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Trump exempts phones, computers, chips from new tariffs

CLAX1911 said:
Apple doesn't use anything special they get flea market trash from China. And then turn around and charge $1,000 for phones. All this means for Apple is the CEO isn't going to be able to afford his gold-plated toilet brush this year.
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Apple hardly uses "flea market trash." That's why Consumer Reports rates them so highly and they have the loyalest customer base.
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Why is Apple manufacturing in China? China has an extensive supply chain. You need a thousand rubber gaskets? That’s the factory next door. You need a million screws? That factory is a block away. You need that screw made a little bit differently? It will take three hours.

The point is that manufacturing plants don’t exist in isolation; they benefit a lot from being part of a manufacturing cluster, with specialized suppliers and a large pool of workers with the right skills close at hand.

If Apple wants to evade the tariffs on China, they can ship everything assembles, except for one screw, to Vietnam where that last screw is inserted and ship the finished product to the U.S. tariff free.
 
MTAtech said:
Apple hardly uses "flea market trash." That's why Consumer Reports rates them so highly and they have the loyalest customer base.
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Why is Apple manufacturing in China? China has an extensive supply chain. You need a thousand rubber gaskets? That’s the factory next door. You need a million screws? That factory is a block away. You need that screw made a little bit differently? It will take three hours.

The point is that manufacturing plants don’t exist in isolation; they benefit a lot from being part of a manufacturing cluster, with specialized suppliers and a large pool of workers with the right skills close at hand.

If Apple wants to evade the tariffs on China, they can ship everything assembles, except for one screw, to Vietnam where that last screw is inserted and ship the finished product to the U.S. tariff free.
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100%

It never ceases to amaze me how little the average Trump supporter knows about the world, yet they think the whole world owes them a favor.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Do you really think this is part of the “art of the deal”?
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Hello My Son said:
I really think that there’s no way Trump granted any exemptions without getting something out of it, correct. He’s a narcissist who isn’t just going to randomly capitulate/forfeit without having something he can declare victory about.

After all, he’d stubbornly do whatever he feels like doing well beyond the point that the world burns down around him, wouldn’t you agree?
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Jetboogieman said:
lol.

Okay,
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As I was saying....

NVIDIA to Manufacture American-Made AI Supercomputers in US for First Time NVIDIA Blackwell chip production starts in Arizona — NVIDIA opens first US factories

NVIDIA is working with its manufacturing partners to design and build factories that, for the first time, will produce NVIDIA AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-manufacture-american-made-ai-supercomputers-us/
Together with leading manufacturing partners, the company has commissioned more than a million square feet of manufacturing space to build and test NVIDIA Blackwell chips in Arizona and AI supercomputers in Texas.

Nvidia to Make AI Supercomputers in Texas and Plans Up to $500 Billion in U.S. AI Production
 
Hello My Son said:
As I was saying....

NVIDIA to Manufacture American-Made AI Supercomputers in US for First Time NVIDIA Blackwell chip production starts in Arizona — NVIDIA opens first US factories

NVIDIA is working with its manufacturing partners to design and build factories that, for the first time, will produce NVIDIA AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-manufacture-american-made-ai-supercomputers-us/
Together with leading manufacturing partners, the company has commissioned more than a million square feet of manufacturing space to build and test NVIDIA Blackwell chips in Arizona and AI supercomputers in Texas.

Nvidia to Make AI Supercomputers in Texas and Plans Up to $500 Billion in U.S. AI Production
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Lovely if it happens.

Announcements are free.
 
W_Heisenberg said:
100%

It never ceases to amaze me how little the average Trump supporter knows about the world, yet they think the whole world owes them a favor.
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...and the largest economy in the world is being taken advantage of by tiny Asian nations.
 
MTAtech said:
Like when China promised to buy $200 billion in order for Trump to end the 2018 tariffs and they didn't.
China bought none of the extra $200 billion of US exports in Trump's trade deal
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2018:

abcnews.go.com

'We want to help America,' Apple CEO Tim Cook says of moving foreign money back to US

The company said it plans to create 20,000 new jobs as well.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

2021:

abcnews.go.com

Apple announces $430 billion investment in US with 20,000 new jobs

Apple announced Monday that it plans to invest more than $430 billion in the United States and add 20,000 new jobs nationwide over the next five years.
abcnews.go.com abcnews.go.com

2025:

www.forbes.com

Apple To Hire 20,000 Workers As Part Of $500 Billion U.S. Investment

Apple is gearing up for a series of U.S. investments totaling $500 Billion, which will include the creation of approximately 20,000 research and development jobs.
www.forbes.com www.forbes.com
 
 
phoenix2020 said:
I don’t believe it would be worthwhile to try. MAGA functionally are more like a photocopier than a sentient being. That is, they’re a relatively simple automaton that takes talking points from Donald and the media, then copies them many different times, day in and day out until new points are issued. They stay focused because they have been taught that any entity that is not Donald Trump is an agent of Satan, evil incarnate and anything they say is a lie.

So, you could try to explain things to @Taylor for hours on end, but all he will see and read is <words from Satan’s agent, ignore them>. So it becomes something of a waste of time for everybody involved.
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Do you get bored saying the same insults everyday?
 
MTAtech said:
Apple hardly uses "flea market trash." That's why Consumer Reports rates them so highly and they have the loyalest customer base.
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Why is Apple manufacturing in China? China has an extensive supply chain. You need a thousand rubber gaskets? That’s the factory next door. You need a million screws? That factory is a block away. You need that screw made a little bit differently? It will take three hours.

The point is that manufacturing plants don’t exist in isolation; they benefit a lot from being part of a manufacturing cluster, with specialized suppliers and a large pool of workers with the right skills close at hand.

If Apple wants to evade the tariffs on China, they can ship everything assembles, except for one screw, to Vietnam where that last screw is inserted and ship the finished product to the U.S. tariff free.
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If they weren't using flea market trash the Chinese tariffs wouldn't hurt them. Your purchasing stuff that China knocked off from other places so flea market trash.

I don't care how indoctrinated you are if it's a Chinese manufactured product it's flea market trash.
 
Hello My Son said:
Haha, fair point, but they've already started.
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I think some of what we're seeing is due to Biden's CHIPS Act and to stay in tRump's good graces, companies will make sure he gets and takes credit for what was probably already planned.
 
CLAX1911 said:
If they weren't using flea market trash the Chinese tariffs wouldn't hurt them. Your purchasing stuff that China knocked off from other places so flea market trash.

I don't care how indoctrinated you are if it's a Chinese manufactured product it's flea market trash.
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You don't care lol
 
Hello My Son said:
As I was saying....

NVIDIA to Manufacture American-Made AI Supercomputers in US for First Time NVIDIA Blackwell chip production starts in Arizona — NVIDIA opens first US factories

NVIDIA is working with its manufacturing partners to design and build factories that, for the first time, will produce NVIDIA AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-manufacture-american-made-ai-supercomputers-us/
Together with leading manufacturing partners, the company has commissioned more than a million square feet of manufacturing space to build and test NVIDIA Blackwell chips in Arizona and AI supercomputers in Texas.

Nvidia to Make AI Supercomputers in Texas and Plans Up to $500 Billion in U.S. AI Production
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You think these plans were made overnight in an agreement with Trump? Really? Why do you think this? The article mentioned nothing about Trump.
 
CLAX1911 said:
If they weren't using flea market trash the Chinese tariffs wouldn't hurt them. Your purchasing stuff that China knocked off from other places so flea market trash.

I don't care how indoctrinated you are if it's a Chinese manufactured product it's flea market trash.
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:)
 
Hello My Son said:
As I was saying....

NVIDIA to Manufacture American-Made AI Supercomputers in US for First Time NVIDIA Blackwell chip production starts in Arizona — NVIDIA opens first US factories

NVIDIA is working with its manufacturing partners to design and build factories that, for the first time, will produce NVIDIA AI supercomputers entirely in the U.S.
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-manufacture-american-made-ai-supercomputers-us/
Together with leading manufacturing partners, the company has commissioned more than a million square feet of manufacturing space to build and test NVIDIA Blackwell chips in Arizona and AI supercomputers in Texas.

Nvidia to Make AI Supercomputers in Texas and Plans Up to $500 Billion in U.S. AI Production
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You do realize we can thank the Chips Act for that, correct? For those not up on such things, the Chips Act was a bi-partisan piece of legislation backed by the Biden administration designed to bring the semi-conductor industry back to the US and reduce our dependency on China and Taiway. It is actually the right way to accomplish economic goals, not capricious tariffs.

www.aei.org

Is the Chips Act Really Working?

Historical analysis shows mixed results for US industrial policy, with R&D support being the most successful. The CHIPS Act's specific industry focus and national security objectives may justify federal intervention, despite early challenges in implementation.
www.aei.org www.aei.org
www.politifact.com

Fact-checking Joe Biden’s statement on the CHIPS Act

Ahead of his 2024 State of the Union address, President Joe Biden said that legislation under his watch boosted private
www.politifact.com www.politifact.com
www.aei.org

The Chips Act Has Been Surprisingly Successful So Far

Debate about the Chips Act has focused on delays and manufacturing difficulties, but the vast volume of investment tells a different story.
www.aei.org www.aei.org
 
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ncguy said:
Well that proves it lol
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No seeing the quality for myself proves it. These are just examples.

A restaurantur has no problem poisoning his customers with gutter oil. A builder has no problem with people dying in a collapse. And the battery manufacturer has no problem with a ebike rider becoming the human torch in China. They care even less about you.
 
Argent said:
I think some of what we're seeing is due to Biden's CHIPS Act and to stay in tRump's good graces, companies will make sure he gets and takes credit for what was probably already planned.
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The CHIPS Act was signed into law 2 1/2 years ago. If it was a response to that, it would've happened much sooner.

Information about Trump's plans and policies didn't start on January 20, 2025. Corporations like Nvidia are well-run and they knew what was coming if Trump won the election well before Election Day. Most likely, they had plans in place for either outcome, and when it was clear that Trump had won, they put those contingencies into action, knowing full well that Trump was planning tariffs that would greatly impact their bottom line.
 
Hello My Son said:
The CHIPS Act was signed into law 2 1/2 years ago. If it was a response to that, it would've happened much sooner.

Information about Trump's plans and policies didn't start on January 20, 2025. Corporations like Nvidia are well-run and they knew what was coming if Trump won the election well before Election Day. Most likely, they had plans in place for either outcome, and when it was clear that Trump had won, they put those contingencies into action, knowing full well that Trump was planning tariffs that would greatly impact their bottom line.
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What are his tariffs... Exactly? Lol
Give the exact countries. Products, amounts and timeframe they will. Apply
Are they guaranteed not to change?
That's what companies need to plan intelligently
 
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