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Trump Launches War On Iran

Questerr said:
You claimed the US didn’t want the Shah to oppress his people, yet readily admitted the US trained his secret police that he used to torture and murder citizens.

You lied. Just own it.
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I mean, if we weren't on board with his oppression, we probably wouldn't have propped him up in the first place. The Ayatollahs weren't really in the coup picture, some supported it but it wasn't some coherent push by them to reinstate the Shaw. That was done by the US and UK so we could keep the oil flowing.
 
Napoleon said:
We’ll see if this works. The Iron Dome has failed to defend against Iran’s new generation of hypersonic missiles.
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Iron dome is a 3rd of it. It's a 3 layer system. Arrow and THAAD are other parts.

One of the big problems is interceptor missiles are very expensive and get shot typically 2 or 3 times per incoming object. An adversary can run you out of them relatively easily with cheaper weapons that are easier to produce. And overwhelm you with volume.
 
sanman said:
Are you referring to the Q Anon crap?
I remember how the Fake News media all began trotting out their Q Anon narrative together simultaneously.
That definitely reeked of a Deep State orchestrated campaign.
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The Q conspiracy nuts were all on the right. None of the Democrats were part of that movement.

There is no deep state. That is a lie created by the scum at Faux.

sanman said:
We can see how easily Biden doled out the weapons to Israel, to let it keep blowing up women and children.
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This is not part of the discussion.
sanman said:
"It's their own fault, not ours" - as if there's no free agency or choice in doing such things. Israel and its enablers will endlessly self-exonerate.
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Probably. Israel has no issue attacking the people who elected Hamas.

I do not care for the bloodshed. I wish it would all stop.
 
Toggle Almendro said:
That is incorrect. I post the truth. Which is why no one can point out anything untrue in my posts.
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No, it is correct.

Your posts will never be truthful while you're getting information from Faux.

Accept this and move on.
 
Ikari said:
They are likely not going to be in that treaty much longer, thanks to Trump. And yes, they did violate the NPT which led to sanction and then to JCPOA. And while America was part of the JCPOA, Iran was in compliance with it. It wasn't until Trump pulled out, that we saw this spike in enrichment.
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If the Iranians were inclined to comply with both the NPT and JCPOA, why would there be this 'spike in enrichment'?
Why would it matter if the US were in the JCPOA deal, or not, if the JCPOA was still in force with the other EU Nation signatories?

Didn't the Iranians violate the terms of the JCPOA with the other EU Nation signatories?

Ikari said:
It does have to do with Trump because we had additional agreements with Iran to pull them back onto the global stage, reduce sanctions against them, open up inspections and control their enrichment procedures which was working until...Trump pulled us out. Because black man bad and anything Obama did had to be undone.
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Your hanging this on Trump is just yet another exhibit of your TDS and blaming him for the mess, i.e. the JCPOA which the Iranians were highly likely violating all along.

From your posts, all can see that you've made up your mind and that any countervailing facts posted in response are just being simply rejected out of hand by you.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Doo bee doo bee doooooo

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Get ready for the next 20 years of mindless patrolling in circles until someone blows up your Striker and sends you to Valhalla.
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I thought Trump would TACO on the bunker bomb attack, but I was wrong.

However if I'm wrong again, and he doesn't TACO on Regime Change, he's going to throw away his Presidency.
 
eohrnberger said:
If the Iranians were inclined to comply with both the NPT and JCPOA, why would there be this 'spike in enrichment'?
Why would it matter if the US were in the JCPOA deal, or not, if the JCPOA was still in force with the other EU Nation signatories?

Didn't the Iranians violate the terms of the JCPOA with the other EU Nation signatories?


Your hanging this on Trump is just yet another exhibit of your TDS and blaming him for the mess, i.e. the JCPOA which the Iranians were highly likely violating all along.

From your posts, all can see that you've made up your mind and that any countervailing facts posted in response are just being simply rejected out of hand by you.
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Because Trump abrogated the agreement. Why is this difficult?
 
Iran is also currently firing missiles into northern Israel, so it appears they are multitasking.
 
trixare4kids said:
I don't care what you remember. You are repeating unfounded rumor and innuendo, and hoping it sticks. I've read similar talking points on X.

Not that it's scientific, but there was a poll from the forum where almost everyone agreed that a strike did not mean anyone was for further escalation leading to an all-out war.

https://debatepolitics.com/threads/war-with-iran-yes-or-no.571642/page-4#post-1081667280
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Perhaps on DP, MAGA is more reasonable? I dunno.

But like I said, go take a look at the public comment areas of MAGA sites - even Fox News. Take a look now, if you don't believe me? MAGA Pacifism is gone. I'm sure we'll see this reflected in upcoming polling.
 
Allan said:
Iran is also currently firing missiles into northern Israel, so it appears they are multitasking.
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They’ve been pounding Haifa and Tel Aviv. Panic in the streets because Israel can’t intercept their new missiles and the IDF sirens aren’t working.
 
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