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Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal

How so?? Cohen has been Trump's personal lawyer for many years up until this year.
Unless Cohen took that money right out of the campaign coffers, there were no laws broken,.
And I have yet to see evidence Cohen used campaign money to pay these women off
Bottom line, because Cohen’s payment to Daniels exceeded the maximum allowed “campaign contribution” limit of $2,700.

Cohen, at the direction of Trump, paying off a liaison to keep mum is viewed as a campaign contribution (I know it sounds crazy, but it’s true). If it can be proven that Trump directed Cohen to make the payment that would make him an accomplice. Trump paying Cohen back later, regardless of that money’s source is irrelevant as the crime has already been committed.

Funny thing is that Trump could have paid Daniels with his own money in the first place and that would have been legit. Only drawback would be that he’d have to include the payment in his FEC filings.
 
Weak sauce.

Whomever he PAYS OFF....DURING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN....absolutely is EVERY American's "business".

There are these things called campaign finance laws.

And of course, Melania might consider it her business.
 
Allright, so I'll ask for a 3rd time. Where is the proof Trump paid $$ from his campaign funds

i don't do ignore the link. see you at "so what."
 
Bottom line, because Cohen’s payment to Daniels exceeded the maximum allowed “campaign contribution” limit of $2,700.

Cohen, at the direction of Trump, paying off a liaison to keep mum is viewed as a campaign contribution (I know it sounds crazy, but it’s true). If it can be proven that Trump directed Cohen to make the payment that would make him an accomplice. Trump paying Cohen back later, regardless of that money’s source is irrelevant as the crime has already been committed.

Funny thing is that Trump could have paid Daniels with his own money in the first place and that would have been legit. Only drawback would be that he’d have to include the payment in his FEC filings
Even if all this is true, and it can be proven so, the maximum Trump can get is a fine. Its not an impeachable offence.
Bill Clinton and Bernie Sanders were also found guilty of campaign finance irregularities, and were merely given a large fine.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...anders-donors-who-are-giving-too-much/482418/

1996 Fund-Raising Scandals Bring Stiff Penalty - latimes
 
Even if all this is true, and it can be proven so, the maximum Trump can get is a fine. Its not an impeachable offence.
Bill Clinton and Bernie Sanders were also found guilty of campaign finance irregularities, and were merely given a large fine.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...anders-donors-who-are-giving-too-much/482418/
1996 Fund-Raising Scandals Bring Stiff Penalty - latimes
Whether or not it’s an impeachable offense is up to Congress to decide, however, knowingly and willfully filing fraudulent FEC reports is a criminal offense that can land the offenders in prison for up to 5 years.
https://www.justice.gov/criminal/file/1029066/download
“52U.S.C.§30109(d). FECA crimes aggregating $25,000 or more are five-year felonies, and those that involve illegal conduit contributions”
For a simpler explanation read this article: https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/5374619/donald-trump-campaign-finance-law-crimes
Personally, I believe Trump has reason to worry about potentially much greater difficulties if his tax records are subpoenaed.
 
i live in actual reality. good luck with your alternate one
Helix, no offence but I prefer to go with the expert opinion on this one:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...rmy_daniels_payment_probably_not_a_crime.html

Dershowitz: Stormy Daniels Is A "Nothing" Case And "Sideshow,"

Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz weighs in on the potential legal fallout over the president's former attorney striking a plea deal on campaign finance violations, in an appearance on Wednesday morning's 'FOX & Friends.'

"The death knell that they're sounding on cable television sounds a little bit exaggerated. There are many, many steps that have to be taken before the president is in legal jeopardy," Dershowitz said. "First of all, you have to show that it is a crime."

"If Mr. Trump the candidate contributed several hundred thousand dollars to his own campaign to pay hush money to women who were either truthfully or falsely alleging against him, that is not a crime. The candidate can contribute as much as he wants. If he directed somebody to do it, intending to pay it back, that is probably not a crime."

"The election laws are a morass of misdemeanors, felonies, crimes, non-crimes, with exceptions, so you have to get over the legal barrier first" also said. "Then you have to get over the credibility barrier. The only evidence that the president did anything that might be unlawful even arguably comes from a man who has admitted to be a liar, had a lawyer-client privilege with the president, there are a lot of barriers to what Cohen said yesterday in court. Remember, there has been no indictment, grand jury, only a statement, an elocution, by a man who has admitted to criminal conduct. So we are far away fro impeachable offense or a criminal offense against the president."

"I think if you read my book, The Case Against Impeaching Trump, I think it makes a very persuasive case that you can't impeach on the basis of minor derelictions or even crimes. You need a high crime and misdemeanor. Every campaign has violated some technical election law."

"The Democrats are going to run on 'Give us the House and we'll impeach the president.' That's what happened when President Clinton was impeached, and it ended up being a disaster for the Republicans because the Senate refused to remove him," he added. "I think impeachment will be an issue, but... at least according to my research... the president has not up to now committed any impeachable offenses."
 
Helix, no offence but I prefer to go with the expert opinion on this one:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...rmy_daniels_payment_probably_not_a_crime.html

i'll go with the law, thanks.

the law said:
A contribution is anything of value given, loaned or advanced to influence a federal election.

https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/candidate-taking-receipts/types-contributions/

if you don't so what soon, i'm going to lose interest in this discussion.
 
Read up on federal campaign finance laws.

Ignorance of the law is never an excuse.
But he didn't ask you what federal campaign finance laws were. He asked for proof/evidence that these laws were broken.
 
Who he sleeps with is nobody's business

The rules have changed since Clinton was in office.

But this about Trump Being a liar, and possibly committing a crime. Crimes no longer matter now either. Trumpers excuse everything Trump does.
 
I really hate the whole

“Well if a Republican had said that” or “well if a Democrat had done this”.

But in this particular case, could you imagine how Republicans would have reacted, had it turned out Obama had ****ed porn stars and paid them hush money...

Those same people who completely dismiss this as nothing... well their heads would literally ****ing explode if Obama had done this, Republicans and everyone of their supporters on this forum would have called for his impeachment and his head on a plate.

And it shows once and for all the staggering and unrepentant self righteousness of social conservatives that want to force their regressive beliefs on everyone else, but will stand by someone like Trump.

If Obama was banging white porn stars, and grabbing white woman *****, it would have been far more scandalous than all that Bill Clinton stuff.
 
Its interesting that you Libs complained so hard aboot Clinton being persecuted for who he slept with, and yet here you are all doing the exact same thing

Clinton was a slime ball, but he is still a far better man than Trump. I personally don't think Clinton treated many women well, neither does Trump, but Trump insults his wife and his own daughter. What kind of person refers to their own daughter as a piece of ass? Trump is disgusting. There is no point in trying to moralize anything about his behavior or conduct.

Trump's sex life is the least concerning thing about him, and he has many scandals, but it is another revealing fact about how dishonest and immoral of a character he is.
 
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