Trump says he is suing Twitter, Facebook, Google and CEOs Dorsey, Zuckerberg, Pichai

[madman]

Looking at Parlors TOS:
I lol a bit:

While the First Amendment does not apply to private companies such asParler,our mission is to create a social platform in the spiritof the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

There it is! even they know it
and

We prefer that removing usersoruser-provided content bekept to the absolute minimum.

ohhh, so Parler will remove users comment if they deem it unacceptable? so much for feedom of spek

 

[smb3802]

Yes, and we feel the same about you. Biden is a real winner. Harris is worse. Half of the population doesn't like them. That's what you dumb Democrats don't seem to understand. We love our country unlike most of you whining libs.

Example one of the hypocrisy of the right. Telling us they love the country but only if it is filled with people who agree with them. The arrogance of their own self assured righteousness is an anathema to very principles the nation was founded on.

 

[Visbek]

The First Amendment prohibits government censorship. We all agree.

Well, when Big Tech censors information, it may be doing so at the "request" of the government.

Therefore, the government is censoring information.

That's... not how it works.

In case you missed it, the media constantly publishes information despite the wishes or requests of government.

I mean, really. Mainstream and social media released and distributed a torrent of negative stories about Trump -- despite explicit threats by Trump to punish them. That included throwing journalists out of press conferences; threatening to pull FCC licenses from NBC; threatening to repeal Section 230... the list goes on.

They did the same during the Obama administration, which tried to prosecute... wait for it... leaks to the press.

Facebook barring anti-vax lies would only be unconstitutional if Congress literally passed a law stating "no one can publish or distribute anti-vaccine documents." Voluntarily withholding or censoring misinformation is 100% legit.

I know that it will be super difficult to prove that Big Tech is doing the secret bidding of the government.

Which government? You mean, the Trump administration? Did you miss how Trump was booted from Facebook at the end of his term?!?

We can only hope that someday a jury will so rule.

Or, we can hope that the courts will toss this out with the trash, like they have all of these other frivolous and poorly constructed lawsuits.

Seriously, dude, this filing is a bad joke. The only reason it exists is to (yet again) fleece the suckers.

 

[Carl Young]

Is that what is happening in Canada?

It is known that big money can influence politicians. The question is what did Facebook or Twitter gain by terminating/locking Trump out?

They claimed the playing field for the Leftists. They now largely control the public dialogue and, making the situation even worse, is that leftists are self censoring and advising each other what they can read, hear and watch. That's why the majority of them are so very poorly informed.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Here's a hypothetical analogy for you..... Let's say you are an uneducated woman living alone in the Ozarks with your two adult dimwitted sons. Now, let's say, you fancy a guy in town named Joey, but Joey has snubbed your advances. The snub hurt you deeply. That hurt you feel, you instantly transfer into anger. And now, you want revenge, so you tell your dimwitted sons that Joey stole your crack pipe and won't give it back. When her Sons hear this, what do you think her sons are gunna do to Joey? And yes, in this hypothetical scenario her Sons are Democratic progressive democrats.

No. This hypothetical is to illustrate that the mother ( Donald) doesnt have to ask her dimwitted sons ( Donald's supporters) to do anything. They ( Donald's supporters) instinctively share their mothers (Donald's) anger and lash out at those they percieve have wronged them (those certifying the election). It's human nature.

 

[joko104]

Give her one of their crack pipes?

I didn't treat the message I was quoting seriously because it is more grotesque Democratic Party style racism - setting aside she calls me a crackhead, ie criminal, in the message.

The only way "crack pipe" comes into it is asserting a poor woman in the Ozarks is a crackhead - not even bothering to ever say that - and that woman is me. The messages doesn't say her/"you" uses crack or even had a crack pipe, just tells sons one was stolen from her.

I have no idea what her sons would do. I would think most would seek help for the mother and be glad it's gone, maybe contact the police about the theft. So I have no clue what her bizarro insulting message's point is.

 

[joko104]

No. This hypothetical is to illustrate that the mother ( Donald) doesnt have to ask her dimwitted sons ( Donald's supporters) to do anything. They ( Donald's supporters) instinctively share their mothers (Donald's) anger and lash out at those they percieve have wronged them (those certifying the election). It's human nature.

Wow, what a confession as to YOUR ethics and conduct. The only way you would assert the Sons would go lash out at the thief is because that is what you would do. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone else would go berserk over a crack pipe, but you assert everyone would - and you are in the class of everyone for which you can ONLY know what YOU would do. Apparent to your message, and "lash out." That isn't human nature, but you admit it's your's. Sad.

I think you point is that Democrat Stacy Abrams caused the Atlanta riots and still promotes riots by continuing to refuse to concede. I'm sure you can link to messages of you claiming that, can't you? How many times have your rioted in Alabama for this reason since, in your words, "that's just human nature?"

 

[jaeger19]

So you've seen the thread on the pillow guy where leftists openly admit their fears. I thought these 'safe space' areas for leftists was a joke but they really do seem to be genuinely afraid.

Yeah.. I gotta say.. it seems the right wing is the one thats so afraid nowadays.

QAnon
Vaccine fears
Masks emasculate you
CRT is going to cause psychological abuse
Elections are rigged
America is becoming communist
Antifa and BLM are terrorists coming for white people.

Cripes..one conspiracy to the next.

I haven;t seen one good goofy lefty conspiracy...

 

[Carl Young]

Example one of the hypocrisy of the right. Telling us they love the country but only if it is filled with people who agree with them. The arrogance of their own self assured righteousness is an anathema to very principles the nation was founded on.

Yes, Republicans do often say how they love their country while Leftists are often lying in order to encourage racial hatreds. There is quite a difference now. https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/rep-c...4-celebrations-black-people-still-arent-free/

 

[Carl Young]

Yeah.. I gotta say.. it seems the right wing is the one thats so afraid nowadays.

QAnon
Vaccine fears
Masks emasculate you
CRT is going to cause psychological abuse
Elections are rigged
America is becoming communist
Antifa and BLM are terrorists coming for white people.

Cripes..one conspiracy to the next.

I haven;t seen one good goofy lefty conspiracy...

Then you accept what Congresswoman West says about Black people not being free?

 

[BitterPill]

Yes, Republicans do often say how they love their country while Leftists are often lying in order to encourage racial hatreds. There is quite a difference now. https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/rep-c...4-celebrations-black-people-still-arent-free/

Well said.

We love our country so much we stormed the Capital.

MAGA.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

Wow, what a confession as to YOUR ethics and conduct. The only way you would assert the Sons would go lash out at the thief is because that is what you would do. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone else would go berserk over a crack pipe, but you assert everyone would - and you are in the class of everyone for which you can ONLY know what YOU would do. Apparent to your message, and "lash out." That isn't human nature, but you admit it's your's. Sad.

Donald didn't have to tell his dimwitted followers to "stop the steal".... All he had to do was say the election had been stolen from him. Base, unevolved Human nature did the rest.

 

[Carl Young]

Well said.

We love our country so much we stormed the Capital.

MAGA.

Some did.

 

[BlueTex]

So you've seen the thread on the pillow guy where leftists openly admit their fears. I thought these 'safe space' areas for leftists was a joke but they really do seem to be genuinely afraid.

Afraid of Mike Lindell? Good lord... Lindell is a bigger idiot than Trump by far....

 

[smb3802]

Yes, Republicans do often say how they love their country while Leftists are often lying in order to encourage racial hatreds. There is quite a difference now. https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/rep-c...4-celebrations-black-people-still-arent-free/

Lying about people calling the cops on black people or shopping at walmart for BB guns? Lying about black people or getting the cops called on them for bird watching in a public park? Lying about black people getting bullied by their neighbors. The only thing more hypocritical and stupid than saying Democrats are lying about racism in this country is believing that racism doesn't exist. If you truly loved this country you would be doing everything you could to call out and end racism in this nation instead of rah rah your idiotic identity politics team.

 

[ElChupacabra]

So the short of this is:

1. Trump gets kicked off of Facebook and Twitter
2. Trump starts his own blog so he won't be silenced
3. Blog underperforms, and as a result he shuts it down
4. Trump realizes social media is hard
5. Trump sues social media companies so he can be let back in because social media is hard
6. Trump immediately turns this into a fund raising event to receive donations from his base

If you get kicked out of a party because you acted like a tool, trying to force your way back in rarely ends well. I read through the filing, and I suspect it will go down in flames like many of his lawsuits.

 

[Crakhobarbie]

So the short of this is:

1. Trump gets kicked off of Facebook and Twitter
2. Trump starts his own blog so he won't be silenced
3. Blog underperforms, and as a result he shuts it down
4. Trump realizes social media is hard
5. Trump sues social media companies so he can be let back in because social media is hard

If you get kicked out of a party because you acted like a tool, trying to force your way back in rarely ends well. I read through the filing, and I suspect it will go down in flames like many of his lawsuits.

This about sums it up. Well said.

 

[TimPatriot]

LOL... There is NO first amendment right to a twitter, facebook or google account... He will be destroyed in court...

1) They have to deal with 230. If they are a platform then they should not be weighing in on content like they do. If they are going to do that, then they do not have liability protection.

2) If it is shown they have been coordinating with the government (which everyone on the right already knows and Dr. Shiva has a lawsuit with evidence in MA about this), then all bets are off. The government, or elements therein, cannot go around 1st Amendment by having a third party do the censoring for them.

As well, Professor Epstein has made data supported arguments that Google can sway an election result upwards of 10 points. Why do we allow big tech with their own agenda to so influence our elections? It's outrageous and I think this suit is long overdue and glad that Trump is pursuing it. Free speech advocates on the left (like Naomi Wolf) are also applauding the lawsuit.

 

[joko104]

Donald didn't have to tell his dimwitted followers to "stop the steal".... All he had to do was say the election had been stolen from him. Base, unevolved Human nature did the rest.

It was stolen. Regardless, it is free speech. People saying the election was stolen is nothing new.

 

[BlueTex]

1) They have to deal with 230. If they are a platform then they should not be weighing in on content like they do. If they are going to do that, then they do not have liability protection.

2) If it is shown they have been coordinating with the government (which everyone on the right already knows and Dr. Shiva has a lawsuit with evidence in MA about this), then all bets are off. The government, or elements therein, cannot go around 1st Amendment by having a third party do the censoring for them.

As well, Professor Epstein has made data supported arguments that Google can sway an election result upwards of 10 points. Why do we allow big tech with their own agenda to so influence our elections? It's outrageous and I think this suit is long overdue and glad that Trump is pursuing it. Free speech advocates on the left (like Naomi Wolf) are also applauding the lawsuit.

In your imagination, who has to "deal with 230"?

Great... Let's go to discovery and put the lead plaintiff, FORMER President Trump under oath for his deposition.... We can clear up all these bullshit theories real quick...

 

[TimPatriot]

In your imagination, who has to "deal with 230"?

Duh. Flippant question, flippant answer.

Great... Let's go to discovery and put the lead plaintiff, FORMER President Trump under oath for his deposition.... We can clear up all these bullshit theories real quick...

 

[Carl Young]

Afraid of Mike Lindell? Good lord... Lindell is a bigger idiot than Trump by far....

Speaking of idiots, did you see the response from leftists on the Mike Lindell thread? They admit their fears from a guy with a pillow. Scary stuff,

BTW, if you can't respond to the question just let it go.

 

[ElChupacabra]

For anyone interested in reading this fantasy... Here is the lawsuit...

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I like this part....

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Yeah, good luck with that one. The idea Facebook's status rises beyond a private company because of willful participation with federal actors is quite the leap. In terms of precedent, that would essentially make any company which has any kind of "willful participation in joint activity with federal actors" a state actor. Yeah, I wouldn't place my bets on that one.

 

[ElChupacabra]

This about sums it up. Well said.

I added the point about him turning it into a fund raising event. You can't make this stuff up.

 

[BlueTex]

Yeah, good luck with that one. The idea Facebook's status rises beyond a private company because of willful participation with federal actors is quite the leap. In terms of precedent, that would essentially make any company which has any kind of "willful participation in joint activity with federal actors" a state actor. Yeah, I wouldn't place my bets on that one.

Do you think executives at Raytheon are shaking in their boots tonight?