Trump Launches War On Iran

[Absentglare]

'Whim'?
I hardly think so.
Trump, and a great many others, have had the position that Iran must not have a nuclear weapon for at least 10 years.

I think this post is one you really need to read and ask yourself:

Netanyahu has been claiming Iran is about to have a nuclear bomb for 33 years.

It’s true that they have very highly refined uranium. But it does not appear that they were just now putting together nuclear bombs.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Yeah, I figured this would be their response.

 

[Napoleon]

Netanyahu has been claiming Iran is about to have a nuclear bomb for 33 years.

It’s true that they have very highly refined uranium. But it does not appear that they were just now putting together nuclear bombs.

It might not appear that way to someone who doesn’t know anything about the science or what Iran has been up to with North Korea.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Trump could absolutely have been lying, or it could have been a deliberate mildec. My guess as to this particular is the latter, but, who knows. Regardless, the stated intent was to forestall - not destroy - a nuclear bomb.

Trump and lies are like butter and cheese.

Donald Trump has told more lies than every other president combines...and then some.

Starting with "I have big hands" to "I am a stable genius."

He awards himself trophies for tournaments he was not even in. So anything he says is most probably total bullshit, and if by some rare chance it is not, then it's gross exaggeration.

Believe him at your own risk.

 

[Tigerace117]

Maybe so, but I am certain the Qataris will not like lobbing missiles into their territory.

They knew the risks when they decided to allow American military troops to be stationed on their territory.

 

[sanman]

The Q conspiracy nuts were all on the right. None of the Democrats were part of that movement.

It's a Fake News scam aimed at bashing those who oppose Left-run dictatorship.

There is no deep state. That is a lie created by the scum at Faux.

You Lefties worship govt like your deity, and will never see any fault in it.

This is not part of the discussion.

Certainly it's part of the discussion to point out how Biden doled out the weapons to your precious Israel, while you want to single out Trump for bad behavior

Probably. Israel has no issue attacking the people who elected Hamas.

Your precious Israel is massacring women and children, while you exonerate them for it.
By your standard, then attacks on Israeli civilians would be justifiable over them having elected Netanyahu.

I do not care for the bloodshed. I wish it would all stop.

You want it to stop by killing all the Amalek untermenschen

 

[Chomsky]

Yep. If Trump doesn't retaliate, this could fizzle out. If Trump retaliates, I imagine Iran turns it up.

Iran seems to be playing the long game.

But yeah, Trump's in a real bind now.

He was an idiot to get involved in this. Truly. Did he really think he could unilaterally & unprovoked bomb another sovereign nation, put his hands up - declaring "It's over - We'll have 'Peace'!"? And have no repercussions?

 

[Fearandloathing]

Once you hit someone and they don't take a dive, your options are limited.

All because little Donnie did not get the kind of attention he wanted at his birthday parade!

 

[Tigerace117]

They’ve been pounding Haifa and Tel Aviv. Panic in the streets because Israel can’t intercept their new missiles and the IDF sirens aren’t working.

Gee, all those claims about Iran being “defeated” sure sound awfully silly now.

 

[Fearandloathing]

Iran seems to be playing the long game.

But yeah, Trump's in a real bind now.

He was an idiot to get involved in this. Truly. Did he really think he could unilaterally & unprovoked bomb another sovereign nation, put his hands up - declaring "It's over - We'll have 'Peace'!"? And have no repercussions?

Yes, it appears that is exactly what the idiot thought.

 

[phoenix2020]

The reports are 10 missiles at CENTCOM, 1 at Iraq. None of them impacted.

Does this end the exchange or will the US retaliate?

Trump has called an emergency meeting.

Huh. If that's it, it might be an overture of restraint.

 

[BirdinHand]

The only thing anyone hast to worry about from Qatar is getting biffed with a Hermes bag by some desperate housewife.

Eh, I’d take an Hermes.

 

[Tigerace117]

No one can let a country who finances terror have nukes. Yep, it's not happening.

The US finances terror, yet we are allowed to have nukes. Clearly your statement isn’t true.

 

[Napoleon]

Iran seems to be playing the long game.

But yeah, Trump's in a real bind now.

He was an idiot to get involved in this. Truly. Did he really think he could unilaterally & unprovoked bomb another sovereign nation, put his hands up - declaring "It's over - We'll have 'Peace'!"? And have no repercussions?

Iran would have been wise to let it go because that is as reasonable as Trump is going to be. He’ll take the gloves off from here on out.

 

[Chomsky]

Yeah, I figured this would be their response.

I actually thought Iran would use a proxy(s).

They've got stugots!

 

[ColdHardTruth]

It's a Fake News scam aimed at bashing those who oppose Left-run dictatorship.

It is fake news. The sad part is that it was created by a right-wing loon who believed what he read.

You Lefties worship govt like your deity, and will never see any fault in it.

Not true.

Certainly it's part of the discussion to point out how Biden doled out the weapons to your precious Israel, while you want to single out Trump for bad behavior

No, it's not. We are not discussing Biden.

Your precious Israel is massacring women and children, while you exonerate them for it.

Did you forget that your side supports Isreal?

By your standard, then attacks on Israeli civilians would be justifiable over them having elected Netanyahu.

They would not.

You want it to stop by killing all the Amalek untermenschen

That isn't what I said.

I dislike bloodshed on both sides.

The fight needs to end.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

I actually thought Iran would use a proxy(s).

They've got stugots!

Mindblowing isn't it.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Iranian state radio said that the IRGC has fired a salvo of missiles at a US military base in Qatar.

No word yet from the Pentagon. I hope they have a Patriot system protecting their air space (and Navy assets also monitoring the skies).

Explosions heard in Qatar after Iran says it launched missiles at U.S. bases

Iranian state media announced an operation launching missile attacks against U.S. bases in Iraq and Qatar, following the U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear sites over the weekend.

www.cbsnews.com

It seems the Iranians refuse to be bullied by Trump.

 

[Ikari]

Iran seems to be playing the long game.

But yeah, Trump's in a real bind now.

He was an idiot to get involved in this. Truly. Did he really think he could unilaterally & unprovoked bomb another sovereign nation, put his hands up - declaring "It's over - We'll have 'Peace'!"? And have no repercussions?

I'm not sure what's "long game" about going after Qatar. They may not have hit anything, but Trump was already chomping at the bit to escalate this thing even further and this gives him ammo for it.

 

[Chomsky]

Iran would have been wise to let it go because that is as reasonable as Trump is going to be. He’ll take the gloves off from here on out.

That would be a major mistake.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

I'm not sure what's "long game" about going after Qatar. They may not have hit anything, but Trump was already chomping at the bit to escalate this thing even further and this gives him ammo for it.

I think trying to suck the US in is the long game

 

[Napoleon]

That would be a major mistake.

For Iran, yes.

 

[trixare4kids]

The US finances terror, yet we are allowed to have nukes.

Believe what you want.

Clearly your statement isn’t true.

 

[eohrnberger]

Netanyahu has been claiming Iran is about to have a nuclear bomb for 33 years.

It’s true that they have very highly refined uranium.

There is one, and only one, use for such highly enriched uranium.

But it does not appear that they were just now putting together nuclear bombs.

They, the Nuclear nations, missed keeping the cat in the bag with North Korea.
Seems like you are supporting the idea that they do the same with Iran, i.e. not acting until its far too late.

 

[HumblePi]

Israel never signed on to the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons treaty, as 191 other 'states' had. Israel wanted to remain obscure in their nuclear weapons program in an attempt to deter threats from countries like Iran and others in the area. It's widely believed that Israel has nuclear weapons.

According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute and the Federation of American Scientists, Israel has an arsenal of around 90 nuclear warheads. Iran knows this too, of course. Trump's bombing of Iran's nuclear sites may actually propel Iran to develop their uranium enrichment program even faster now. Iran's officials were in Geneva working through discussions and negotiations about drawing back on their nuclear enrichment. The United States did not have a physical representative at the Geneva caucus. The US was kept informed and engaged through diplomatic channels, with Secretary Rubio and Steve Witkoff involved in discussions with European counterparts. Could anyone explain how it is showing 'good faith' by the U.S. not physically being represented for these discussions?

Updated: Jun 20, 2025 4:03 PM ET

European Leaders Seek Diplomacy in Talks With Iran as Trump Weighs Strike​

https://time.com/7296249/iran-israel-europe-talks/
U.K. Foreign Secretary David Lammy said ahead of the meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, that a “window now exists” to end the crisis.

After the talks concluded with no apparent breakthrough, Lammy said European ministers were “keen to continue ongoing discussions and negotiations with Iran,” and urged the country to continue talks with the U.S.


U.K. Foreign Secretary David Lammy said ahead of the meeting in Geneva, Switzerland, that a “window now exists” to end the crisis.

After the talks concluded with no apparent breakthrough, Lammy said European ministers were “keen to continue ongoing discussions and negotiations with Iran,” and urged the country to continue talks with the U.S.