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[braindrain]

Shocking that you clearly didn’t know that the officers of a former regime leading an insurgency is a clear sign said regime hasn’t actually been defeated...actually , given the utter ignorance you’ve continued to display regularly, it’s not shocking at all

The US military couldn’t destroy Iraqi resistance in multiple decades of trying.

It did rape and murder plenty of Iraqi civilians though in its flailing efforts to do so, on the other hand.

Gee, no wonder it failed so pathetically.

No it’s not. And anyone who knows anything understands that.
The Iraqi military as a military was utterly crushed. You denying that simply shows your detachment from reality.

That some individuals choose to fight as insurgents doesn’t change that fact.

More lies and exaggerations from you. Through most of its modern history the US military has been a very professional well behaved military that does more then most to limit civilian. Pretending like bad behavior of a tiny percentage represents the whole is just more desperation from you.

 

[Tigerace117]

No it’s not. And anyone who knows anything understands that.
The Iraqi military as a military was utterly crushed. You denying that simply shows your detachment from reality.

That some individuals choose to fight as insurgents doesn’t change that fact.

More lies and exaggerations from you. Through most of its modern history the US military has been a very professional well behaved military that does more then most to limit civilian. Pretending like bad behavior of a tiny percentage represents the whole is just more desperation from you.

The ongoing resistance over the next several decades shows that to be a total falsehood on every level.

Anyone honest enough to face reality knows that.



No it hasn’t. The US openly celebrates its war criminals as heroes, and utterly refuses to punish those responsible for such atrocities whenever it can. It literally has a law authorizing the president to take “whatever measures necessary” to free American war criminals held by The Hague.

 

[braindrain]

The US military spent multiple decades supposedly in control of Afghanistan, yet couldn’t defeat the Taliban.

The Russians crushed two separate insurgencies during that exact time period.

More squealing about irrelevant battles that changed nothing on the ground. Who cares?

That the US military is too cowardly too learn from its mistakes and prefers to blame shift at all costs shows why it continues to lose wars.

The Russians not only did better in Afghanistan than the US, they’ve taken and held vast amounts of ground while supposedly shaking off losses that would have the US on its knees.

Yes fighting insurgencies is usually a long and drawn out affairs that require more time and manpower then the US government was willing to invest. You would know that if you had any actual knowledge on the topic.

That you think all insurgencies are the same is simply idiotic and frankly I am proud the US didn’t resort to the disgusting tactics so commonly by the Russian military to crush insurgencies.

You should probably stop using words you don’t actually know the meaning of. Pointing out facts isn’t squealing. Even if those facts destroy your little argument.

But yet still not cowardly that its members couldn’t hack it in basic training. So there is that.


If by did better you mean committed more rape murder and torture of Afghan civilians then sure. If you mean did more to set up a democratic government then no not so much.
And forgive me for not caring too much about you military assessments seeing as they are based on nothing more then your hurt feelings.

 

[braindrain]

Reality: the US forces in Iraq routinely committed atrocities and were rarely, if ever, punished for them.

As shown by cases like Haditha, where not a single Marine involved went to jail.

Oh, and now we are back to caring about the supposed experts after you backpedaled away from them

Ten percent of an entire army is a significant amount of troops dude. Hilarious that you can’t face that reality.

But humiliating yourself is status quo for you.

No they did not. That simply a lie.
Yes when you have millions of people rotate through a place bad things will happen. And the US should have done more to punish those people. That still doesn’t make it routine.
But it’s funny seeing you complain about US atrocities while talking about how much better Russia does. It’s like you are incapable of seeing irony.

The back peddling is your imagination. Nothing more.

No it really isn’t. That again your imagination. And more importantly that was 100 years ago. It has no bearing on today.

The only being humiliated here is you. And every one can see that but you.

 

[braindrain]

The ongoing resistance over the next several decades shows that to be a total falsehood on every level.

Anyone honest enough to face reality knows that.



No it hasn’t. The US openly celebrates its war criminals as heroes, and utterly refuses to punish those responsible for such atrocities whenever it can. It literally has a law authorizing the president to take “whatever measures necessary” to free American war criminals held by The Hague.

No it doesn’t. You would understand that if you had even the most basic education on this topic. But you don’t so there is that.

You and honesty have rarely met.

More lies. How unsurprising.

Yes the US rightly reserves the right to discipline its own people. As it should.
Sorry that hurts your feelings.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes fighting insurgencies is usually a long and drawn out affairs that require more time and manpower then the US government was willing to invest. You would know that if you had any actual knowledge on the topic.

That you think all insurgencies are the same is simply idiotic and frankly I am proud the US didn’t resort to the disgusting tactics so commonly by the Russian military to crush insurgencies.

You should probably stop using words you don’t actually know the meaning of. Pointing out facts isn’t squealing. Even if those facts destroy your little argument.

But yet still not cowardly that its members couldn’t hack it in basic training. So there is that.


If by did better you mean committed more rape murder and torture of Afghan civilians then sure. If you mean did more to set up a democratic government then no not so much.
And forgive me for not caring too much about you military assessments seeing as they are based on nothing more then your hurt feelings.

Ah yes, more posturing about how the US supposedly didn’t actually want to win

In reality the US did everything it could to win, and still failed, because of doctrinal, strategic, and tactical failings at every level. Across multiple wars, for that matter.

The US committed atrocities every bit as bad, if not worse than anything the Russians have done, in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and especially in Vietnam so that’s clearly yet another falsehood. Frankly you’ve humiliated yourself....again

You should probably learn history if you are going to sputter on. You haven’t managed to destroy anything except your own credibility.

And yet so cowardly orders to rape and murder innocent civilians were obeyed with enthusiasm. So there is that.

Hmm....sounds like your sputtering about boot camp is worthless.

The govenrment the US set up in Afghanistan was seen as so worthless by its own people it didn’t last a single day on its own.

You’ve throughly established nothing can force you to stop humiliating yourself, yes.

 

[Tigerace117]

No they did not. That simply a lie.
Yes when you have millions of people rotate through a place bad things will happen. And the US should have done more to punish those people. That still doesn’t make it routine.
But it’s funny seeing you complain about US atrocities while talking about how much better Russia does. It’s like you are incapable of seeing irony.

The back peddling is your imagination. Nothing more.

No it really isn’t. That again your imagination. And more importantly that was 100 years ago. It has no bearing on today.

The only being humiliated here is you. And every one can see that but you.

Yes, it did. The US being so cowardly it refuses to acknowledge said atrocities doesn’t make them go away.

All that sniveling about boot camp and that’s the best you’ve got when confronted with the actual war crimes the US military excused? Laughable.

Maybe you should go tell the families of the Iraqi civilians slaughtered by Americans who were never punished “but Russia!” I’m sure that will somehow make things better

Nope, it’s what you continue to do every chance you get.

The US military has demonstrated no improvement across multiple wars since then.

Awww, another round of meaningless fantasy from you!

 

[Tigerace117]

No it doesn’t. You would understand that if you had even the most basic education on this topic. But you don’t so there is that.

You and honesty have rarely met.

More lies. How unsurprising.

Yes the US rightly reserves the right to discipline its own people. As it should.
Sorry that hurts your feelings.

The US routinely doesn’t “discipline” its war criminals. It protects them. At all costs.

No atrocity is so bad the US won’t excuse and defend it, as cases like the Eddie Gallagher fiasco prove.

And no amount of pathetic blind denial can change that.

 

[braindrain]

Ah yes, more posturing about how the US supposedly didn’t actually want to win

In reality the US did everything it could to win, and still failed, because of doctrinal, strategic, and tactical failings at every level. Across multiple wars, for that matter.

The US committed atrocities every bit as bad, if not worse than anything the Russians have done, in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and especially in Vietnam so that’s clearly yet another falsehood. Frankly you’ve humiliated yourself....again

You should probably learn history if you are going to sputter on. You haven’t managed to destroy anything except your own credibility.

And yet so cowardly orders to rape and murder innocent civilians were obeyed with enthusiasm. So there is that.

Hmm....sounds like your sputtering about boot camp is worthless.

The govenrment the US set up in Afghanistan was seen as so worthless by its own people it didn’t last a single day on its own.

You’ve throughly established nothing can force you to stop humiliating yourself, yes.

Another lie by you. How surprising. I never said anything about not wanting to win. Why lie about it. I mean other then it is what you usually do.

The US did not. And that is just a fact. We pulled troops from Afghanistan at important times. We kept the number of troops there much smaller than we should have. You have zero clue about anything related to doctrinal, strategic, and tactical decision by the US military. Your only source for these claims is your butt hurt feelings.

No they didn’t. Why lie. You probably should stop spending so much time on RT. You are starting to believe the BS they peddle.

You haven’t destroyed anything I have said. Quite the opposite in fact. But then when one has the detachment from reality that you do I am not surprised you can’t see that.

More lies from you. How sad.

No it’s not worthless it’s important to point that out so everyone can see just where your “ideas” come from.

Still better than the government the Russians set up. But I know how much women getting to vote and little girls getting to attend schools must bother you.

No i have established plenty. And everyone but you can see that. Meanwhile all you have is your impotent rage and a general lack of knowledge. But then that is rather usual from you.

But as usual your repeated nonsense grows tired and one can only find so much entertainment in destroying your hate filled rants.
Feel free to have the last word. I will leave you to scream out in rage at your screen all you like.

 

[Tigerace117]

Another lie by you. How surprising. I never said anything about not wanting to win. Why lie about it. I mean other then it is what you usually do.

The US did not. And that is just a fact. We pulled troops from Afghanistan at important times. We kept the number of troops there much smaller than we should have. You have zero clue about anything related to doctrinal, strategic, and tactical decision by the US military. Your only source for these claims is your butt hurt feelings.

No they didn’t. Why lie. You probably should stop spending so much time on RT. You are starting to believe the BS they peddle.

You haven’t destroyed anything I have said. Quite the opposite in fact. But then when one has the detachment from reality that you do I am not surprised you can’t see that.

More lies from you. How sad.

No it’s not worthless it’s important to point that out so everyone can see just where your “ideas” come from.

Still better than the government the Russians set up. But I know how much women getting to vote and little girls getting to attend schools must bother you.

No i have established plenty. And everyone but you can see that. Meanwhile all you have is your impotent rage and a general lack of knowledge. But then that is rather usual from you.

But as usual your repeated nonsense grows tired and one can only find so much entertainment in destroying your hate filled rants.
Feel free to have the last word. I will leave you to scream out in rage at your screen all you like.

Your admission the US military flat out failed and got its ass kicked is noted.

Gee, that’s because the US was busy losing another war in Iraq.

More pathetic squeals about me personally because you can’t face up to the US’s endless failures.

Yes, they did. And America is so pathetically cowardly such atrocities are never, ever acknowledged.

Only in your fantasies, as per usual.

My “ideas” come from reality, instead of the whitewashed propaganda you cling to.

America literally supplied the exact same religious fanatics with everything they could only a few years earlier, so the pretense that America “cares about women and girls going to school” is a comical falsehood.

The only thing you’ve established is you can’t bear to face up to what the US did....as usual.

No amount of blind denial and whining about imaginary “hate” can ever change the facts.

No matter how much you triple down on it, having utterly failed to “destroy” anything other than your own credibility.

 

[Absentglare]

Call me selfish but while we have the world's best negotiator working for us we have to empower him to do as much as possible.

Obama doesn’t work for us anymore.