Trump's message to the Proud boy's and white supremacists... (1 Viewer)

[Gondwanaland]

When you condemn some thing as bad as white supremacists in a way that they put your words up in their social media. You really are not condemning anything. He's just giving the cult a sliver of cover to hide behind.

Last I checked, the most prominent white supremacist in the US has endoresed Obama.

But thank you for making it clear that even the most clear, direct, statement of condemnation by Trump would not be accepted by you, meaning you and your ilk are indeed not coming from a place of an honest request.

 

[beefheart]

Uh, the founder of the group is a virulent anti-semite, if you haven't figured that out yet....

Maybe the words "hate about Jews" got past you.

You decide whether you think these are your kind of "good people" https://www.adl.org/resources/backgrounders/proud-boys-0

While the Proud Boys often publicly denounce white supremacy, their activity has attracted white supremacists who share the group’s opposition to progressive politics and proclivity for violence. The Proud Boys participated in the 2017 protests at the University of California-Berkeley, alongside a variety of white supremacist groups, including Rise Above Movement (R.A.M), Identity Evropa (now the American Identity Movement, or AIM) and the Traditionalist Worker Party (TWP). Similarly, members of Identity Evropa/AIM and TWP have joined Proud Boys and fellow right-wing group Patriot Prayer events in Portland. One man, wearing a patch for the Proud Boys-associated Fraternal Order of Alt Knights (FOAK), attended the October 2017 neo-Nazi “White Lives Matter’ rally in Shelbyville, Tennessee. During the rally, he taunted the counter-protesters by destroying an antifa flag. Members of the Proud Boys also attended the violent August 2017 “Unite the Right” white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia. They later circulated an image of themselves in a celebratory pose with a flag they “captured” from antifa. In October 2018, Proud Boys posed with members of the 211 Bootboys, an ultranationalist skinhead group, after McInnes’ speech at the Metropolitan Republican Club in New York City.

McInnes also has a long history with racism not confined to his repeated use of the N-word. He once called African-American actress Jada Pinkett Smith “that monkey actress,” and on an episode of the Gavin McInnes Show on Compound Media he said that “We’re the new n***ers. MAGA is the new black." McInnes declared on March 8, 2017, “If you like Trump, you are a black man in 1945 trying to have water at a liberal fountain.”

Although McInnes has decried racism and anti-Semitism, his past statements tell a different story. He has posted videos of himself giving the Nazi salute and repeatedly saying “Heil Hitler.” He was accused of anti-Semitism in March 2017 when he posted a video on Rebel Media called “Ten Things I Hate about Jews,” which was later retitled “Ten Things I Hate About Israel.”

McInnes has made a number of contradictory statements about Zionism. Prior to his spring 2017 trip to Israel, McInnes appeared in a Rebel Media video in which he asked people to crowdfund his trip to Israel so he could see what the country was like for himself; however, in that same video, he referenced both “The Culture of Critique,” by white supremacist Kevin MacDonald, and David Duke’s book “Jewish Supremacism.” It was during this trip that McInnes appears to have had somewhat of an anti-Semitic awakening. On his show on March 8, 2017, McInnes muses that Jews were somehow responsible for World War II because “the Treaty of Versailles, wasn’t that disproportionately influenced by Jewish intellectuals?” He also defended Holocaust deniers and neo-Nazis, saying, “Like at one point, the tour guide goes, ‘You know, and there are people who think that this didn’t happen.’ And I felt myself defending the super-far-right Nazis, just because I was sick of so much brainwashing. And I felt like going, ‘Well, they never said it didn’t happen. What they’re saying is that it was much less than six million and that they starved to death and they weren’t gassed.” Then he finishes his train of thought with some thoughts about Jews’ “obsession” with the Holocaust. “God, they’re so obsessed with the Holocaust. I don’t know if it’s healthy to dwell.”


At another point McInnes said: “Jews: If you don’t want to get people mad, don’t be annoying.”

 

[Gimmesometruth]

That's nice for the FBI.

First, I note white nationalism =/= white supremacy

FIRST I NOTE THAT IS STUPID, SIMPLISTIC DENIALISM, FURTHER IT HAS NO BASIS, NO DEFINING.

Second, if they're white supremacists, their the most piss poor white supremacists I've ever seen.

Their leader is Afro-Cuban.

Gavin McInnes IS NOT "CUBAN-AFRO"

One of their most prominent members is American Samoan.

NAMELESS

There are countless other men of color who are members.

APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW THEM PERSONALLY

Third, who was it reported by that the FBI did this? Both your links do not go to any place sourcing this claim of yours.

OH, IS THIS THE PART WHERE YOU DEMAND LINKS? AFTER MAKING BASELESS CLAIMS ABOUT SOME IMAGINED DIFFERENCE BETWEEN W-N VS W-S?

LOL!

NOT TO MENTION COMPLETELY GLOSSING OVER THE POINT, THE ORANGE ASSHOLE DID NOT CONDEMN OR DENOUNCE THEM, BUT TOLD THEM TO PREPARE.....IN THE TRANSCRIPT ALREADY PROVIDED.

YOUR WHATABOUTS ARE GOING TO BE IGNORED.

 

[beefheart]

Warning.....language is NSFW!

 

[Gondwanaland]

Uh, the founder of the group is a virulent anti-semite, if you haven't figured that out yet....

Maybe the words "hate about Jews" got past you.

He's a political provocateur and is a former founder of the group.

But I take your silence as your admittance that they have not denied the holocaust (despite your previous claims made without evidence) and have not chanted 'Jews will not replace us' (also, despite your previous claims made without evidence).

You decide whether you think these are your kind of "good people"

SNipped, as it is irrelevant, as I have never called anyone 'good people'

 

[NWRatCon]

The Gestapo always claimed they were not Nazis up to the point they put a bullet in you.

 

[Gondwanaland]

Gavin McInnes IS NOT "CUBAN-AFRO"

Gavin McInnes is not the leader of their group. You've failed to do even basic research. He's a former founder (i.e. no longer a member of the group).

Enrique Tarrio is the leader of their group:


He is Afro-Cuban (not cuban afro, which would likely be a hairstyle).

The member known as Tiny is one of the most prominent brawlers in their group.
A nickname, of course (as he's anything but Tiny) - his real name is Tusitala Toese, and he's American Samoan.


(oh, look at that, a black Proud Boy right behind him as well!)


If these are 'white supremacists' they're the worst bloody ones I've ever seen in my life.

 

[Mashmont]

Trump is the candidate for the white supremacists and nazi's and the garbage and slime that has come out from under the rocks.

America is better than this, they will turn out to vote this assclown out.

You buy the stupidest Marxist talking points.
Out of over 12,000 arrests during riots follow George Floyd, only four have been Proud Boys members. Yet the left doesn't focus on the thousands of Antifa and BLM thugs who have been arrested. Just the hand full of Proud Boys.

 

[Mashmont]

Gavin McInnes is not the leader of their group. You've failed to do even basic research. He's a former founder (i.e. no longer a member of the group).

Enrique Tarrio is the leader of their group:

He is Afro-Cuban (not cuban afro, which would likely be a hairstyle).

The member known as Tiny is one of the most prominent brawlers in their group.
A nickname, of course (as he's anything but Tiny) - his real name is Tusitala Toese, and he's American Samoan.

(oh, look at that, a black Proud Boy right behind him as well!)


If these are 'white supremacists' they're the worst bloody ones I've ever seen in my life.

So a handful out of 12,000 arrests. Why aren't the leftwing hypocrites focusing on the nearly 12,000 leftists?

 

[Rexedgar]

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He's a political provocateur and is a former founder of the group.

But I take your silence as your admittance that they have not denied the holocaust (despite your previous claims made without evidence) and have not chanted 'Jews will not replace us' (also, despite your previous claims made without evidence).



SNipped, as it is irrelevant, as I have never called anyone 'good people'

McInnes sure has come right up to the line, if not crossing it......

Proud Boys Founder Recorded Video Titled '10 Things I Hate About The Jews'

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes defended Holocaust deniers in an anti-Semitic rant from 2017.

www.newsweek.com

I’m sure there were no Proud Boys in the Charlottesville torch light parade......

Proud Boys founder disavows violence at Charlottesville but one of its members organized the event

Jason Kessler, who described dead counter-protestor Heather Heyer as a "fat, disgusting Communist," was filmed being initiated into the Proud Boys.

archive.thinkprogress.org

“....a fraternal organization, just like the Elks........”

 

[Dayton3]

Donald Trump - America’s first Nazi President.

Utterly ridiculous. Nazis don't exist as a serious political force anymore.

 

[Gondwanaland]

McInnes certainly has gone up to the line, if not over it..



McInnes sure has come right up to the line, if not crossing it......

Proud Boys Founder Recorded Video Titled '10 Things I Hate About The Jews'

Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes defended Holocaust deniers in an anti-Semitic rant from 2017.

www.newsweek.com

That's sort of how he makes his money - coming up to the line and even crossing it. But again, nothing there supports the claim that was made about the group.

I’m sure there were no Proud Boys in the Charlottesville torch light parade......

Proud Boys founder disavows violence at Charlottesville but one of its members organized the event

Jason Kessler, who described dead counter-protestor Heather Heyer as a "fat, disgusting Communist," was filmed being initiated into the Proud Boys.

archive.thinkprogress.org

“....a fraternal organization, just like the Elks........”

Former member. He left due to ideological differences (namely, he was a racist, they weren't)

 

[Mashmont]

Stand back. Stand by.

The phrase is taking off on twitter. It appears they heard him.
Thoughts?

You do know Twitter is populated by a lot of Soros-paid leftwing activists and bots, don't you?

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Gavin McInnes is not the leader of their group. You've failed to do even basic research. He's a former founder (i.e. no longer a member of the group).

Enrique Tarrio is the leader of their group:

He is Afro-Cuban (not cuban afro, which would likely be a hairstyle).

The member known as Tiny is one of the most prominent brawlers in their group.
A nickname, of course (as he's anything but Tiny) - his real name is Tusitala Toese, and he's American Samoan.

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(oh, look at that, a black Proud Boy right behind him as well!)


If these are 'white supremacists' they're the worst bloody ones I've ever seen in my life.

HENRY TARRIO IS NOTHING MORE THAT A FALSE FRONT LEADER, PB IS STILL A WHITE SUPREMACIST ORGANIZATION FOLLOWING MciNNES'S IDEOLOGY.

I USED TO WORK WITH A GUY IN SAN DIEGO WHO WAS HISPANIC... THAT INSISTED HE WAS WHITE.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?

I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO SHOW ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHITE SUPREMACY AND WHITE NATIONALISM.

AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT THE ORANGE ASSHOLE DID NOT DENOUNCE THEM LIVE AND UNSCRIPTED, HE INSTEAD TOLD THEM TO PREPARE.

 

[Rexedgar]

That's sort of how he makes his money - coming up to the line and even crossing it. But again, nothing there supports the claim that was made about the group.


Former member. He left due to ideological differences (namely, he was a racist, they weren't)

Just a bunch of good old boys that get together and drink beer and swear off of self-abuse........alcohol and boners, what’s not to like?

 

[Jean-s]

At least he didn't call for them to standby. The Proud Boys is just the Antifa of the right.

What does Stand Back Standby mean?

 

[Ikari]

What does Stand Back Standby mean?

Pretty much wait, you'll be needed in the future.

 

[Jean-s]

Pretty much wait, you'll be needed in the future.

Thanks. I get it. But does Donald Trump know this? I hate to think he knows more than me. Ha!

 

[Rexedgar]

Pretty much wait, you'll be needed in the future.

This afternoon, Trump said “stand down.” Same feeling as after Helsinki, when Trump said he substituted ”would” for ”wouldn’t!”

 

[iguanaman]

You do know Twitter is populated by a lot of Soros-paid leftwing activists and bots, don't you?

So now we should believe your conspiracy theories and not our own eyes and ears? No thanks

 

[Gimmesometruth]

That's sort of how he makes his money - coming up to the line and even crossing it. But again, nothing there supports the claim that was made about the group.


Former member. He left due to ideological differences (namely, he was a racist, they weren't)

Tarrio told Heavy that under his leadership the group will “not change what we do.”

 

[Gimmesometruth]

What does Stand Back Standby mean?

It is a military term meaning to prepare for an order.

 

[beefheart]

He's a political provocateur and is a former founder of the group.

But I take your silence as your admittance that they have not denied the holocaust (despite your previous claims made without evidence) and have not chanted 'Jews will not replace us' (also, despite your previous claims made without evidence).



SNipped, as it is irrelevant, as I have never called anyone 'good people'

You are dismissed, you lose.

Go hang out with these cretins, tell me what kind of swell guys they are.

 

[beefheart]

Utterly ridiculous. Nazis don't exist as a serious political force anymore.

Says the guy with the nazi avatar...

 

[Gimmesometruth]

Utterly ridiculous. Nazis don't exist as a serious political force anymore.

NAZI's don't exist as a political party, fascism still does exist as an abhorrent, illiberal ideology.