Trump Launches War On Iran

[The Brad Dad]

Regime change executed by outside forces is not in the plan. Read the news.

You mean outside forces brought about by Trump’s new war on Iran. You guys are really convinced you’re walking away from this, eh? lol

 

[Pyrite]

Pyrite said:
Sure, it's a war. Israel started this war Friday a week ago.
And, because Netanyahu needs the USA to join its war against Iran, the POTUS and CinC obligingly did what Netanyahu wanted.

Nope, not yet. Hopefully not. But I know you need this to blow up into a disaster.

Post #2,558

That you don't want to classify Israel's attacks on Iran as a war against that country doesn't change the fact it is.

And that the USA has entered the war against Iran.

 

[L88]

Striking several nuclear facilities of a country of 90 million people that has not directly attacked the U.S. is a significant, offensive act of war requiring the approval of Congress. No President in U.S. history has done anything remotely similar. And you are lying when you suggest otherwise. This is not some random terrorist group. Iran has not directly attacked the U.S. There may be good reasons to attack Iran like this, but it is an illegal act without the approval of Congress.

Sure, I'm sure they'll be impeaching Trump tomorrow.

 

[Hello My Son]

We are on a site where anonymous internet randos share their opinions, and it seems to matter enough. At least most of us know who Luke Skywalker and the person who played him are.

Sharing one’s firsthand opinion is relevant here. Sharing secondhand opinions is rather silly.

It’d be like responding to everybody else’s post with, “Well, my great aunt Ginger thinks [X]” or quoting scripture in response to others. It’s nonsensical.

 

[L88]

Pyrite said:
Sure, it's a war. Israel started this war Friday a week ago.
And, because Netanyahu needs the USA to join its war against Iran, the POTUS and CinC obligingly did what Netanyahu wanted.


Post #2,558

That you don't want to classify Israel's attacks on Iran as a war against that country doesn't change the fact it is.

And that the USA has entered the war against Iran.

When will we have boots on the ground.

 

[Sandy Shanks]

The Framers placed the President in command of America's military. They never imagined that Americans would be foolish enough to elect a man like Trump to the Presidency.

According to Trump's Director of National Intelligence (DNI), Iran is not currently building a nuclear weapon and the Supreme Leader has not authorized the resumption of a weapons program. This assessment is consistent with past intelligence reports.

It is quite likely that Iran does not want a nuke. Iran's bitter enemy, Israel, has between 75 to 200 nukes. (Israel does not publicize her nuclear stockpile.)

NBC reports, "Several members of Congress in both parties Saturday questioned the legality of President Donald Trump’s move to launch military strikes on Iran.."

Like the loyal lapdogs they are, Republicans in Congress fell in line with Trump.

Under Trump's leadership, the United States committed a war of aggression based on Trump's assumption of what Iran may do!

Trump assumed that Iran would make a nuclear bomb. "Iran was very close to having one,” Trump said.

Worse, he then assumed Iran would use the nuclear bomb.

That was not likely. Iran has had the capability to make a nuke for years, and she has not. Why? It is painfully obvious to everyone not named Trump. Iran's bitter enemy has between 75 to 200 nuclear weapons.

Iran didn't want to make herself a target. This simple concept flew right over Trump's head.

Several nations possess nuclear weapons, including Russia. Only one nation has ever used a nuclear weapon -- the United States.

Trump did not want to be confused with facts. So, he attacked Iran. Republicans in the Trump administration cheered the glorious leader. Trump is surrounded by admirers and the media is doing its part.

So, our country committed military aggression against a weakened foe, and the media is glorifying the event by giving its listeners every gritty detail!

 

[The Brad Dad]

How do you suppose they will ramp it up while facing full blown civil war at home?

They’re not facing any civil war at home. Your posts are simply fan fiction. In a few days you’ll have new talking points from Trump.

 

[Hello My Son]

Why does your opinion matter?

Lmao it doesn’t. That’s the point.

Sharing a secondhand opinion matters even less.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Sharing one’s firsthand opinion is relevant here. Sharing secondhand opinions is rather silly.

Not really, since it's done all of the time to display how others are publicly responding to current events.

It’d be like responding to everybody else’s post with, “Well, my great aunt Ginger thinks [X]” or quoting scripture in response to others. It’s nonsensical.

Or it could be a discussion starter. YMMV.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Sure they are. But so far Trump has not indicated that and is giving them a chance to stay but change course.

Agreements, deals, and offers from Trump are unreliable.


Google may have a few examples of Trump breaking his own deals etc. on the fly.
If you are interested, I can probably help you find at least one example of Trump going back on an agreement, deal, or offer.

 

[Hello My Son]

He's in tune with the Force.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

Sure, I'm sure they'll be impeaching Trump tomorrow.

If they don’t then they’re not fulfilling their oaths. And if you don’t pressure your representative then you’re not fulfilling your obligation as a citizen.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You’ve never met a Palestinian in your entire life.

Nor has anyone else in this dimension.

But I've met plenty of Arabs, some of them from Gaza. (via Jordan, Egypt, Yemen, etc)

You cannot change reality, no matter how hard you lie.

 

[Desert Storm]

All the US bases that are on high alert for Iran counter attacks

The US bases on high alert for possible retaliation after Trump’s Iran strikes

The US has several bases and military assets in the Middle East that Iran could target in retaliation for the strikes President Trump ordered earlier today.

nypost.com

• Al Udeid Air Base: The base is located in Qatar and is the largest US military base in the Middle East
• US Navy Fifth Fleet: The headquarters are in Bahrain and are a critical asset in the Persian Gulf
• Al Asad Air Base: A US base in Iraq that Iran targeted in 2020 after the killing of Quds Force leader Qasem Soleimani. The installation houses thousands of American troops and is the site of the largest US deployment in the country
• Harir Air Base: The base in Erbil, Iraq, has been on the receiving end of Iranian-proxy group drone attacks
• Al Tanf Garrison: A US military base in southern Syria, near the borders of Iraq and Jordan. An Iranian-backed militia attack on the Tower 22 outpost, just 12 miles south of Al Tanf, killed three US service members in January 2024
• Ali al-Salem Air Base: An air base in Kuwait and about 20 miles from the Iraqi border that houses members of the Air Force’s 386th Air Expeditionary Wing
• Al Dhafra Air Base: Located in the United Arab Emirates, the installation is home to the Air Force’s 380th Air Expeditionary Wing, which operates F-22 Raptor fighter jets and several kinds of surveillance planes and drones

 

[ElChupacabra]

We've talked about lying. I don't care what MSNBC tells you - lying will not change reality.

Iran's Houthi troops have directly attacked American troops for years. Obama and Biden ignored them.



They've been doing that for decades.

How do you suppose they will ramp it up while facing full blown civil war at home?

What you desire is not really feasible.



If I hated America, I'd be a democrat and we would be buds.

Trump didn't just defeat Iran, he defeated America's Hamas.

Trump hasn't defeated Iran. Their leadership is still in place as are its armed forces.

 

[Pyrite]

When will we have boots on the ground.

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Just as the USA didn't consider itself at war with Japan after Japanese pilots flying Japanese bombers dropped Japanese munitions on Pearl Harbor?

 

[Along Came Jones]

But it wasn't common knowledge.

True.

Not until the Gulf of Tonkin incident and the subsequent deployment of the Marines to Da Nang, only then did Americans start to notice a country called Vietnam. I and my adolescent peers were well aware of it since Okinawa was a major support and transit point throughout the war.

The first advisors were sent to assist the French in 1950.

 

[Hello My Son]

Not really, since it's done all of the time.

That’s not really a logical argument. Simply because it’s done “all the time” doesn’t make it not silly.

Or it could be a discussion starter. YMMV.

On page 104 of the thread? I think that time has passed…

 

[CLAX1911]

Post 1,047

FDR: Japan declared war on the USA with its surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. Germany subsequently declared war on the USA.

FDR didn't start either of these wars.

Officially sure but I don't think FDR's hands were clean

 

[Chomsky]

That's because you're a partisan hack and care more about defeating Trump than keeping America and it's inhabitants safe.



What comes next will be revolution in Iran.

What comes of that is always a concern. The Mullahs are done - what will replace them? A peaceful democracy? Sort of doubtful. It won't be radical Islam - but beyond that I have no real predictions to offer.



You are only miffed that Trump did this. You can't stand a win for Trump and would almost prefer nuclear war.

From the CNN street interview in Tehran this morning, the city seemed remarkedly peaceful, with many interviewed rallying around their country against Trump - referring to him by direct name.

Check it out (2 mins):

(CNN) 'There is no one dirtier than Trump': Iranians in Tehran react to US strikes

 

[Uncensored2008]

What I’m worried about is that Trump just pissed off Iranian terrorists and made the people in the US and US citizens and locations around the globe more at risk for attacks from them.

Right, because those who called us "The Great Satan" and Chanted "Death to America" was really close friends before this...

Concern that doesn’t seem to be completely unlikely due to risk warnings being raised globally for the same.

Iran is VASTLY less dangerous today than they were a month ago - mostly due to the actions of Israel. But Trump put an end to the dream of becoming a nuclear power for Iran.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Nor has anyone else in this dimension.
But I've met plenty of Arabs, some of them from Gaza. (via Jordan, Egypt, Yemen, etc)
You cannot change reality, no matter how hard you lie.

Do you also believe no one has ever met any Southerners?​

afaf

 

[ElChupacabra]

That’s not really a logical argument. Simply because it’s done “all the time” doesn’t make it not silly.

I amended my original comment.

On page 104 of the thread? I think that time has passed…

It's never too late, especially for the opinion of a Jedi master.

 

[Chomsky]

Sure, it's a war. Israel started this war Friday a week ago.

And, because Netanyahu needs the USA to join its war against Iran, the POTUS and CinC obligingly did what Netanyahu wanted.

While DOGE & Congress slash & cut services to the American People, Trump finds a way to spend money on unnecessary military exercises.

 

[Hello My Son]

I amended my original comment.


It's never too late, especially for the opinion of a Jedi master.

Tell that to Darth Vader…