Trump Tells Christians They Won’t Have to Vote in Future: ‘We’ll Have It Fixed’

[Pami]

Biden did not open the border. That is a lie.

And why shouldn't we have healthcare that doesn't cause people to go bankrupt to use? It would in fact cost us less in overall costs to have UHC than what we have now.

How was it so out of context that he wasn't lying, blowing smoke up the asses of his MAGAs to get their vote?

Read… don’t tell me about smoke up one’s ass. Biden did not want his kids in a jungle and Harris called him out in the debate and then weeks later, VP… don’t talk about smoke up one’s ass. RNC convention had several Dems that lost their children and tired of smoke up their asses because they felt used! Do it’s not me speaking. It’s people that have been supporters and I did vote for Obama.
It’s reality that I am voting for and is my decision made? There is a third candidate.
It’s the government site from the White House archives. Read!

Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border | Th

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[BogeyGolf]

Note to all non Neo-Leftists: There will be 4 long months of these false narratives and the Neo-Leftists are being riled up to their all time highs of Trump Hate hoping to get these narratives to stick. My suggestion is to just consider these "Hate-Bait" and not even bother to reply sincerely, because the pretext wasn't sincere in the first place. Also note that you can't win an argument with a Neo-Leftist no matter how hard you try and how solid your argument is. Never. Their sole intention is to trap you into a name calling argument where they can insult you while hoping to get you banned. So why bother and encourage them by engaging with them? If the non Neo-Leftists can't find anyone to trap, they will eventually have to turn on themselves, and that's when the real fun starts. My advice: Don't fall for Hate-Bait and let them destroy themselves.

That's racist!

 

[roguenuke]

Read… don’t tell me about smoke up one’s ass. Biden did not want his kids in a jungle and Harris called him out in the debate and then weeks later, VP… don’t talk about smoke up one’s ass. RNC convention had several Dems that lost their children and tired of smoke up their asses because they felt used! Do it’s not me speaking. It’s people that have been supporters and I did vote for Obama.
It’s reality that I am voting for and is my decision made? There is a third candidate.
It’s the government site from the White House archives. Read!

Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border | Th

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act

www.whitehouse.gov

Back to deflecting. You can't address the actual comments Trump made, so instead you bring up the past.

It is a few people handpicked and having their trauma exploited.

I didn't vote for Obama, but was actually supporting him by 2012.

She was addressing the causes of migration. That means addressing what is going on in the countries the people are coming from. Getting to the key problems, not glorified shitshows. And it was Trump who ordered R reps to not vote for the immigration bill so that Ds didn't get any wins.

 

[TomFitz]

When it's given out of context....................................yes, it's giving a false narrative!


Lol - when we take things out of context, we usually end up with an irrational message.

Like - how can Trump mean there'll be no more election after Nov when he's talking about working with DEMOCRATS?

You worked very hard at choosing context to support a very weak argument,

Of course, you had to deliberately ignore Trump’s repeated calls for do-overs, his dictatorial fantasies, his anti democratic tendencies, his threats to deploy the Federal government as an instrument of retribution (which Trump world cheered for), and the highly authoritarian goals of Project 2025, which Trump insiders worked on, as well as the unilateral assertions of Agenda 47.

Nobody is buying what you’re selling.

 

[Pami]

Back to deflecting. You can't address the actual comments Trump made, so instead you bring up the past.

It is a few people handpicked and having their trauma exploited.

I didn't vote for Obama, but was actually supporting him by 2012.

She was addressing the causes of migration. That means addressing what is going on in the countries the people are coming from. Getting to the key problems, not glorified shitshows. And it was Trump who ordered R reps to not vote for the immigration bill so that Ds didn't get any wins.

Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border | Th

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[Pami]

You worked very hard at choosing context to support a very weak argument,

Of course, you had to deliberately ignore Trump’s repeated calls for do-overs, his dictatorial fantasies, his anti democratic tendencies, his threats to deploy the Federal government as an instrument of retribution (which Trump world cheered for), and the highly authoritarian goals of Project 2025, which Trump insiders worked on, as well as the unilateral assertions of Agenda 47.

Nobody is buying what you’re selling.

Read the government site! Not YouTube! Not Fox. Or TikTok.

 

[roguenuke]

Executive Order on Creating a Comprehensive Regional Framework to Address the Causes of Migration, to Manage Migration Throughout North and Central America, and to Provide Safe and Orderly Processing of Asylum Seekers at the United States Border | Th

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the Immigration and Nationality Act

www.whitehouse.gov

Not seeing anything wrong there. Or that changes what I said in this thread.

Now, can we please get back to the topic of the thread, Trump lying to his constituents just to get their votes, showing he doesn't give two shits about them just the power they can give him, or that he really does want to become Putin of America?

 

[TomFitz]

Note to all non Neo-Leftists: There will be 4 long months of these false narratives and the Neo-Leftists are being riled up to their all time highs of Trump Hate hoping to get these narratives to stick. My suggestion is to just consider these "Hate-Bait" and not even bother to reply sincerely, because the pretext wasn't sincere in the first place. Also note that you can't win an argument with a Neo-Leftist no matter how hard you try and how solid your argument is. Never. Their sole intention is to trap you into a name calling argument where they can insult you while hoping to get you banned. So why bother and encourage them by engaging with them? If the non Neo-Leftists can't find anyone to trap, they will eventually have to turn on themselves, and that's when the real fun starts. My advice: Don't fall for Hate-Bait and let them destroy themselves.

As in the past, most of these “false narratives” will be documented.

 

[Pami]

He will continue to name radical judges who will impliment their policies through judicial fiat, making voting pointless.

And it’s ok for Dems to name their own? It’s just all politics and that was clearly what happened with Biden. Screwed him. Biden best Trump before. The real reasoning was not disclosed and it will be. We can jump all over the place because that’s exactly what it is right now. Everyday will be a new day in this race and long.

 

[j brown's body]

And it’s ok for Dems to name their own? It’s just all politics and that was clearly what happened with Biden. Screwed him. Biden best Trump before. The real reasoning was not disclosed and it will be. We can jump all over the place because that’s exactly what it is right now. Everyday will be a new day in this race and long.

Dems aren't advocating for the judiciary to replace democracy. Trump is.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Trump is a traitor who has probably already sold out our military and spies.

 

[Pami]

Not seeing anything wrong there. Or that changes what I said in this thread.

Now, can we please get back to the topic of the thread, Trump lying to his constituents just to get their votes, showing he doesn't give two shits about them just the power they can give him, or that he really does want to become Putin of America?

You did not read it. To be honest, right now, Trump and Harris are the least of our worries. What Trump said was combined on his whole speech. The preacher from Detroit was there. Call him. He spoke at convention. He will tell you. In order to get the whole point, look at all as I have seen all of Biden/Harris speeches as well. I listen to both. How would one know if you did not. So you cannot tell me you saw Trump’s speech until that one piece was posted here.

 

[Revelation]

depends on what we aim for.

Just like in Religion section - do I dare hope I can make an atheist OPENLY admit, "you're right. I believe!"
My target are not the ones I'm debating with.

true, have never seen any one of them come to faith. the info is there though, eventually it may happen, but i address my stuff to lurkers unfamiliar with the arguments. simple cartoons expressing faith i feel fills that bill.

also i use Crystal videos to do the same thing, God is sending dreams and visions of his soon return to rapture christians. i don't expect people to see from my point of view.........at least until it happens. then the Jaws will drop

I'm using atheists' arguments as PLATFORMS to either debunk them, expose them, or both.

How we want to go about this in a DISCUSSION board - to each his own.

correct. Tosca you are unique in your arguments, type styles and perspectives. we need more christians like you here, not afraid to speak up.

i try to fill in with my own issues, but don't expect lock step from others. not gonna happen.

Through all the years of being member - I don't tell any one how to do theirs on DP (unless I'm on the attack) ...............................nor, have I solicited any advice from anyone here, on how I should do mine.

 

[Revelation]

He's a dictator in waiting that should be disqualified from running and being on ballots based upon this political ideology he is going to enforce.

yep, we are going to get World wide Fascism no matter who you vote for. doesn't matter, vote for yur shoes if you want to.

it matters not who you vote for but who counts the votes is what matters; that is why they like those computer voting machines; the machines 'always get it right'.

 

[roguenuke]

You did not read it. To be honest, right now, Trump and Harris are the least of our worries. What Trump said was combined on his whole speech. The preacher from Detroit was there. Call him. He spoke at convention. He will tell you. In order to get the whole point, look at all as I have seen all of Biden/Harris speeches as well. I listen to both. How would one know if you did not. So you cannot tell me you saw Trump’s speech until that one piece was posted here.

You still deflect, still can't just answer the question.

 

[Pami]

You still deflect, still can't just answer the question.

I sound like a politician.

 

[roguenuke]

I sound like a politician.

Not a good one. Not one I'd vote for and I'm voting for Kamala.

 

[Revelation]

If christians get everything they want a whole lot of people lose their basic rights and freedoms.

your going to lose them anyway. anyone notice the Clouds of War forming out there with WW3 around the corner?

you may survive that, but then what? most don't think that far ahead, nor do i expect them too. groan.


Russia wary of U.S. and France election surprises, especially Kamala Harris: IF RUSSIA THOUGHT THE GLOBALISTS WERE DANGEROUS UNDER BIDEN, IT IS WORSE UNDER HARRIS. THEY WILL STRIKE BEFORE THE ELECTION IF SHE GET ELECTED.

 

[Big Brother]

yep, we are going to get World wide Fascism no matter who you vote for. doesn't matter, vote for yur shoes if you want to.

it matters not who you vote for but who counts the votes is what matters; that is why they like those computer voting machines; the machines 'always get it right'.

The same shit happening in the US is happening more and more throughout Europe and The West in general. If you follow the money you see the same thing, which is the billionaires influencing politics to protect and grow their Big Corporation investments. In return those Big Corporations aide the government to become more powerful. Just look at governments colluding with Big Banks, Big Media, Big Arms Industry, etc., and the pattern is clear. For them the best possible outcome is tight collusion between government and the most powerful corporations. Another term for this is Corporate Fascism.

 

[Big Brother]

your going to lose them anyway. anyone notice the Clouds of War forming out there with WW3 around the corner?

you may survive that, but then what? most don't think that far ahead, nor do i expect them too. groan.


Russia wary of U.S. and France election surprises, especially Kamala Harris: IF RUSSIA THOUGHT THE GLOBALISTS WERE DANGEROUS UNDER BIDEN, IT IS WORSE UNDER HARRIS. THEY WILL STRIKE BEFORE THE ELECTION IF SHE GET ELECTED.

Everyone is going to dismiss the possibility of WWIII until it happens. War is the government's get out of jail free card.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Remarkable, yes?

No threat to the democratic republic in this. It’s all just harmless fun. Trump’s gonna fix it so that none of us need to vote anymore. How MAGA-nificent.

{sigh}.

I do wish, most intently, you MAGA folk would actually listen to your guy speak. He’s telling you what he has in mind. He’s been doing so for ages. It’s stupid and scary. So I have to think either you’re not actually hearing him or stupid and scary is actually what you want out of your POTUS.

If that is the case I find that alarming.

 

[j brown's body]

The same shit happening in the US is happening more and more throughout Europe and The West in general. If you follow the money you see the same thing, which is the billionaires influencing politics to protect and grow their Big Corporation investments. In return those Big Corporations aide the government to become more powerful. Just look at governments colluding with Big Banks, Big Media, Big Arms Industry, etc., and the pattern is clear. For them the best possible outcome is tight collusion between government and the most powerful corporations. Another term for this is Corporate Fascism.

You feel these corporations need to be more tightly regulated?

 

[Loulit01]

"Fixed."

Keyword.

 

[Revelation]

Everyone is going to dismiss the possibility of WWIII until it happens. War is the government's get out of jail free card.

true. you seem to be able to see the war clouds forming with nato/russia which most are blind to. all they need this week is a 100 billion more to keep things moving.

but i object, this is not Vietnam; the nuts on both sides are threatening nuuuks. so nobody wins.

what i mean is you don't win in this kind of Environment; think of it as Lose/Lose.

so i harp on that to no avail. anyone think Camel is going to stop this thing? at least Orange says he wants the war over in 24 hours.........he is going in the right direction.

.

 

[ModernDiogenes]

Everyone is going to dismiss the possibility of WWIII until it happens. War is the government's get out of jail free card.

I’ve been stating for ages we are on a historical trends overlay of post Civil War industrial age to the Crash of 1929 into a possible repeat of a World War.

The bubble economy. All the “new money”. The Gilded Age oligarchy. The government corruption. The increasing wealth divide. The increasing political divide. The rise in anger. The rise in communism, fascism, popular nationalism. The yellow journalism. The decline of the society.

It’s all there. Just like before. Somehow even managed to slip a global pandemic into the mix. Just like last time.

The crash is coming folks. Not too late to stop it. Don’t want the same stupid results, stop doing the same stupid things. That’s all it takes.

We’ve seen this movie. We know how it ends.

Stop the greed. Unleverage.the markets and the crazy derivative instruments being sold. Put the economy back on a footing of long term solvency and sustainability . Not the money grab it is today. Profit, but sustainable profit. Do the same with our culture/society. We can do that. If we don’t everything goes *BOOM*! Just like last time.

That’s what unsustainable means. It doesn’t last and it crashes when it stops.