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Trump scraps Biden drilling, electric vehicle and climate policies in bid to lower prices

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Trump scraps Biden drilling, electric vehicle and climate policies in bid to lower prices

Trumponomics has roared back into the White House.
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Trump declared a national emergency on energy, aimed at unlocking “different authorities that will enable our nation to quickly build again, to produce more natural resources,” according to an official.

Another one of Trump’s orders lifts Biden’s restrictions on drilling for oil in Alaska, including the now-former president’s 2023 restriction on Arctic Ocean drilling and his ban announced this month on drilling off the US coastline, including in the Bering Sea.

That order will facilitate the “unleashing Alaska’s potential as an energy reservoir for the entire nation,” an aide told Trump as he presented the document for his signature.
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Yes! The climate cult scam on taxpayers is dead! Woohooo! Go Trump! (y)
 
Well, that’s if any companies actually want to invest the money to operate in any places covered by the federal order with regard to drilling.

They didn’t during Trump 1.0 - and locals fought and won blocking drilling in areas during 1.0 because of the adverse impact drilling would have on local industries and lands/ocean.

I suspect much of the same with 2.0

This is largely symbolic when it comes to federal lands and drilling.

MAGAs gobble up their bullshit though, don’t they? 😂
 
I would prefer an honest look at the data related to Human caused climate change.
In science hypothesis are supposed to be challenged, that has not really happened in AGW.
 
longview said:
I would prefer an honest look at the data related to Human caused climate change.
In science hypothesis are supposed to be challenged, that has not really happened in AGW.
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Speaking of which… the round earth hypothesis has not been challenged much either. In science hypotheses are supposed to be challenged, and that has not really happened.
 
longview said:
I would prefer an honest look at the data related to Human caused climate change.
In science hypothesis are supposed to be challenged, that has not really happened in AGW.
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Have to agree. IMHO, the left has found what they believe is their perfect crisis in global warming. Unfortunately, the science hasn't conclusively proven the belief, and sadly, what "science" seemingly has, has mostly been "fit" to meet the belief, not justify the hypotheses.
 
EdwinWillers said:
Have to agree. IMHO, the left has found what they believe is their perfect crisis in global warming. Unfortunately, the science hasn't conclusively proven the belief, and sadly, what "science" seemingly has, has mostly been "fit" to meet the belief, not justify the hypotheses.
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I'm very interested in reviewing your study. Link?
 
EdwinWillers said:
Have to agree. IMHO, the left has found what they believe is their perfect crisis in global warming. Unfortunately, the science hasn't conclusively proven the belief, and sadly, what "science" seemingly has, has mostly been "fit" to meet the belief, not justify the hypotheses.
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Oh.....I seriously doubt that you'd have the first foggiest clue about any of that stuff Edwin. LOL. smh
 
PoS said:
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Trump scraps Biden drilling, electric vehicle and climate policies in bid to lower prices

Trumponomics has roared back into the White House.
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Yes! The climate cult scam on taxpayers is dead! Woohooo! Go Trump! (y)
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I'm in favor of his actions in this regard - particularly w/r to the notion that global warming, or cooling, or whatever the nom-du-jour is, is human caused.

That said, I don't see a warrant for eliminating altogether research in the area of climate change in general and more specifically in the advancement of economically feasible alternative energies.

We're facing a huge, pending dilemma in energy and in particular energy distribution/transmission that I think has unfortunately been linked with the AGW debate. I'd like to see us decouple the two and focus on the above with greater vigor.
 
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Trump orders include reversing a policy of pushing carmakers to make 50% of their output be electric vehicles by 2030
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This part especially doesn’t help American auto makers.

We are already WAY behind global competition in the electric vehicle market and will now fall farther behind.

Chinese are crushing us - and this action won’t help.

The US has decided to look backwards instead of to the future. So, 🤷‍♀️

We will fall further behind.
 
Trump’s “drill baby, drill” initiative (to greatly increase US ‘fossil fuels’ production) will have limited impact. Once the global ‘fossil fuels’ price drops closer to its profitable to produce in the US level then any US ‘fossil fuels’ production ‘boom’ will level off.
 
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ataraxia said:
Speaking of which… the round earth hypothesis has not been challenged much either. In science hypotheses are supposed to be challenged, and that has not really happened.
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Well that the earth was round was proven about 300 BCE, by an experiment that could be repeated any day the sun shines.
The hypothesis that added CO2 will cause warming, has no such repeatable experiment.
When they put the CERES instruments up on satellites they were hoping for actual empirical evidence that
the added CO2 was adding to Earth's energy imbalance by decreasing the Outbound Longwave Radiation, (OLR).
Unfortunately, what the instruments have recorded since 2000 is that the OLR has been increasing as the CO2 levels increased.
Observational Assessment of Changes in Earth’s Energy Imbalance Since 2000
The increase is the result of a 0.9 ± 0.3 Wm−2 increase absorbed solar radiation (ASR)
that is partially offset by a 0.4 ± 0.25 Wm−2 increase in outgoing longwave radiation (OLR).
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In Hansen's 1998 study, there was no ambiguity on how much energy imbalance he expected from added CO2.
Radiative Forcing and Climate Response
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We can compare what he expected to what was observed.
He expected that 2XCO2 would cause a Top of Atmosphere Energy imbalance in the Radiative Flux (Longwave energy imbalance)
would be a positive 2.62 W m-2.
NOAA's AGGI shows the the CO2-eq increased from 454 ppm in 2000 to 534 ppm in 2023.
Using Hansen's number this should produce positive forcing of 2.62/ln(2) = 3.78, so 3.78 X ln(534/454) =+0.61 W m-2.
What was observed was -0.4 W m-2. Not only is the amount off, but so is the sign!
 
BirdinHand said:
This part especially doesn’t help American auto makers.

We are already WAY behind global competition in the electric vehicle market and will now fall farther behind.

Chinese are crushing us - and this action won’t help.

The US has decided to look backwards instead of to the future. So, 🤷‍♀️

We will fall further behind.
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Consumers' interest in EVs just isn't there. If anything, its waning. So the notion of "falling behind" in a market in which few consumers are interested doesn't have much merit at all.
 
EdwinWillers said:
Consumers' interest in EVs just isn't there. If anything, its waning. So the notion of "falling behind" in a market in which few consumers are interested doesn't have much merit at all.
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The US market lags the world in electric car sales.

The rest of the world? It’s a rapidly expanding market.


China: 37%
Europe: 24%
US: 9.5%


We are falling behind. 🤷‍♀️

But let’s face it - we have been falling behind globally across the board. In numerous metrics.

I don’t see that changing under this administration.
 
longview said:
Well that the earth was round was proven about 300 BCE, by an experiment that could be repeated any day the sun shines.
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Sure. Something only known by a small minority of the educated elites. The "common sense" every man types didn't believe it. For them, it was bull$hit. All you had to do was look at the horizon and know this was just a big government conspiracy to take their money and tell them what to do. These elites needed a Donald Trump back then to come give them a "back to common sense" lecture about that too.

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The question is does the US have the refinery capacity to produce more gas for cars? What good is more oil in the world market if one cannot refine the oil to gas?
 
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