• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Trump threatens Chicago 'Chipocalypse Now' on Truth Social post, Illinois leaders raise alarm

You raised a distinction without a difference.
He won more votes than the DEI candidate.
That's a plurality of votes.
Drought is never going to be a problem in southern Oregon, so much water do you carry for the guy you claim has never been worthy of your vote.
 
Didn't happen.
A majority of the voters voted against Trump.

Playing semantics is a logic fallacy because it's misleading without context as the popular vote does not determine the presidency due to the Electoral College system. Accept it and move on.
 
Good luck impeaching Trump with the Dems holding onto a House minority position.
I believe Trump is throwing out a cinematic trial balloon to see how the public reacts to it. But, in reality, putting National Guard troops into Chicago is certainly one way to get Pritzker's and the hapless Progressive mayor's attention in the wake of so many shooting and murders in that shameful city Chicago.
Yeah, Yeah,,, Yeah, we heard all about the declining rates of crime in Chicago.

Let's once again hear it for Chicago being the leading city in murders for the past 13 years. And the useless Brandon Johnson simply cannot do anything about it.


View attachment 67587647
Chicago is the 3rd largest city. That graph is comparing it to cities a fraction of it's size. Cities like Memphis and St Louis have much higher homicide rates than Chicago. St. Louis is literally one of the most dangerous cities on earth, so why isn't Trump sending the military there?
 
You raised a distinction without a difference.
He won more votes than the DEI candidate.
That's a plurality of votes.
Fact remains, most voters voted against Trump. Again.
 
Playing semantics is a logic fallacy because it's misleading without context as the popular vote does not determine the presidency due to the Electoral College system. Accept it and move on.
Read what I replied to. My reply was perfectly apropos.
Your boy got less than half the votes. Again. And still the magatry hoots about "the people spoke".
 
Chicago is the 3rd largest city. That graph is comparing it to cities a fraction of it's size. Cities like Memphis and St Louis have much higher homicide rates than Chicago. St. Louis is literally one of the most dangerous cities on earth, so why isn't Trump sending the military there?
Because going to the smaller cities will not yield the biggest bang for the buck.
I think St. Louis also deserves a visit from the NG.
 
Drought is never going to be a problem in southern Oregon, so much water do you carry for the guy you claim has never been worthy of your vote.
You got me there, Karma.
I want Trump to win because he is the president.
Is that 'carrying water' for the duly elected president?
And you want to blame me for not voting for him.
 
If you're talking about Israel then make a note that it's capital is Jerusalem.

If you lived in a tiny country surrounded by 100 million Arabs and Persians who want to see it destroyed, what would you do to defend your country?
Ask for forgiveness for killing those who wish to destroy it?

The U.S. military can't 'police' Chicago. Obviously the police and the useless mayor need help in eliminating the scum in the city that annually makes Chicago the murder capital of the country WITH THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MURDERS IN THE COUNTRY EACH YEAR!
Not according to roughly 99 percent of the globe.

Israel isn’t “defending itself”. It’s actively trying to steal others’ land

The US military isn’t remotely good at policing, yes. Which is why Donnie’s flailing is particular stupid.
 
You raised a distinction without a difference.
He won more votes than the DEI candidate.
That's a plurality of votes.

That’s BS. She was qualified.

Everyone on Trump’s cabinet is a DEI hire.

And had she won everything would be wonderful.

No one threatening to invade US cities.

No bullshit tariffs that are putting people out of work and raising our taxes.
 
Because going to the smaller cities will not yield the biggest bang for the buck.
I think St. Louis also deserves a visit from the NG.
So, even though the citizens of St. Louis endure a homicide rate that is 4 times that of Chicago, Chicago needs the national guard before they do? St. Louis is in the top ten most dangerous cities on earth. In contrast, Chicago isn't even one of the top ten most dangerous cities in the United States.

Here is an alternate explanation. Trump doesn't care anything about they people of Chicago. He lacks any semblance of conscience. The people of Chicago didn't vote for him, thus he doesn't care anything about them. Think about what it would be like to go through life completely unburdened by a conscience, and at the same time to have a massive inferiority complex. That is how Donald Trump goes through life, it is how he sees the world. When you want to know what motivates him, that is the lens you need to look through. Thus, his motivation for sending the military into Chicago is not to make life better for it's citizens, if he does that in the process, he has something to brag about, but that isn't his core motivation. Instead, its to create a spectacle and to bait Democrats into appearing as though they are weak on crime and he is strong on crime.

That is what this is all about. That is why you don't see him talking about sending the military into Memphis, an incredibly dangerous city, or St. Louis, again, an incredibly dangerous city. Its also why he hasn't pushed congress to add 100,000 more cops on our city streets as we did with the Clinton crime bill in the 1990s (even though that reduced crime dramatically). To send the national guard into St. Louis would be to say that a very red state has a very bad crime problem, and Trump isn't going to do that.
 
Wow. You won that major mole hill.
It's only a mole hill because it's a Republican squeezing through a loophole into the White House. Again. Why is it always Republicans that lose the election but win the Presidency? Last time it was Dubya, if I remember right.
Gawd, remember when Trump mistakenly thought Romney had got more votes than that black Muslim from Kenya?

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!”

“Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.”


“This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!”

“Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.”

“Our nation is a once great nation divided!”

It wasn't a mole hill then.
But, that's about the Electoral College boondoggle. This is about Trump winning the election with less than half the votes and trumpers crowing, "The people spoke!" Trump has never been the people's choice.
 
You raised a distinction without a difference.
He won more votes than the DEI candidate.
That's a plurality of votes.
Plurality is not a majority
Words matter in a debate
 
Yeah because those are totally comparable situations.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Gee dude, you guys are the ones going on about how Chicago is supposedly oh so dangerous and totally out of control that the military needs to be brought in. Why should we believe they aren’t comparable, if your narrative has any validity?
 
Plurality is not a majority
Words matter in a debate
I am impressed with your need for precision.
You won that one. But I am still glad she doesn't live in the White House.
And probably never will.
 
It's only a mole hill because it's a Republican squeezing through a loophole into the White House. Again. Why is it always Republicans that lose the election but win the Presidency? Last time it was Dubya, if I remember right.
Gawd, remember when Trump mistakenly thought Romney had got more votes than that black Muslim from Kenya?

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!”

“Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us.”


“This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!”

“Our country is now in serious and unprecedented trouble...like never before.”

“Our nation is a once great nation divided!”

It wasn't a mole hill then.
But, that's about the Electoral College boondoggle. This is about Trump winning the election with less than half the votes and trumpers crowing, "The people spoke!" Trump has never been the people's choice.
Is it a feature of Canadian anti-Trumpers that they need to dwell on what an inveterate liar says?

I will never believe what he says because his words do not mean anything.
 
Gee dude, you guys are the ones going on about how Chicago is supposedly oh so dangerous and totally out of control that the military needs to be brought in. Why should we believe they aren’t comparable, if your narrative has any validity?

"You guys"... does anyone here think as an individual anymore?
 
"You guys"... does anyone here think as an individual anymore?
You are aware you aren’t the only person desperately trying to defend Trump’s idiotic idea, right?

You keep running from the question as to why anyone should believe bringing in the military would help, though.
 
You are aware you aren’t the only person desperately trying to defend Trump’s idiotic idea, right?

You keep running from the question as to why anyone should believe bringing in the military would help, though.

I wasn't completely defending his idea, and if you spent 5 minutes reading my prior posts on the issue, you'd realize that. Go back to the first post I made in this thread, about the legal challenges Trump faces. You need to learn the difference between analyzing the merits/demerits of an idea, and supporting an idea.

Stop talking shit. I am done with you.
 
I wasn't completely defending his idea, and if you spent 5 minutes reading my prior posts on the issue, you'd realize that. Go back to the first post I made in this thread, about the legal challenges Trump faces. You need to learn the difference between analyzing the merits/demerits of an idea, and supporting an idea.

Stop talking shit. I am done with you.
Gee dude, whining because you were called out on supporting a terrible idea that you can’t work up any sort of argument in favor of is pretty sad.
 
Is it a feature of Canadian anti-Trumpers that they need to dwell on what an inveterate liar says?
We're not used to politicians being so flagrant and obvious about their lies. And being justified by their followers in the most outrageous, impossible lies. It's entertainment, theatre, for us.
I will never believe what he says because his words do not mean anything.
Sorry, I misread your position.
 
Back
Top Bottom