no response proving your search for proof is a crock. You have been showed where to look, go prove me wrong.
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Read tea leaves too or is this more a rorschach test result?
 
gboisjo said:
Thankfully our constitution put limits on religion.

Without it we would more than likely be subjugated by religious zealots always seeking more power and control.

Not unlike Sharia Law in the Middle East.

First and foremost the US keeps this crap out of our schools, away from the harm it would otherwise cause..
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True Christians do not want control of anything in this world...they're waiting for Jehovah God to act in that dept...
 
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