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Trump Walks Out of Border Talks, Calls Them ‘Total Waste of Time’

Lindsey Graham's "super DACA" (S.1615 - Dream Act of 2017 and its House twin H.R.3440) bill was never going to pass and contained no Great Wall Of Trump funding - it was cobbled together simply as a negotaiting tool.

Maybe not specifically -- but the 25 billion funding for security was part of a wall payment, no?
 
I don't have one little bit of sympathy for lefties trying to gripe about the cost. The left have never cared about spending 77 billion dollars so I'm tired of hearing the violins playing. The left are totally fine with spending 77 billion on anything they want to spend 77 billion on so it has absolutely nothing to do with the cost. Actually, I see the wall paying for itself. Anyone who makes it into our country costs us food, housing, processing costs, free healthcare, etc. We need to stop people from getting here in the first place so we don't have to apprehend them. That saves billions and billions of dollars.

So when libs spend, it's end of the world horrific. When Repugs spend, it's perfectly fine. Got it.
 
They are a total waste of time. Trump just needs to open the government back up, blame it on the Dems, and say he is bigger than the Dems. Then he needs to declare a national emergency and build the wall - screw the left who have no interest in border security at all. I just read today that both California and New York City want to bring on single payer healthcare and specifically include illegals. And they want us to believe they are interested in border security.

What gibberish is this? We want single payer to lower costs and provide better options for ourselves. Do we want to exclude undocumented workers to make white morons happy? No. Why would we want people running around sick when we can heal them? I swear, you people just hate other people too much, it gets old reading the same tripe over and over again. Grow up.
 
They are a total waste of time. Trump just needs to open the government back up, blame it on the Dems, and say he is bigger than the Dems. Then he needs to declare a national emergency and build the wall - screw the left who have no interest in border security at all. I just read today that both California and New York City want to bring on single payer healthcare and specifically include illegals. And they want us to believe they are interested in border security.


Dems are very much into Border Security. Illegal immigration has gone way way down over the last decade or so due to border security improvements.

But, you'll swallow the right wing memes every time they toss it it out, like red meat to hyenas, no doubt.

He can declare whatever he wants, but you can't redirect money from Military to other things without going through the house appropriation committee, which I think is headed by Debbie Wasserman, so good luck with that.

Moreover, Trump has weakened his argument for declaring an emergency with many tweets, videos, etc., there is no way this wall is going to be built.
 
Actually thats a hellava an idea.

Re open not to concede but on principle.

Then declare the emergency.... lets face it its "becoming" a crisis. But not in the way we want it to be.

2 children died due to medical deficiencies.
2 Adults killed by illegals

thats 4 deaths in a matter of a month ALL due to the actions of an Illegal NOT by Trump or a wall.

if the Illegals did NOT commit an illegal act all 4 would likely still be alive? Fact check that? If the 2 children did NOT make the border trek would they or would the not be alive right now?

If the 2 illegals 1 that murder an LEO and the other a DRUNK DRIVER did not get INTO the US would these 2 victims likely be alive.

This is whats in the damn news what is NOT being covered is whats worse........Yes it is becoming a crisis, creating discord in our government, our people and a humanitarian issue at our borders.


Native born American citizens commit more crimes per capita than undocs. This is a specious argument.
 
Drugs cost the US $155 Billion a year.

We MAKE money with a wall.


The vast majority of illegal drunks arrive via ports of entry.

Wall won't stop that.
 
Lotsa drugs being backpacked across the Rio Grande, you figger? Billions and billions of bucks worth?


DHS own data sez most drugs come through ports of entry, hidden in vehicles.
 
Only cause California was so lopsided. But so what he won on the rule of the game. And now he is not supposed to do what he campaigned to do?


Last time I checked, Californians are American citizens, too. one person, one vote.
 
From Trump's point of view, he was willing to negotiate. They weren't.

"I asked what is going to happen in 30 days if I quickly open things up, are you going to approve Border Security which includes a Wall or Steel Barrier? Nancy said, NO. I said bye-bye, nothing else works!” - Trump


Well, Trump's point of view is usually twisted and not based on reality.

"My way or the high way" is what Trump is doing. That is not negotiating.

Besides, he's pegging the wall to the shutdown.

Dems are not going to negotiate with a hostage taker. If they did, he would just do it again every time he whines and doesn't get his way. There is NO WAY they will give in, for that reason.
 
Well, Trump's point of view is usually twisted and not based on reality.

"My way or the high way" is what Trump is doing. That is not negotiating.

Besides, he's pegging the wall to the shutdown.

Dems are not going to negotiate with a hostage taker. If they did, he would just do it again every time he whines and doesn't get his way. There is NO WAY they will give in, for that reason.

What part of Nancy saying "No" do you not understand. The Dems aren't going to negotiate with Trump. Period.
 
If you invite someone to your office to make a business deal...and they flat out say no...the meeting is over.

Ever heard of a counter offer?

Trump did none of that.
 
Only cause California was so lopsided. But so what he won on the rule of the game. And now he is not supposed to do what he campaigned to do?

He's had two years to fulfill campaign promises when his party controlled the whole federal government. Why did he wait until the Republicans lost the house and then demand the Democrats fulfill his promises for him?
 
If you invite someone to your office to make a business deal...and they flat out say no...the meeting is over.

And that's the Art of The Deal. Gimme what I want. No? We're done.
 
Ever heard of a counter offer?

Trump did none of that.

Trump proposed multiple offers. Chuck and Nancy made only one offer: Fund the government and no money for a wall.
 
There is a problem at the border

We do not let enough immigrants in

You are right. Too many illegal lawless losers from a few ****hole countries are coming into our country instead of law abiding immigrants form all over the world.
 
Trump bragged about that wall during the campaign. He got total control of the government for two years. Nothing happened about the wall. Why? Because he was either too stupid to use his power or he knew it was not going to pass even with his butt buddies in charge. So now he can blame the left for something he could never do regardless. If you conservatives cannot see the con here, I wonder how in the hell you function in society. My lord, this is like a game of three card Monty.
 
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