Trump Launches War On Iran

[Pyrite]

No not in the 50s.
When Johnson became President in the 60s the quagmire became reality.

We started sending troops - er, "advisors" - to Vietnam earlier than the '60s.

 

[BirdinHand]

That's because you're a partisan hack and care more about defeating Trump than keeping America and it's inhabitants safe

What I’m worried about is that Trump just pissed off Iranian terrorists and made the people in the US and US citizens and locations around the globe more at risk for attacks from them.

Concern that doesn’t seem to be completely unlikely due to risk warnings being raised globally for the same.

 

[Chomsky]

I’ve been waiting for that to be pointed out. We can’t trust Iran when they say there are no plans for a nuclear weapon. We can totally trust them that there is no radiation.

The "no radiation" claim is also from the IAEA.

Here:

(News On Air) IAEA confirms no radiation spike after U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear sites

 

[L88]

The great faithful will begin telling us regime change was always the plan and this isn’t a war. That’s how they get around accusations that Trump started a new war - simply don’t call it a war. Mission accomplished.

Regime change executed by outside forces is not in the plan. Read the news.

 

[Phys251]

No not in the 50s.
When Johnson became President in the 60s the quagmire became reality.

That is precisely what I am getting at. Nobody saw that coming in the 1950s.

 

[Pyrite]

/s

Heck, given trump's aversion to transparency, vests wouldn't be needed.

Amazing how easy trump is making it for terrorists to attack Americans and America.

 

[CaughtInThe]

 

[L88]

Sure, it's a war. Israel started this war Friday a week ago.

And, because Netanyahu needs the USA to join its war against Iran, the POTUS and CinC obligingly did what Netanyahu wanted.

Nope, not yet. Hopefully not. But I know you need this to blow up into a disaster.

 

[ElChupacabra]

Why the hell would Luke Skywalker’s opinion matter enough to be shared?

We are on a site where anonymous internet randos share their opinions, and it seems to matter enough. At least most of us know who Luke Skywalker and the person who played him are.

 

[Chomsky]

Iran is in the region. No matter what you want to believe they are a nuclear power led by religion.

No. Iran is not a nuclear power.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Regime change executed by outside forces is not in the plan. Read the news.

Where can I read the plan?

Is the plan a stable?


Cruz and other folks are already making the regime change noises

 

[Along Came Jones]

You don't think that no one in the 1950s thought of Vietnam as a quagmire?

The French did.

Our Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, offered them two atomic bombs to use against the Viet Minh.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

It's not a war. He hasn't done anything that Biden hasn't done. Or Obama. Or Bush. Or Clinton.

Striking several nuclear facilities of a country of 90 million people that has not directly attacked the U.S. is a significant, offensive act of war requiring the approval of Congress. No President in U.S. history has done anything remotely similar. And you are lying when you suggest otherwise. This is not some random terrorist group. Iran has not directly attacked the U.S. There may be good reasons to attack Iran like this, but it is an illegal act without the approval of Congress.

 

[Phys251]

The French did.

Our Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, offered them two atomic bombs to use against the Viet Minh.

But it wasn't common knowledge.

 

[ASHES]

I can't imagine the collapse beating the expellation of the initial combustion gases, but Fair enough.

I was surprised to see such well-formed holes, to be honest.

The explosions themselves may have never reached the material storage, but exploding above could have caused a cave in on it, thereby not producing external signs of hitting the material by expelling it outside. That's what I mean.

 

[Cordelier]

The French did.

Our Secretary of State, John Foster Dulles, offered them two atomic bombs to use against the Viet Minh.

What do you figure? Was that a wise move or not?

 

[Pyrite]

Post #2,548

"Every American citizen or military personnel" in the region is now a target.

Good luck, everyone. Trump's joining Netanyahu's war against Iran has put targets on your backs.

 

[Chomsky]

Nonsense - everybody who opposed the Cold War Deep State policy on Russia gets called a criminal.
That's why Trump was almost killed a year ago -- twice, thru 2 attempts -- because he opposed the Cold War Deep State policy on Russia.

He's been in imprisoned for multiple attempted sexual assaults of minors, over a ten year period.

And yes, he spends time in Russia itself supporting Putin.

Check it out:

(Wiki) Scott Ritter

 

[L88]

Where can I read the plan?

Is the plan a stable?


Cruz and other folks are already making the regime change noises

Sure they are. But so far Trump has not indicated that and is giving them a chance to stay but change course.

 

[Hello My Son]

Relevance to why Luke’s opinion mattered enough for you to share?

 

[CaughtInThe]

Post #2,548

"Every American citizen or military personnel" in the region is now a target.

Good luck, everyone. Trump's joining Netanyahu's war against Iran has put targets on your backs.

Yeah

I called some friends today to find out where their military sons are.

 

[CaughtInThe]

Relevance to why Luke’s opinion mattered enough for you to share?

Why does your opinion matter?

 

[ElChupacabra]

Relevance to why Luke’s opinion mattered enough for you to share?

He's in tune with the Force.

 

[Sabre]

Trump has started a war against Iran in direct violation of the Constitution.

Trump should be impeached and removed from office immediately.

I ask you again to read the War Powers Act:

50 U.S. Code § 1541 - Purpose and policy

www.law.cornell.edu

(c)Presidential executive power as Commander-in-Chief; limitation

"The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

The War Powers Act gives the President the authority to defend the U.S. from an attack by an enemy without previous Congressional approval.

The War Powers Act does not give the President the authority to start and wage an offensive war without previous Congressional approval.

There is no declared war, that must be done by Congress.

Striking several nuclear facilities of a country of 90 million people that has not directly attacked the U.S. is a significant, offensive act of war requiring the approval of Congress. No President in U.S. history has done anything remotely similar. And you are lying when you suggest otherwise. This is not some random terrorist group. Iran has not directly attacked the U.S. There may be good reasons to attack Iran like this, but it is an illegal act without the approval of Congress.

Please read post 2,360

 

[Uncensored2008]

Iran was never a direct military threat to us,

We've talked about lying. I don't care what MSNBC tells you - lying will not change reality.

Iran's Houthi troops have directly attacked American troops for years. Obama and Biden ignored them.

that’s a straw man you’re introducing. Iran will attack bases and kill soldiers. They’ll attack civilians.

They've been doing that for decades.

How do you suppose they will ramp it up while facing full blown civil war at home?

What you desire is not really feasible.

Maybe a few more 9/11s. But you hate Americans and our military so I imagine all the blood shed will be like Christmas

If I hated America, I'd be a democrat and we would be buds.

Trump didn't just defeat Iran, he defeated America's Hamas.