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Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal

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Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal: WSJ

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11/9/18
President Donald Trump played a key role in silencing porn star Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal, who both claimed to have had affairs with the president. Media executive David Pecker met with Trump multiple times to discuss using the National Enquirer tabloid to buy the silence of women he allegedly slept with, according to a new report from The Wall Street Journal. The publication said it spoke to three dozen people with direct knowledge of the payments. The U.S. Attorneys Office in Manhattan now has evidence of Trump’s role in the hush payments, according to the WSJ. He previously denied having knowledge about the payments. In October 2016, when discussing making a payment to Daniels, Trump told his then-attorney Michael Cohen to “get it done.”

I distinctly remember the press questions to Trump and his replies on April 5, 2018 aboard Air Force One.....

Q: "Mr. President, did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?"
Trump: "No."
Q: "Then why did Michael -- why did Michael Cohen make this payment if there was no truth too the allegations?"
Trump: "Well you'll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney, and you'll have to ask Michael."
Q: "Do you know where he got the money to make that payment?"
Trump: "No. I don't know."

Three Trump answers, three Trump three lies. If the American public is aware that Trump is a serial adulterer prior to the election, he doesn't get elected.

Related: WSJ: What Trump Did to Silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal
 

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Who he sleeps with is nobody's business

Weak sauce.

Whomever he PAYS OFF....DURING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN....absolutely is EVERY American's "business".

There are these things called campaign finance laws.
 

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Who he sleeps with is nobody's business

There's plenty here to keep law enforcement busy. Especially with the testimony of Michael Cohen.
 

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I really hate the whole

“Well if a Republican had said that” or “well if a Democrat had done this”.

But in this particular case, could you imagine how Republicans would have reacted, had it turned out Obama had ****ed porn stars and paid them hush money...

Those same people who completely dismiss this as nothing... well their heads would literally ****ing explode if Obama had done this, Republicans and everyone of their supporters on this forum would have called for his impeachment and his head on a plate.

And it shows once and for all the staggering and unrepentant self righteousness of social conservatives that want to force their regressive beliefs on everyone else, but will stand by someone like Trump.
 

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Weak sauce.

Whomever he PAYS OFF....DURING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN....absolutely is EVERY American's "business".

There are these things called campaign finance laws
Where is the proof he used campaign money??

We already went through this with Stormy Daniels and found no evidence he did so
 

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Weak sauce.

Whomever he PAYS OFF....DURING A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN....absolutely is EVERY American's "business".

There are these things called campaign finance laws.

stop making sense.
 

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https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/09/tru...to-stormy-daniels-and-karen-mcdougal-wsj.html

you should probably just jump straight to "so what" and skip the intermediate deflection steps to save both of us time on a futile discussion
From your link:

The newspaper, citing dozens of interviews and documents, also reported that Trump MAY have violated federal campaign finance laws through his participation in the deals
He MAY have violated federal campaign finance laws?? Thats your evidence???
Again, I ask where is the evidence Trump used campaign money??

Liberals used this same trick with Stormy Daniels, turns out there was (and still is) zero evidence Trump used campaign money.

Try again
 

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I find it just amazing that this fraud doesn't bother you.

Are you really American?

What??? You didn't believe Donald when he said he could shoot somebody on 5th Av and not lose votes [from the base].

Donald's problem is the base is still the base.....not a sliver larger while Independents abandon him in droves.

To have broken the grip of "Its the Economy stupid" is a stunning bit of comment on Trump popularity. it also suggests that no matter how hard Trump tries to take total credit for the current economic boom, voters neither think it will last long nor that he is as responsible for it as he insists he is. They are right on both scores.
 
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... I ask where is the evidence Trump used campaign money??
Cohen took out a fraudulent loan to pay Daniels off, at the direction of Trump. Trump repaid Cohen. If those things can be proven (entirely possible since Cohen has turned out to be quite the pack rat), that constitutes a violation of campaign finance laws. Face it, neither Cohen or Trump are “geniuses”. Mueller and his team likely already have what they need in this case, which may be small potatoes compared to other possible legal threats Trump (jr, and others in his little circle) faces.
 

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Cohen took out a fraudulent loan to pay Daniels off, at the direction of Trump. Trump repaid Cohen. If those things can be proven (entirely possible since Cohen has turned out to be quite the pack rat), that constitutes a violation of campaign finance laws. Face it, neither Cohen or Trump are “geniuses”. Mueller and his team likely already have what they need in this case, which may be small potatoes compared to other possible legal threats Trump (jr, and others in his little circle) faces
Oh I have no doubt Trump paid both these women off. He didnt want all these headaches right during election time.
But I have yet to see evidence Trump used campaign money, and not his own money.
He couldve very well told Cohen to pay her, and then reimbursed Cohen afterwards
 

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Oh I have no doubt Trump paid both these women off. He didnt want all these headaches right during election time.
But I have yet to see evidence Trump used campaign money, and not his own money.
He couldve very well told Cohen to pay her, and then reimbursed Cohen afterwards
Even If Cohen paid off Daniels with his own money for the purpose of stopping her from going public during the closing days of the campaign at the direction of Trump that is a violation of campaign finance laws.. Whether Trump paid Cohen back with his own money later is irrelevant. The money used to pay off Daniels, because of its intended purpose, is by definition, a campaign contribution. Get it?
 

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Allright, so I'll ask for a 3rd time. Where is the proof Trump paid $$ from his campaign funds

Well obviously we don't have access to the information that Cohen has shared, however anyone with an ounce of intelligence can comfortably assume that Mueller has that information.

Trump has never done things legally, why the **** would he start with bunnies and porn stars.
???

Just common sense.
 

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Even If Cohen paid off Daniels with his own money for the purpose of stopping her from going public during the closing days of the campaign at the direction of Trump that is a violation of campaign finance laws.. Whether Trump paid Cohen back with his own money later is irrelevant. The money used to pay off Daniels, because of its intended purpose, is by definition, a campaign contribution. Get it?
How so?? Cohen has been Trump's personal lawyer for many years up until this year.
Unless Cohen took that money right out of the campaign coffers, there were no laws broken,.
And I have yet to see evidence Cohen used campaign money to pay these women off
 

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Well obviously we don't have access to the information that Cohen has shared, however anyone with an ounce of intelligence can comfortably assume that Mueller has that information.

Trump has never done things legally, why the **** would he start with bunnies and porn stars.
???

Just common sense
Common sense =/= evidence
 

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Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal: WSJ

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I distinctly remember the press questions to Trump and his replies on April 5, 2018 aboard Air Force One.....

Q: "Mr. President, did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?"
Trump: "No."
Q: "Then why did Michael -- why did Michael Cohen make this payment if there was no truth too the allegations?"
Trump: "Well you'll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney, and you'll have to ask Michael."
Q: "Do you know where he got the money to make that payment?"
Trump: "No. I don't know."

Three Trump answers, three Trump three lies. If the American public is aware that Trump is a serial adulterer prior to the election, he doesn't get elected.

Related: WSJ: What Trump Did to Silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal


Says who? He wasn't elected for choir boy. He paid his attorney for his expenses, doing his job.

And?
 

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Where is the proof he used campaign money??

Read up on federal campaign finance laws.

Ignorance of the law is never an excuse.

We already went through this with Stormy Daniels and found no evidence he did so

"We" have done no such thing. For some reason, every right winger in the country seems to be predisposed to delusions like yours. You people simply cannot separate your feelings and opinions from actual FACTS and REALITY.
 

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Trump Personally Facilitated Hush Money Payments To Stormy Daniels And Karen McDougal: WSJ

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I distinctly remember the press questions to Trump and his replies on April 5, 2018 aboard Air Force One.....

Q: "Mr. President, did you know about the $130,000 payment to Stormy Daniels?"
Trump: "No."
Q: "Then why did Michael -- why did Michael Cohen make this payment if there was no truth too the allegations?"
Trump: "Well you'll have to ask Michael Cohen. Michael is my attorney, and you'll have to ask Michael."
Q: "Do you know where he got the money to make that payment?"
Trump: "No. I don't know."

Three Trump answers, three Trump three lies. If the American public is aware that Trump is a serial adulterer prior to the election, he doesn't get elected.

Related: WSJ: What Trump Did to Silence Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal

Let me know when the WSJ names those "three dozen people".

Until then, I consider this the usual rumor mongering from that rag.
 
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