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Trump Launches War On Iran

Fletch said:
Which was my point. All three of the conflicts he mentioned began under Biden and the current president would have to deal with them. Trump at least attempted to make peace between Russia and Ukraine. Biden wouldnt even speak to Putin. And there was no evidence that Harris would have been any different. Would Harris have Ok'ed an attack on Iran? I say no way
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Harris would have just been a placeholder like Biden was.
 
anatta said:
no question this was the right move at the right time -to finish off the nuclear sites ( and bonus for killing leadership and scientists)
and causing Iran to go thru it's stockpiles of missiles.

It had to be done. It had to be done NOW. Iranian ballistic missiles were getting thru targeting Israeli major cities.
It would have been foolish to wait longer for the USA's strikes. It;s done, and Iran is severly degraded in all aspects
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Here you are, claiming that the USA "had" to bomb Iran's Fordo(w) nuclear site in order to save Israeli cities from being targeted (in retaliation) by Iran's ballistic missiles.

That the Israeli Government should not have initiated its war against Iran unless and until it could defend itself against Iran's ballistic missiles - or sustain the losses - doesn't seem to factor into your argument.
 
ElChupacabra said:
The data doesn't lie. One can certainly argue that Iran was not being fully transparent, but all transparency was gone once the JCPOA was ended as was compliance with the enrichment levels. So essentially Trump bombed Iran for doing what they no longer had to comply with because they were not under the agreement the US ended.

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Our partners in the Middle East are better? The "Iran is a threat to all of western society" schtick is a better angle, considering the Saudis Trump danced with aren't a that much more progressive.
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Do Saudis chant death to America like Iran?
 
gbg3 said:
Checking in on MSDNC for a bit tonight. It sounds like they are now almost banking on the idea of the U.S. entering a new endless war. Dems are really going to struggle with a narrative, coming out of tonight. Where will they head next, if their initial narratives don't become reality or the public doesn't buy the initial narratives they so hope will make Trump look bad.

The other narrative is none of this makes any sense - because Iran was not anywhere near nuclear capabilities and no one was in danger from Iran.

And finally, this was clearly an "unconstitutional" action from Trump. Also, they are pretty confident this will ignite big division within the Republican party - because of the differing views going into this plan.

So, they're off and running with their narratives.
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SSDD
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ASHES said:
They're all wrong literally, and a source of great misery for humanity the past few thousand years. I guess it could have been worse if something like the Aztec religion and it's derivatives took over the world, but it seems like not much.
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Oh man.

Civilization IV's most warmongering leader is the Aztec's Montezuma. By a mile. Blink and he'll declare war.
 
Trump said:
Do Saudis chant death to America like Iran?
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Irrelevant even if true. We are much more of a threat to Iran than Iran is a threat to us.
 
ElChupacabra said:
I guess that depends on what Netanyahu wants.
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It's mostly his war. hopefully we just tag along for some Israeli clean up work - that's as far as I want to get -although our bases could possibly get attacked. I think Iran will quickly run out of firepower. The long war depends on what shape the regime winds up in. I wouldn't bet on long term hostilities
 
Along Came Jones said:
I'm aware. Saudi Arabia is the world's second largest oil producer, followed by Russia and Canada. The Saudi's penchant for increasing supply puts them at odds with the remaining 11 members. It also means they exert considerable influence on decisions made by the cartel.
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Yes and we are not trusted by Canada, Mexico, Venezuela or Russia
 
Gotta love how stupid MAGA looks for buying all his lies.

They’re gonna pretend they knew this one was a lie all along, because they can’t let the mammoth floodgate of guilt they’ve built open up even a trickle lest they drown in the ensuing flood.
 
Pyrite said:
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???? What does your Post #84 mean?

"Violent" in what manner? Specify how each country - Russia, China, Israel, Pakistan, North Korea - has "gotten violent" with its nukes.
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Didn’t say they had.
 
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