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Trump Launches War On Iran

reinaert said:
This assumes free elections. It also assumes the absence of Democratic devotion to squandering every win.
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Sigh…yes and yes. My hope is the kind of dems we get will be more from the AOC JB school of fighting.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Ukraine Russian peace deal.

Fail.

Gaza ceasefire, peace deal.

Fail.

Iran peace deal.

Fail and dragging US into a full blown conflict.

Americans elected a moron.

And for their lack of wisdom, they will get the results they so desperately crave.
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This is very sad.... First, if Trump had not ripped up the peace deal eight years ago, this would not have happened. This will likely be Iraq on steroids... thousands of young American lives lost because we elected a POTUS that does not have a clue how to do the job, and surrounds himself with 'yes man' that also can not do the job. Incompetence begets ugly results.


As to Americans electing a moron, well, its called representative government...

NoMoreDems-Reps said:
Wa Wa wa.....

Letting Iran get a nuke was always against US best interest. These strategic Strikes are to ensure they don't.
Hopefully this will make it easier for Iran to surrender sooner.
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No, they will not ensure anything but the fermentation of hate. This sets Iran back, but ensures their dedication to getting nukes either organically or inorganically.... Iran will retaliate, likely with the effect felt at the pumps AND in terrorist attacks on US soil. No real objective was achieved by this other than Trump gets to own the news cycle yet again.
 
NoMoreDems-Reps said:
Wa Wa wa.....

Letting Iran get a nuke was always against US best interest. These strategic Strikes are to ensure they don't.
Hopefully this will make it easier for Iran to surrender sooner.
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Surrender to who? We’re not at war. Trump committed an illegal action in support of Israel’s illegal actions,
 
Trump is so desperate for the Noble Peace Prize that he's willing to bomb the hell out of some country to achieve it.
 
CaughtInThe said:
And a gazillion new Islamic terrorists were created today.

From MANY different countries. Including some already in the US.



Buckle up middle America/Red states. They're probably gonna come for you this time. Be safe.
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Yes don’t stop people getting nuclear weapons or they might get violent
 
Phys251 said:
I should have known.

A politically smart president would have armed Israel without sending our own military to Iran.

tRump proves again what an idiot he is. And how easily he is played.

He is now a war president. Exactly as the MAGA world said he wasn't.
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Israel would need boots on the ground to destroy Fordo
 
iliveonramen said:
It is funny, because most of Trump's base are Boomers and lifelong Republicans that supported Bush.
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YUP. But all of them the last 10 years are like “That darn Dubya and his darn Iraq war!” And over the next few however long we are going to have to hear all about the phony intel that a nuke was imminent, and blah blah.
 
Phys251 said:
I should have known.

A politically smart president would have armed Israel without sending our own military to Iran.

tRump proves again what an idiot he is. And how easily he is played.

He is now a war president. Exactly as the MAGA world said he wasn't.
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It isn't possible to arm Israel with munitions that have the best chances of taking out extremely-hardened facilities such as Fordro(w).

The B-2 stealth bomber is the only delivery device. (And we've also so far refused to provide Israel with the 30,000-lb anti-bunker bombs.)
 
Trump to address the nation @2200hrs tonight, can’t wait for the embarrassment…….
 
stealthycat said:
you're right


I voted Trump and GOP. This should have all come from Congress like GW did things.

Obama embraced the US drone programme, overseeing more strikes in his first year than Bush carried out during his entire presidency. A total of 563 strikes, largely by drones, targeted Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen during Obama’s two terms, compared to 57 strikes under Bush. Between 384 and 807 civilians were killed in those countries, according to reports logged by the Bureau.

Key examples of countries where the US military has taken action under the Biden administration include:
  • Syria: The US has conducted airstrikes targeting Iran-backed militias in Syria in response to attacks on US forces.
  • Iraq: The US has carried out airstrikes against Iran-backed militant groups in Iraq, also in response to attacks on US personnel and facilities.
  • Yemen: The US has launched strikes against Houthi forces in Yemen and the Red Sea in response to their attacks on commercial shipping and US and British naval vessels.
  • Somalia: The US military presence in Somalia has increased, with operations focused on counterterrorism missions



So we see where Presidents do that. Obama owned it (Democrats and liberals did) and Biden owns it (Democrats and liberals) and so yes Trump owns this and the people who voted for him.

I would rather have had Israel do it, Iran a non-nuclear nation is a good thing.


but I hate war, I hate the deaths and bombing and potential for global escalations etc
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Israel couldn't "do" it. Only the USA has the 30,000-lb anti-bunker munition that has the best chance of damaging/destroying the very-hardened facility at Fordro(w).

And the USA has the only means of delivering this bomb: the B-2 stealth bomber.
 
Logophile said:
As if Democrats didn't have their share of lies?? Biden will go down in history as a the puppet baby bomber so getting partisan right now is outrageously stupid. We have had two indescribably corrupt administrations in succession running the nation, both left and right. So the question is what to do to prevent this in the future, which to my mind, means crippling the two party system in favor of a multi-party system
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I don't remember Biden dragging us into a proper war with Iran after claiming to be the peace candidate.
 
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