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Trump not ready to commit to election results if he loses

ClaraD said:
they can if he refuses to step down after losing an election or after his term is up.
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No, they can't.
It would not be a military issue.
I don't get you folks--- you have screamed that Trump trashes the Constitution every day, and then propose that a President Biden should stomp all over the document on HIS first day.
 
ClaraD said:
yes, but Biden would be CinC and can order military officers to set him out on the curb.
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true, he'd have backup - and trump isn't the most popular president as far as the military is concerned right now!
 
ClaraD said:
yes, but Biden would be CinC and can order military officers to set him out on the curb.
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No. He can't. The military do not have a role in law enforcement.
Its not their job.
It would be an illegal order.

I don't get it-- there are any number of threads hereabouts now about 'unmarked cars' driven by feds snatching people off the streets. There are boogeyman stories of the federal government seeking to enforce federal law in Chicago or NYC and how <bad> it would be.
When its is being directed by President Trump.
But using the armed service for law enforcement purpose-- sounds swell.
When being directed by a President Biden, that is.
 
rocket88 said:
Of course he's got concerns, the more that vote, the less his chances of winning.
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That's part of it, but there's operational concerns too. You don't get to do trial elections. It's a massive effort that has to work right the first time.

And people cheat. Both sides will look for ways to twist the mail-in election to their advantage.
 
eman623 said:
That's part of it, but there's operational concerns too. You don't get to do trial elections. It's a massive effort that has to work right the first time.

And people cheat. Both sides will look for ways to twist the mail-in election to their advantage.
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Do you realize that mail- in ballots have been in use since the Civil War and Trump himself has been using mail-in ballots to vote?
 
Atomic Kid said:
Do you realize that mail- in ballots have been in use since the Civil War and Trump himself has been using mail-in ballots to vote?
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Yes. Did you know we've never done a 100% 50-state national mail-in ballot election?
 
The slimey Democrats will try and manipulate the votes one way or another and Trump needs to have time to check them out first.
 
eman623 said:
That's part of it, but there's operational concerns too. You don't get to do trial elections. It's a massive effort that has to work right the first time.

And people cheat. Both sides will look for ways to twist the mail-in election to their advantage.
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All very true. Which is why I think he'll use that uncertainty to claim massive fraud and say the election wasn't valid.
 
Trump's only pre-election foreign policy promise, which he fulfilled to the point of a comma, was his vow in a speech to the Zionist lobby in 2016 to become the best american president in history for Israel.
This is from the answer to the question cui bono. That's why the screeching about "Russian Trump" continues. And the "Russian mafia", about which they will increasingly begin to tell, how it bought Trump many years ago, is actually Israeli-Brooklyn mafia.
 
Candyman said:
It's important for him that he get out in front of this. The truth is that if he loses the election he'll vacate the office. There's no doubting that. Whether it's voluntarily is another question. But if he loses he will be gone on Jan 1, 2021. But....he needs to set the tone to keep his drones loyal. He may lose the election, but what is worse for him is to lose the adoration of his sycophants. As long as crowds still cheer for him at appearances he'll not shut up. Hell for him is dying a shriveled old lonely man with no one by his side. But his treatment of people in life certainly suggests that's how he should go.
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Nice win against City!:thumbs:
 
rocket88 said:
All very true. Which is why I think he'll use that uncertainty to claim massive fraud and say the election wasn't valid.
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All throughout the last election campaign he was claiming it was 'rigged'. Not a peep about the alleged rigging when he got the job though. Strange that!
 
rocket88 said:
All very true. Which is why I think he'll use that uncertainty to claim massive fraud and say the election wasn't valid.
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He very well may. Then what?

As Lawrence O'Donnell said last night, "it's not up to him". The beauty of Presidential elections is that they are administered by the states. Trump's levers on federal power are limited to what he can do in the courts. Good luck with that.
 
JackA said:
He very well may. Then what?

As Lawrence O'Donnell said last night, "it's not up to him". The beauty of Presidential elections is that they are administered by the states. Trump's levers on federal power are limited to what he can do in the courts. Good luck with that.
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Limited by the law and Constitution. If it is obeyed....
 
Mugahigh said:
The slimey Democrats will try and manipulate the votes one way or another and Trump needs to have time to check them out first.
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He will have till January 6th 2021 when congress counts the electoral college votes... After that, its official and no give backs...
 
ClaraD said:
they can if he refuses to step down after losing an election or after his term is up.
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No, the military can't do that. That will be the job of law enforcement.
 
ClaraD said:
yes, but Biden would be CinC and can order military officers to set him out on the curb.
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No, he can't do that. He would order the marshal service to do that...lol
 
dcsports said:
OK - You obviously aren't interested in a discussion. Since you are lapsing into personal attacks, I'm assuming you are unable to respond. Take care.
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And you obviously aren't interested in finding the honesty gene and admitting you were 100% wrong when you claimed the DNC kept Clinton hidden, as my link proves the exact opposite to be true.
 
Athanasius68 said:
No. He can't. The military do not have a role in law enforcement.
Its not their job.
It would be an illegal order.

I don't get it-- there are any number of threads hereabouts now about 'unmarked cars' driven by feds snatching people off the streets. There are boogeyman stories of the federal government seeking to enforce federal law in Chicago or NYC and how <bad> it would be.
When its is being directed by President Trump.
But using the armed service for law enforcement purpose-- sounds swell.
When being directed by a President Biden, that is.
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Trump placed our military in the role of law enforcement, so yeah, he can. Especially, since refusing to leave the WH can be considered trying to usurp power.
 
apdst said:
ClaraD said:
Tell that to Trump who uses our military for law enforcement against US citizens on a daily basis.
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When did that happen? :lamo
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ClaraB is wrong to say the military is being used "on a daily basis", however, US Army troops were sent into DC back in June.

Military Chief: Some Troops Mobilized to Protests Given Bayonets | Time

(CHARLOTTE, N.C.) — The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has confirmed a report by The Associated Press that some of the service members who were mobilized to Washington, D.C., last month in response to civil unrest over the killing of George Floyd were issued bayonets. Defense documents obtained by the AP show some were not trained in riot response.

Members of the Army’s 82nd Airborne Division from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment, which is based in D.C. and typically guards the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, were mobilized last month to respond to massive protests over the treatment of Black Americans and systemic issues of police brutality. But the troops were never actually sent to the protests after they arrived.
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