Trump to deploy National Guard in response to Los Angeles immigration protests

[trumptman]

It is the first time since 1965 that a president has activated a state’s National Guard force without a request from that state’s governor, according to Elizabeth Goitein, senior director of the Liberty and National Security Program at the Brennan Center for Justice, an independent law and policy organization. The last time was when President Lyndon B. Johnson sent troops to Alabama to protect civil rights demonstrators in 1965, she said.

Trump throwing another tantrum.

Democrats always get mad when you take their slaves.

 

[ncguy]

Democrats always get mad when you take their slaves.

Slave stupidity lol
It's not 1860 anymore update your calendar

 

[trumptman]

Slave stupidity lol
It's not 1860 anymore update your calendar

It's not 1860. It's 2025.

Democrats still need their slaves.

They need them to do the work so cheap that they don't have to pay Americans.

They need the to be present for the census but not able to vote and not to demand actual delivery of services from Democrats.

They need them as a peasant class and cry racism to keep them in line.

 

[HumblePi]

Nothing will happen because this is what the American public wants

"State Authority: As the commander-in-chief of the California National Guard, Governor Gavin Newsom has the primary authority to deploy the Guard for state-level emergencies, such as natural disasters, riots, or other public safety needs"

Deploying the National Guard to any state must be with the consent and authority of the governor of that state, which Donald Trump does not have because Gavin Newsom is fighting this military tactic. In order to deploy more National Guard to Los Angeles, Trump will certainly invoke the Insurrection Act. Pete Hegseth has already stated that they are prepared to send more National Guard into Los Angeles. Donald Trump will create a de facto police state. This was the plan all along.

 

[LostInSeattle]

There is a good chance if these untrained National Guard troops start killing people.

What makes you think they are untrained?

 

[HumblePi]

I'm so old I can remember when Democrats were declaring that they had no obligation to assist the Federal Government and ICE with immigration matters.

Clearly this is far more than not assisting. This is active impediment, interference and insurrection.

They are literally taking sides against the U.S. Government and FOR foreign invaders.

I think it’s evident from the thousands of protests we’ve seen across the country against Trump‘s authoritarianism, and threats to the lives of people who may face losing their Social Security or Medicaid benefits, that people are scared, and they’re angry. This isn’t only about immigration, there are a lot of factors at play. For anyone that’s aware of the history of dictators globally, we are in the same path other people walked in Third World countries. What price are people willing to pay to preserve democracy? We are about to find out.

 

[BirdinHand]

It's not 1860. It's 2025.

Democrats still need their slaves.

They need them to do the work so cheap that they don't have to pay Americans.

They need the to be present for the census but not able to vote and not to demand actual delivery of services from Democrats.

They need them as a peasant class and cry racism to keep them in line.

Actually, many democrats are in favor of an everify mandate so that employers need to verify the legal status of employees AND pay them legitimate wages.

We are also in favor of higher minimum wages and LIVEABLE WAGES for all employees.

We are also in favor of true immigration reform in the form of federal legislation addressing immigration.

What we are not in favor of is masked federal agents rolling into neighborhoods in militarized vehicles grabbing random people off the streets without due process and while acting like jackbooted gestapo.

We are not in favor of those same federal agents inciting violence by shooting tear gas and less than lethal rounds at peaceful protestors.

We are not in favor of detaining legal immigrants and citizens.

We are not in favor of deporting people to torture prisons without due process.


I’m sorry you cannot discern such nuances and are instead trained to clap like a seal by and swallow bullshit from known liars and convicted felons.

To me, it is actually sad that you cannot discern that you are being spoonfed a bullshit narrative by people that do not care one iota about you.

 

[eohrnberger]

This is good.

It was my understanding that the National Guard can only be ordered to take any action by the Governor of their state.
Or do I have this wrong?
If this is so, then Trump can request the National Guard all he wants, and it doesn't amount to much of anything, beyond political posturing.

Further, Sec. Def. claims that his Marines at Pendleton are ready to engage, which would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, so I figure this is just yet more political posturing.

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

Agreed. But it has to come from the Governor, doesn't it?

Dems choose some pretty strange battles to fight. Causing riots to try to prevent deportations of illegals and criminals - is one of those very strange battles to undertake.

Also agreed, hence the Dems low polling results as of late.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[HumblePi]

This is good.

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

Dems choose some pretty strange battles to fight. Causing riots to try to prevent deportations of illegals and criminals - is one of those very strange battles to undertake.

I don’t know how you can describe this as a “strange battle” ? This is about authoritarianism, and how citizens rise up against it.

 

[j brown's body]

So, any idea why Trump couldn't have done this on 1//6?

 

[Callen]

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

But it is OK to attack the Capitol building, breach the most significant federal building , destroy property and endanger every single federally elected official including the VP.....and everybody , even those who harmed officers, get a pardon. The hypocrisy on the right is sickening.

 

[j brown's body]

It was my understanding that the National Guard can only be ordered to take any action by the Governor of their state.
Or do I have this wrong?
If this is so, then Trump can request the National Guard all he wants, and it doesn't amount to much of anything, beyond political posturing.

Further, Sec. Def. claims that his Marines at Pendleton are ready to engage, which would be a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act, so I figure this is just yet more political posturing.


Agreed. But it has to come from the Governor, doesn't it?


Also agreed, hence the Dems low polling results as of late.

Back when Rwanda was committing genocide, Clinton called it "acts of genocide" to avoid doing anything about it.

Maybe we should call what Trump is doing is acts of the Insurrection Act.

 

[Emlee]

This is good.

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

Dems choose some pretty strange battles to fight. Causing riots to try to prevent deportations of illegals and criminals - is one of those very strange battles to undertake.

Absolutely incredible, pathetic, yet completely unsurprising.

Yes, attacking police, damaging property, attempting to breach federal buildings is not ok.

Unless it’s done in the name of your exalted dear leader, unless they’re incited by your exalted dear leader’s stolen election lies and hoax, then they’re all great American patriots who all deserve pardons, the police then are called thugs and worse for trying to protect that federal building and the people in that federal building, which you and the rest of cult45/47 fully applaud and excuse.

Blatant hypocrisy, pathetic phony moral high ground, thy name is always cult45/47.

 

[trumptman]

Actually, many democrats are in favor of an everify mandate so that employers need to verify the legal status of employees AND pay them legitimate wages.

We are also in favor of higher minimum wages and LIVEABLE WAGES for all employees.

We are also in favor of true immigration reform in the form of federal legislation addressing immigration.

What we are not in favor of is masked federal agents rolling into neighborhoods in militarized vehicles grabbing random people off the streets without due process and while acting like jackbooted gestapo.

We are not in favor of those same federal agents inciting violence by shooting tear gas and less than lethal rounds at peaceful protestors.

We are not in favor of detaining legal immigrants and citizens.

We are not in favor of deporting people to torture prisons without due process.


I’m sorry you cannot discern such nuances and are instead trained to clap like a seal by and swallow bullshit from known liars and convicted felons.

To me, it is actually sad that you cannot discern that you are being spoonfed a bullshit narrative by people that do not care one iota about you.

Sorry but your own words betray the lies and gaslighting. Sorry but your little toxic qualifiers no longer matter. You don't get "legitimate and livable wages" when allowing in a endless supply of low skill labor. It's literally union busting 101 and Democrat love it. Crying about tariffs when allowing near sourcing, outsourcing, H1B's and more just prove their lies.

So stop lying. The concern trolling and gaslighting is no longer effective and no longer tolerated.

 

[Utility Man]

 

[trumptman]

I think it’s evident from the thousands of protests we’ve seen across the country against Trump‘s authoritarianism, and threats to the lives of people who may face losing their Social Security or Medicaid benefits, that people are scared, and they’re angry. This isn’t only about immigration, there are a lot of factors at play. For anyone that’s aware of the history of dictators globally, we are in the same path other people walked in Third World countries. What price are people willing to pay to preserve democracy? We are about to find out.

"It's not about immigration."

Yes it is literally about immigration.

"It's complicated."

No it isn't.

"Third world dictators and preserve democracy."

You ran a mental vegetable for President and Democrat Shithole Cities look exactly like third world countries run by Despotic Dictators.

No one buys your lies. No one is listening to your gaslighting.

 

[Carjosse]

Fishing for an excuse to use the Insurrection Act.

 

[HumblePi]

"It's not about immigration."

Yes it is literally about immigration.

"It's complicated."

No it isn't.

"Third world dictators and preserve democracy."

You ran a mental vegetable for President and Democrat Shithole Cities look exactly like third world countries run by Despotic Dictators.

No one buys your lies. No one is listening to your gaslighting.

I suppose your eyes didn’t witness the protests going on around the country, and those protests were not only about immigration. The protests were elderly people scared to death that they’re going to lose their Medicare or Medicaid. These were white, every day Americans protesting against an authoritarian who threatened their very existence in order for the wealthiest Americans to control their lives. So no, this is more complex than you seem to think it is. This is not only about immigration and the loss of people’s rights to due process of the law. This is about the health, financial security and well-being of the majority of people in this country.

 

[Jezcoe]

"State Authority: As the commander-in-chief of the California National Guard, Governor Gavin Newsom has the primary authority to deploy the Guard for state-level emergencies, such as natural disasters, riots, or other public safety needs"

Deploying the National Guard to any state must be with the consent and authority of the governor of that state, which Donald Trump does not have because Gavin Newsom is fighting this military tactic. In order to deploy more National Guard to Los Angeles, Trump will certainly invoke the Insurrection Act. Pete Hegseth has already stated that they are prepared to send more National Guard into Los Angeles. Donald Trump will create a de facto police state. This was the plan all along.

Hegseth has said he will send in Marines.

Super fascist

 

[Jezcoe]

Actually, many democrats are in favor of an everify mandate so that employers need to verify the legal status of employees AND pay them legitimate wages.

We are also in favor of higher minimum wages and LIVEABLE WAGES for all employees.

We are also in favor of true immigration reform in the form of federal legislation addressing immigration.

What we are not in favor of is masked federal agents rolling into neighborhoods in militarized vehicles grabbing random people off the streets without due process and while acting like jackbooted gestapo.

We are not in favor of those same federal agents inciting violence by shooting tear gas and less than lethal rounds at peaceful protestors.

We are not in favor of detaining legal immigrants and citizens.

We are not in favor of deporting people to torture prisons without due process.


I’m sorry you cannot discern such nuances and are instead trained to clap like a seal by and swallow bullshit from known liars and convicted felons.

To me, it is actually sad that you cannot discern that you are being spoonfed a bullshit narrative by people that do not care one iota about you.

The people who are cheering on the police state don't think that the police state will affect them.

 

[HumblePi]

Hegseth has said he will send in Marines.

Super fascist

Donald Trump will justify this by claiming it’s a threat to the country and will invoke the Insurrection Act in order to legally deploy thousands more National Guard. People are only kidding themselves if they don’t believe this wasn’t the plan all along. DHS knew this was going to happen and they’re prepared.

 

[BirdinHand]

Sorry but your own words betray the lies and gaslighting. Sorry but your little toxic qualifiers no longer matter. You don't get "legitimate and livable wages" when allowing in a endless supply of low skill labor. It's literally union busting 101 and Democrat love it. Crying about tariffs when allowing near sourcing, outsourcing, H1B's and more just prove their lies.

So stop lying. The concern trolling and gaslighting is no longer effective and no longer tolerated.

Actually, if you go through my post history here - you can see where I’ve been saying that we need to change the immigration laws around H1 visas for several years that I’ve been on this site.

So gaslight someone else and pick a topic I’m less informed about if you want to attempt to gaslight me.

I’ve been a consistent advocate for immigration reform - and consistent advocate screaming about how EMPLOYERS and those holding power have kept the current system in place for THEIR benefit for years.

I have no beef with individuals that are doing the very best they can for their families and themselves. The VAST MAJORITY of immigrants - regardless of what status or classification they hold - are solid, hard working individuals that have sought a better life for themselves and are normal, everyday people just trying to do the best they can.

I don’t view immigrants coming to this country to try to make a better life for themselves any differently than I view MY ancestors. That fled bullshit in Ireland and elsewhere. That faced discrimination and horrific working conditions when they arrived here. We changed the system since my family came here - or it could be my ancestors being rounded up no differently than folks are being rounded up today . My family would never have been able to afford the attorneys, etc necessary to abide the current system. . Our current system is designed for the rich, not the average person.

I’m also not one that has fallen for the propaganda to look DOWN the economic and power food chain/ladder to place blame.

We need immigrants in the US. Our immigration system is purposefully designed the way that it is by those holding power to keep people downtrodden and exploit them.

It could be changed, easily.

Billionaires like Trump and Musk do not want that.

Trump employed undocumented immigrants. Trump continues to employ individuals on visa statuses that do not allow those individuals a path towards becoming green card holders and citizens. Musk has terminated citizens and green card holders and replaced them with H1 visa holders.

The billionaires don’t want to change the immigration system because many of the classifications within our current immigration system trap people in statuses where an employer holds all the cards and where the legal status of an individual is contingent upon employer sponsorship - and therefore a person cannot object to their work environment, their wages, their employer policies, etc.

By design.

Wake up.

 

[NuffSaid]

This is good.

We have the beginnings of the Summer of Love 2025 in LA. It is not okay to attack ICE officers doing their job, vandalize property, attempt to breach federal buildings, slash tires and burn cars. This needs to be stopped immediately.

Dems choose some pretty strange battles to fight. Causing riots to try to prevent deportations of illegals and criminals - is one of those very strange battles to undertake.

Protesting is illegal?

 

[Jezcoe]

Actually, if you go through my post history here - you can see where I’ve been saying that we need to change the immigration laws around H1 visas for several years that I’ve been on this site.

So gaslight someone else and pick a topic I’m less informed about if you want to attempt to gaslight me.

I’ve been a consistent advocate for immigration reform - and consistent advocate screaming about how EMPLOYERS and those holding power have kept the current system in place for THEIR benefit for years.

I have no beef with individuals that are doing the very best they can for their families and themselves.

I don’t view immigrants coming to this country to try to make a better life for themselves any differently than I view MY ancestors. That fled bullshit in Ireland and elsewhere. That faced discrimination and horrific working conditions when they arrived here.

I’m also not one that has fallen for the propaganda to look DOWN the economic and power food chain/ladder to place blame.

We need immigrants in the US. Our immigration system is purposefully designed the way that it is by those holding power to keep people downtrodden and exploit them.

It could be changed, easily.

Billionaires like Trump and Musk do not want that.

Trump employed undocumented immigrants. Trump continues to employ individuals on visa statuses that do not allow those individuals a path towards becoming green card holders and citizens. Musk has terminated citizens and green card holders and replaced them with H1 visa holders.

The billionaires don’t want to change the immigration system because many of the classifications within our current immigration system trap people in statuses where an employer holds all the cards and where the legal status of an individual is contingent upon employer sponsorship - and therefore a person cannot object to their work environment, their wages, their employer policies, etc.

By design.

Wake up.

The Billionaire Class are masters at dividing the working class.