Trump is going to cheat. An article worth reading.

[3leftsdoo]

Sounds like you speak from experience.

Sounds like you do?

 

[iguanaman]

Irony... I have posters here thinking I am a Republican and others thinking I am liberal... in the same thread.

You guys need to huddle up and figure this out.

It has nothing to do with party and there is no Republican party left anyway. What matters is if you are entranced by a demagogue or not.

 

[Diesel]

Irony... I have posters here thinking I am a Republican and others thinking I am liberal... in the same thread.

You guys need to huddle up and figure this out.

That means you're doing it right.

 

[TurtleDude]

Speaking of facts. Did you read the article?

No, I was merely responding to colbert's blatant bovine excrement

 

[Diesel]

"Colbert is a biased liberal".

The facts.

He is. He's also right.

 

[3leftsdoo]

Being entranced by a demagogue is a sickness. You need help.

Indeed; obsession & addiction are not healthy, whether the object of that obsession/addiction is loved, hated, or both. We all do.

 

[Craig234]

That ad hominem, pretty much a de facto concession on your part.

I guess, then, you'd also think it's ad hominem for me to say you don't understand what ad hominem is. But saying that your criticism of the article shows IMO you did not understand it, is not an ad hominem comment.

 

[Diesel]

Sounds like you do?

With some things more than others. I usually take note of drug and hooker analogies.

 

[3leftsdoo]

With some things more than others. I usually take note of drug and hooker analogies.

Okay... Addiction is addiction; a tragic mess.

 

[Diesel]

Okay... Addiction is addiction; a tragic mess.

Indeed it is. That's why I asked you the question. It's insensitive at best and wantonly hurtful at worst to compare people who have different political ideas than you have to drug and alcohol addicts. It's trashy too.

 

[apdst]

Irony... I have posters here thinking I am a Republican and others thinking I am liberal... in the same thread.

You guys need to huddle up and figure this out.

You're definitely more Leftward. You think a cetralized banking system is a good idea. Y9u can't support simething straight out of The Communist Manifesto and then deny being a Leftist.

 

[TurtleDude]

He is. He's also right.

no he isn't. many facts hurt liberal positions. The left wing position on guns is factually deficient. The right's position on some social issues is idiotic. Neither side has any advantage when it comes to facts in terms of the overall reality

 

[3leftsdoo]

Indeed it is. That's why I asked you the question. It's insensitive at best and wantonly hurtful at worst to compare people who have different political ideas than you have to drug and alcohol addicts. It's trashy too.

Indeed. Is it? In other words, it's accurate in this case - addiction is addiction. :shrug: IOW, accurate. :thumbs:

 

[Diesel]

no he isn't. many facts hurt liberal positions. The left wing position on guns is factually deficient. The right's position on some social issues is idiotic. Neither side has any advantage when it comes to facts in terms of the overall reality

The left doesn't have a singular position on guns. Gun positions among people left of center run the range from reasonable to unconstitutional. I would argue, like Colbert, that the consensus among "liberals" on many of the most pressing issues of this time tend to be influenced more by supportive facts than "conservative" positions. And for many Trump supporters, sadly, reality is optional.

 

[JMR]

"a president who has no moral or legal compass?"





That's not biased at all! Is it?!

If you are aware of Trump's moral or legal compass, please share.

 

[Diesel]

Indeed. Is it? In other words, it's accurate in this case - addiction is addiction. :shrug: IOW, accurate. :thumbs:

You specifically compared people who criticize Trump to opioid addicts. The lack of self awareness and emotional maturity that requires is astounding.

 

[JMR]

In your own words, why is a biased, liberally slanted opinion piece authored by a former Obama speechwriter worth reading? :coffeepap

Perhaps because people who think differently are capable of great insight? Try it. The echo chamber must get a little boring.

 

[TurtleDude]

The left doesn't have a singular position on guns. Gun positions among people left of center run the range from reasonable to unconstitutional. I would argue, like Colbert, that the consensus among "liberals" on many of the most pressing issues of this time tend to be influenced more by supportive facts than "conservative" positions. And for many Trump supporters, sadly, reality is optional.

well you are talking about numerous leftwing positions compared to how many "conservative" positions. I think where conservatives ignore facts is on things like prayer in school, abortion, gay rights, and flag burning. On economic issues, the left has plenty of faith based nonsense itself.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The left doesn't have a singular position on guns. Gun positions among people left of center run the range from reasonable to unconstitutional. I would argue, like Colbert, that the consensus among "liberals" on many of the most pressing issues of this time tend to be influenced more by supportive facts than "conservative" positions. And for many Trump supporters, sadly, reality is optional.

Ya they do...the citizens shall have no power to refute the rulings of the state, there-for the guns have to go, the sooner the better.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Perhaps because people who think differently are capable of great insight? Try it. The echo chamber must get a little boring.

During my lifetime the left has been much more insular and intolerant than the Right....more ignorant as well.....more stupid and less good human beings...that has defined the Left.

We have to do better.

 

[JMR]

During my lifetime the left has been much more insular and intolerant than the Right....more ignorant as well.....more stupid and less good human beings...that has defined the Left.

We have to do better.

I appreciate your opinion of your own interpretation of your own experience. I think I disagree however.

 

[TurtleDude]

I appreciate your opinion of your own interpretation of your own experience. I think I disagree however.

conservatives are not stifling opposing speech on college environments

 

[Diesel]

well you are talking about numerous leftwing positions compared to how many "conservative" positions. I think where conservatives ignore facts is on things like prayer in school, abortion, gay rights, and flag burning. On economic issues, the left has plenty of faith based nonsense itself.

Frankly, I think all Americans are **** when it comes to economics, but we sure like to think that the two major parties are polar opposites on everything. We usually ignore the fact that Republicans and Democrats together occupy a small fraction of the political spectrum. And the climate thing is just mind-shatteringly stupid. It will be the defining feature of the generation entering adulthood and there are still people -- American citizens with formal education in the year 2020 -- who think the climate isn't changing or that it's no big deal even if it is changing. Not all "conservatives" agree with that position, but we can all safely assume that almost all Trump supporters are always going to support every letter of every Trump position, even as those positions change from minute to minute.

 

[Diesel]

Ya they do...the citizens shall have no power to refute the rulings of the state, there-for the guns have to go, the sooner the better.

Are you ever on this website with a clear head?

 

[JMR]

conservatives are not stifling opposing speech on college environments

Really? Has Bernie been invited to Liberty University?

You jump on instances of provocateurs being uninvited due to security concerns.