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Trump suggests proper raking might have spared California from its wildfires

1. And you guys are so dense you think he actually meant some guy out there with a garden rake he bought at Home Depot. :roll:

2. Most of us normal people who have lived for years in California watching the battle between those who argued for a more intense and active forest management that pruned and cleared underbrush and those that said "let nature be nature", new exactly what he was talking about.
1. That's closer to what he said than what you guys are claiming he said.

2. I have never seen you argue for that on this forum. Can you quote the years and years you've been advocating for it? Otherwise I call BS.



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Daily experience for one.

The excellent book THE DANGEROUS CASE OF DONALD TRUMP for another.
Oh yeah, another "bombshell' book perhaps? All good for a laugh.

I am quite sure millions of dumb hoodwinked folks will buy it... how many democrats are there again?
 
Oh yeah, another "bombshell' book perhaps? All good for a laugh.

I am quite sure millions of dumb hoodwinked folks will buy it... how many democrats are there again?

From the latest election results - a hell of a lot more than Republicans.
 
Pro forest management including some logging to pay for brush removal. It's a pretty simple concept. Most people get it. There's no need to be "pro-logging", that's just a stupid strawman.

You think you can take something to an extreme, build a strawman, and confront someone who's highly educated and experienced in the subject? Laughable. What a dumbass joke.
Hey, don't make it about me.

Most people aren't eco-activists, but a lot of lefties actually are, or overtly side with them.

Tree huggers aren't so-called such out of thin air. Yano?

Hey, I merely called you on a misleading assertion. You made a bold blanket statement and I am just proving that blanket doesn't stretch near as far as you try to make it seem.

You know that, I know that... we all know that.
 
Reporter to Trump in California:
"Mr President have you changed your opinion about Climate Change?"

Trump reply:
"I feel very strongly that we will have great climate"

What the f--k does he think he is talking about. Worse, who the heck does he think he is talking to, a MAGA rally?
 
Statement from the California Chaparral Institute ( California Chaparral Institute ).

https://www.facebook.com/californiachaparral/photos/a.130446751017/10156935032936018/?type=3&theater

Here's how to respond to those misleading posts claiming our recent fires are all about tree huggers preventing logging and a supposed fuel build up via past fire suppression.

1. Most of California's most devastating fires were far from any forest (see map below).

2. For those few devastating fires that were near forests, all of those forests around the communities destroyed had the kind of suggested thinning and fuel treatments misinformed commentators claim didn't exist.

3. Much of the area around Paradise that burned in the Camp Fire had burned 10 years ago, had been salvage logged, and was composed of habitats other than forest (e.g. post fire shrublands). The wind-driven ember rain that destroyed the town came primarily from open grassland/post fire/mixed woodland environments northeast of the town. A large percentage of the trees within the devastated town did not burn. See the fire progression map here and match it with the current view on Google Earth:
https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/incident/map/6250/4/90791

4. Climate change is drying the state. Dryer conditions lead to a more flammable landscape. We may see more of the kind of winds that powered the Camp Fire into Paradise. More fires will dramatically alter the kinds of habitats we are used to seeing. Non-native weed filled landscapes that dominate places like Riverside County will likely become more common. More on this issue here:
Loss of chaparral

It is more than discouraging when someone claims our wildfires are all about forests, dead trees, lack of logging, or unnatural fuel build up via past fire suppression. Such claims are a disservice to the families who have lost so much and hamper our efforts to solve the problem.

What is it about? Flammable homes and communities located on flammable terrain.

Trump is a ****ing moron. Anybody who supports him is a ****ing moron.
 
Dumbest. President. Ever. I mean at least in his smaller press conferences he could speak. Now it's just baseless rambling.



The above quote was completely made up by the President of the United States. Nothing in that statement is true.

Trump suggests proper raking might have spared California from its wildfires

Trump may be wrong in this, but so have those who have blamed global warming and republican enemies of the failed Hillary state for the accident.
 
+1 on that

anyone who believes all his bs is a moron!

Fake news! All the right wing media feeding all these dumbazzs the lies!

Rake America Great Again!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Neither actually.

Don't flatter yourself. You are not apparently capable of designating the boundaries of the discussion and the boundaries you have chosen are patently ridiculous...again Trumpian for their absurdity.

Tough to respond to a claim that global warming is causing the fires any other way. Its not like anyone is saying that global warming can be reversed next year.
 
Tough to respond to a claim that global warming is causing the fires any other way. Its not like anyone is saying that global warming can be reversed next year.

Ah-huh...heard that one five years ago.

The Right's last stand having stood in the way of dealing with Human contribution to Climate Change:
"Well its too late now. Guess we will just have to live [or die] with it."

We actually still have a chance to reverse this mess but not with knuckleheads around that will think up every possible excuse to do nothing and now a President that actually had the audacity to remove Climate Change from the Government Lexicon.

But go ahead. Live in denial all you want. Hopefully there will be enough time to save your miserable butt along with everybody else's. Those with a brain have determined to just ignore those that still won't get it as they gurgle gurgle drown, go up in smoke or suffocate in mid-western dust bowls. Watch, when the mid-western droughts get too unmanageable they will be whining to the government to bail their miserable butt ends out having ignored the issues that drive their problem all the way down the line.
 
Sorry, do you have a non major fake news source? You know, one we all can trust?

Are you serious? This is the rebuttal you're going with? I guess your done son, thanks for playing.
 
Shrug. Take your flat ball with you.

I mean for real...how hard is it to accumulate the vote count for each State regarding the Senate and each district regarding the House?

Look at Trumps propaganda State news site https://www.foxnews.com/midterms-2018

Then compare to NY Times https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/06/us/elections/results-senate-elections.html

When looking at each state the numbers are identical....NY Times just added it all up and Faux did not....Sorry for your loss.
 
Actually if you are referring to Trump...absolutely. Both are Dem strongholds.

Its true. He sent assistance to deep red states Florida and Texas but California and Puerto Rico he doesn't give a sh*** about. President Obama sent assistance to any state - even if the state hated his guts eg. Louisiana.
 
Dumbest. President. Ever. I mean at least in his smaller press conferences he could speak. Now it's just baseless rambling.



The above quote was completely made up by the President of the United States. Nothing in that statement is true.

Trump suggests proper raking might have spared California from its wildfires

Did you see that he tried to throw Finland under the bus by claiming he was told by someone in a position of authority there that they don't have wildfires because they rake, only to have that person come out publicly and say that he never said that?

Trump lied. Again.
 
Did you see that he tried to throw Finland under the bus by claiming he was told by someone in a position of authority there that they don't have wildfires because they rake, only to have that person come out publicly and say that he never said that?

Trump lied. Again.

I would never want to talk to trump now knowing that he will just use my own words against me and claim I said something I never did.


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