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Trump says he plans to phase out FEMA after 2025 hurricane season

Hey @stealthycat, how much of Donnie telling you to go **** yourself will it take for you to realize he wants you to go **** yourself?

Or will you worship him even after a tornado tears through your home and you can't blame Biden for the lack of disaster reponse?
 
So governors CAN handle massive natural disasters on their own, which can cross state lines, cut communications, and benefit from experts who have operated in more than one state.

But governors CAN'T handle 700 protesters who throw rocks at cops ducking behind riot shields.

Does anyone actually think this makes any sense whatsoever?
 

In three different states I volunteered to work with state emergency planning, mitigation and response. The effort by everyone involved is massive. Disaster planning, mitigation and response begins a state level with guidance to local governments. If the disaster is beyond local level, state takes over, if the the disaster is beyond state ability to handle it goes to national level. FEMA is involved state level providing training and resources during the planning and mitigation levels as well. It is most complex.

Donald Trump doesn't know jack about disasters or FEMA. Nor does he care. His plan is to throw all of it to the states - and it would seem that would include the necessary funding. States could be devastated financially if they had to do without the oversight and assistance from FEMA.

Here again, Trump wants to lower the tax burden of the % while forcing states to raise taxes. If Trump/MAGA were able to do that, damn near everyone in every state would feel burden.

Where's the planning? Where's the research and data for Trump's plan? IT DOES NOT EXIST. Here again Trump/MAGA has not and cannot justify their reasoning.

There is no disaster in LA. No insurrection. No rebellion. California did not request assistance from the federal government. However, Trump could not wait to jump in and involve the federal government. Again no planning. He just did it. But God forbid a state needs help in a disaster Trump will tell them to piss off. Something is very wrong with that picture.
 
Intellectually dishonest post. Trump's plans are to phase out FEMA, not phase out aid. FEMA has performed very poorly. As the victims of the hurricane in North Carolina. After FEMA is phased out, rather than DC bureaucrats dispersing aid, the money will go directly to the affected states and state and local governments will disperse it.
 
Let me quote the article and emphasize the relevant portions.

President Donald Trump said Tuesday that he plans to phase out the Federal Emergency Management Agency after this year’s hurricane season, offering the clearest timeline yet for his administration’s long-term plans to dismantle the disaster relief agencyand shift responsibility for response and recovery onto states.

“We want to wean off of FEMA, and we want to bring it down to the state level,” Trump told reporters during a briefing in the Oval Office, later saying, “A governor should be able to handle it, and frankly, if they can’t handle it, the aftermath, then maybe they shouldn’t be governor.”

That clearly says that the federal government is shifting responsibility to the states. Nothing dishonest with the post.
 
stealthycat said:
States Rights are important


Its funny how liberals want the Fed Govt to be involved (a hurricane) and then NOT want them to be involved (riots/looting in LA)

Which is it ?

I imagine FEMA will not go away, I don't think Trump can disassemble that
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Tell us that you don’t know that a governor has to request FEMAs assistance without telling us.



Every time you post, I swear you reveal more and more just how little you know.
 
FEMA is the central planning organization that coordinates interstate aid and contracts and makes sure people get paid and contracts are in place ahead of time.

You think those linemen from across the country just show up out of goodwill?



Man, this is going to be really funny to watch when Florida takes a hurricane in the face and no one shows up to turn the power back on because Dementia Donnie dismantled FEMA and none of the other states are willing to go in and do work because there’s no guarantee they’re going to get paid.
 
stealthycat said:
States Rights are important


Its funny how liberals want the Fed Govt to be involved (a hurricane) and then NOT want them to be involved (riots/looting in LA)

Which is it ?

I imagine FEMA will not go away, I don't think Trump can disassemble that
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Donald Trump isn't that much for state rights when it comes to California. Link
 
stealthycat said:
States Rights are important
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They should be.

stealthycat said:
Its funny how liberals want the Fed Govt to be involved (a hurricane) and then NOT want them to be involved (riots/looting in LA)

Which is it ?
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Easy. This is how our system is set up.
One is a job that requires a national response - or a state could easily be overwhelmed. Hence the word 'disaster'.
The other is a local law enforcement responsibility.
IF more is needed, the state can request it, and the Federal government can help.
When everyone follows the plan, it works out.
When someone chooses to muck things up - like Trump has - it doesn't work so well.
We are supposed to be UNITED.
I don't know what Trump is trying to do, but it the opposite of UNITED.

stealthycat said:
I imagine FEMA will not go away, I don't think Trump can disassemble that
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He's managed to damage of lot of our government that he should not have been able to.
 
MAGAnificent said:
Intellectually dishonest post. Trump's plans are to phase out FEMA, not phase out aid.
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1. So you've seen the Trump plan? Please send us a link. I have not seen it.

2. I'm very interested in understanding how Trump will phase out FEMA but not phase out aid. Who will conduct planning at the national level? Who will review state plans? Who will coordinate after action reports to states? Who will coordinate the efforts of national organizations such as the Red Cross or St. Vincent de Paul? There are many.

3. Who will develop the acceptable standards in all stages of disaster planning, mitigation and response? Who will measure the effectiveness of each for each state?

4. Who will develop and review the criteria for determining the allocation of federal funding? When a disaster occurs response timelines are critical and they must be standardized and adhered to. If state X get's wacked big time one hell of a lot of people will be without shelter, food, medication, clothing, more things than I ever realized. People in dire need cannot wait for life sustaining support. If they have to wait for approval on President Trump's timeline - assuming he has one - it could be weeks! People will die needlessly.

I'm just scratching the surface. There are soooooo many things that must be addressed. Please send Trump's plan. I can't find it.

5. What is your state plan? I can tell you that Arizona's State Plan has been classified for several years now. It wasn't until 911. Look at your state plan and see how it would work without FEMA.

MAGAnificent said:
FEMA has performed very poorly.
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6. COMPARED TO WHAT? That is a big question. Your response will be interesting.

MAGAnificent said:
As the victims of the hurricane in North Carolina.
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MAGAnificent said:
After FEMA is phased out, rather than DC bureaucrats dispersing aid, the money will go directly to the affected states and state and local governments will disperse it.
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How is that going to work? Who will determine what financial support a state receives? What will the criteria be? Who will determine the criteria?

Look, I performed grunt work. I attended all the meetings and trainings. I worked where they needed me. I learned a lot. FEMA and all involved impressed the hell out of me. State level people were awesome.

During and after the disasters the hours and work were often brutal but those people kept at it day and night and weekends. It was an honor to work beside them. I saw and learned things I'll never forget. Hard decisions were made by dedicated professionals. So you tell me FEMA performed poorly. In what instances and when? How do you know where the performance was performed poorly?
 
Risky Thicket said:
So you tell me FEMA performed poorly. In what instances and when? How do you know where the performance was performed poorly?
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I'm pretty sure he's just trolling for attention.

Getting into ignorable territory.
 

Under this type of plan who in the federal govt. will ensure the States are distributing and using the funds as intended?

This reminds me of the same approach the first Trump administration took when covid began to expand. At first the States had to find for themselves to find additional PPE and other needed medical supplies. Rich states could out bid poorer States. Eventually the feds had to take over and make the distribution more logical and fairer.
 

Like every other agency/org he & his pill-popping fool Mush have hacked up (or tried) or shut down completely (or tried), he doesn't fully understand all that they do. All he cares about is putting another √ on his Project 2025 chart and damn the consequences.
 
mike2810 said:
Under this type of plan who in the federal govt. will ensure the States are distributing and using the funds as intended?
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Considering the track record of Trump Term 2.0? Highly likely another unqualified moron who would screw up being "the bank" while playing Monopoly.
 
This is amazing.

If the forest catches fire, states get nothing. If a car is set on fire, states get 4,000 NG troops and 700 marines. Simply amazing.

What would Trump do if protesters started a car on fire in the forest? Would the marines be armed with rakes?
 

I imagine they do want to continue getting hundreds of millions - its a cash cow for sure
 
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