What's the best US region to grow coffee beans?How about bananas? Trump put tariffs on bananas. Where are we going to manufacture bananas? In the Kansas Banana Manufacturing plant?
Alaska?What's the best US region to grow coffee beans?
And yet not a word about DJT.I think it's going to be an exciting day on Wall St tomorrow.
Might allocate more to tech. Grab some Apple and Nvidia if there's an opening.
None of this is impulsive, he knows what he is doing.
If there is a plan, why do so many of his actions contradict each other from week to week and, in some cases, from day to day? I don't buy the snake oil you are trying to sell me.Trump was not only dealing with Democrats during his first term, he was also dealing with Republicans in both the House and Senate who resented his being chosen over the other 17 established Republicans from both houses of Congress he ran against.
Trump is not being impulsive.He is using a tool in the power to set tariffs to both negotiate fairer trade agreements and to compel other "dependent" nations to comply with various policies to improve American Industry and trade. For example, his insistence on the EU nations to buy energy from the USA.
None of this is impulsive, he knows what he is doing.
Trump was not only dealing with Democrats during his first term, he was also dealing with Republicans in both the House and Senate who resented his being chosen over the other 17 established Republicans from both houses of Congress he ran against.
Trump is not being impulsive.He is using a tool in the power to set tariffs to both negotiate fairer trade agreements and to compel other "dependent" nations to comply with various policies to improve American Industry and trade. For example, his insistence on the EU nations to buy energy from the USA.
None of this is impulsive, he knows what he is doing.
Do you think it's a forum problem or do you think Trump supporters are quiet because it's become increasingly difficult to defend his behavior?Me too. It's as if the entire forum has just about fully turned into a liberal echo chamber.
You gotta admit, it has to be exhausting to defend Trump's idiocy day after day.Do you think it's a forum problem or do you think Trump supporters are quiet because it's become increasingly difficult to defend his behavior?
If you think it's a forum problem, can you explain why?
*strategy*
GD spellcheck!
Apple doesn't use anything special they get flea market trash from China. And then turn around and charge $1,000 for phones. All this means for Apple is the CEO isn't going to be able to afford his gold-plated toilet brush this year.
My view is the liberal/conservative imbalance on the forum is counterproductive. That's not the fault of the forum or any left or right posters. It's just the way the numbers now fall.Do you think it's a forum problem or do you think Trump supporters are quiet because it's become increasingly difficult to defend his behavior?
If you think it's a forum problem, can you explain why?
Bottom line not very different than the attacks from the right on Biden and the hateful rhetoric towards him, you being particularly vocal in your disgust with him. Difference is the left engaged and didn't stop posting or run off safer havens. My personal opinion is the right is finding it less and less easy to defend his actions on many fronts not just the economy.My view is the liberal/conservative imbalance on the forum is counterproductive. That's not the fault of the forum or any left or right posters. It's just the way the numbers now fall.
But that leads to a situation where the conversation ends up very one sided, and the narratives and drama build to a very high level (with all the left voices feeding one another).
I think Trump supporters, in general, feel that Trump is getting a lot done and they love his motivation, drive, and accomplishments. Starting with DOGE, I think Republican support is VERY high for what is being uncovered and reduced. Then the border and deportations. Once again, I think Republican support is VERY high for his efforts and successes here. Then the forward progress toward the one big beautiful bill. Here too, I think Republican support is VERY high. Then inflation, so far so good. The numbers are good - like the CPI number from Thursday. Gas is down, mortgage rates are down, eggs are under control, etc. People (mostly Dems) say the tariffs are going to cause high inflation, but we haven't seen that yet.
The tariffs bring more disagreement. While I think many Republicans like the long term goal of fair and balanced trade, the tariffs and that process are making some Republicans feel uncertain and nervous. I'm one who is more than willing to give the tariff plan a chance because I'd love to see trade straightened out and to see the production of some of our most important things happen here at home (like medicine, transportation, energy, and more).
So that's how I think Republicans are feeling. Dems are another story entirely.
I see Dems as furious, feeling Trump is ending the world, hoping beyond all hope that he'll fail miserably, so focused on that failure hope that they now actually want China to "beat" or "crush" Trump (and by default, our country). That's the attitude I think those on the left bring to every thread and with sky high drama. It's a continuation of the Trump hate from his first term and foward to before his second term inauguration - but now amped up by a lot. The more Trump does, the more the left hates him. And Trump is a very busy guy, doing a lot, so the more the left is getting riled up.
This makes for a massive disconnect between the left and right in conversations. So, I think it's just become worthless for the right. Conservatives might as well just leave the (high majority on this forum) left to talk amongst themselves. Leave the left to imagine that the right suddenly disapproves of or has lost support for Trump. That's not reality but the left is spinning so hard, they can't see reality despite what calmer Dem voices are trying to tell them about the situation their own party is currently in.
I'm expect this comment from me will generate a big reaction from several on the left - but you asked me and I'm simply responding with my view and my take. Even your question shows me how very different your view is from mine. If you really think or simply feel better thinking Republicans have soured on Trump (thus don't want to "defend his behavior"), that's your prerogative.
My view is the liberal/conservative imbalance on the forum is counterproductive. That's not the fault of the forum or any left or right posters. It's just the way the numbers now fall.
Oh I imagine he does: if the right people make the right amounts of donations to the right political fund, exemptions may magically appear.
This absolute retard doesn’t know what he’s doing.
All we can do is laugh at this point
All we can do is laugh at this point
I understand that. I'm not ignorant as to the economic rationale behind Trump's actions, I'm inquiring as to how using tariffs to force domestic production to return to the States is compatible with using them to negotiate fair trade? I see this as fundamentally incompatible.That is not the only purpose. The other purpose is FAIR trade. For one example, selling cars in the European Market where Germany has both high tariffs on American cars as well as Value Added Taxes (VAT's) on them. This places the costs of buying an American car outside the range of the average German citizen. This is done to protect the German car sales.
Again, yes, I understand the goal and the reasoning behind it. I'm addressing the execution.That is NONSENSE, and completely opposite of what is occurring. If the foreign producer builds a factory in the USA to make the products, then aside from normal sales taxes (which apply regardless of tariffs) there are no tariffs because the cars are made in the USA. The profit for the Car company is increased due to this.
No, I am very reasonably "inclined" to expect stupidity from him, based on careful observation of his statements and actions through the past ten years, a perusal of his life and multiple failed business ventures long before that, alongside an examination of his demonstrated character traits that lends him no credit in his manner of governance concordant with his personality traits and demonstrated business acumen up to this point. This is a valid distinction. I don't think research will do anything to nullify that.Clearly, but IMO only due to two things. Your failure to actually research the situation including the history leading up to this, and your preexisting confirmation bias indicating a negative view of President Trump. IMO you are "indoctrinated" to expect only evil from him.
Just as a reminder, I asked you why you think there are fewer comments in here defending Trump.My view is the liberal/conservative imbalance on the forum is counterproductive. That's not the fault of the forum or any left or right posters. It's just the way the numbers now fall.
But that leads to a situation where the conversation ends up very one sided, and the narratives and drama build to a very high level (with all the left voices feeding one another).
I think Trump supporters, in general, feel that Trump is getting a lot done and they love his motivation, drive, and accomplishments. Starting with DOGE, I think Republican support is VERY high for what is being uncovered and reduced. Then the border and deportations. Once again, I think Republican support is VERY high for his efforts and successes here. Then the forward progress toward the one big beautiful bill. Here too, I think Republican support is VERY high. Then inflation, so far so good. The numbers are good - like the CPI number from Thursday. Gas is down, mortgage rates are down, eggs are under control, etc. People (mostly Dems) say the tariffs are going to cause high inflation, but we haven't seen that yet.
The tariffs bring more disagreement. While I think many Republicans like the long term goal of fair and balanced trade, the tariffs and that process are making some Republicans feel uncertain and nervous. I'm one who is more than willing to give the tariff plan a chance because I'd love to see trade straightened out and to see the production of some of our most important things happen here at home (like medicine, transportation, energy, and more).
So that's how I think Republicans are feeling. Dems are another story entirely.
I see Dems as furious, feeling Trump is ending the world, hoping beyond all hope that he'll fail miserably, so focused on that failure hope that they now actually want China to "beat" or "crush" Trump (and by default, our country). That's the attitude I think those on the left bring to every thread and with sky high drama. It's a continuation of the Trump hate from his first term and foward to before his second term inauguration - but now amped up by a lot. The more Trump does, the more the left hates him. And Trump is a very busy guy, doing a lot, so the more the left is getting riled up.
This makes for a massive disconnect between the left and right in conversations. So, I think it's just become worthless for the right. Conservatives might as well just leave the (high majority on this forum) left to talk amongst themselves. Leave the left to imagine that the right suddenly disapproves of or has lost support for Trump. That's not reality but the left is spinning so hard, they can't see reality despite what calmer Dem voices are trying to tell them about the situation their own party is currently in.
I'm expect this comment from me will generate a big reaction from several on the left - but you asked me and I'm simply responding with my view and my take. Even your question shows me how very different your view is from mine. If you really think or simply feel better thinking Republicans have soured on Trump (thus don't want to "defend his behavior"), that's your prerogative.
There is a reason one of the most expensive real estate venues doesn’t knock down those expensive hotels and homes and plant coffee. It’s the same reason we don’t bulldoze San Francisco to grow vegetables.Alaska?
Seriously, Hawaii, I guess. But the entire island chain would have to be converted to coffee growing, and I don't know if even that would meet our demand.
It would be way simpler to lift the tariffs on Columbia and other coffee-supplying nations.
But that would be the sane thing to do, so obviously, it's off the table.
And get out of here with any talk about tea. Yech. But, wait, even tea's imported too...!
That is not the only purpose. The other purpose is FAIR trade. For one example, selling cars in the European Market where Germany has both high tariffs on American cars as well as Value Added Taxes (VAT's) on them. This places the costs of buying an American car outside the range of the average German citizen. This is done to protect the German car sales.
As @Aristaeus said, the VAT is basically a sales tax and it applies to everything sold, even domestic production. It would be like complaining that the U.S. is unfair to Germany because Mercedes and Audis sold in New York are levied an 8-5/8% sales tax on Audis sold in NY.That is not the only purpose. The other purpose is FAIR trade. For one example, selling cars in the European Market where Germany has both high tariffs on American cars as well as Value Added Taxes (VAT's) on them. This places the costs of buying an American car outside the range of the average German citizen. This is done to protect the German car sales.
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As @Aristaeus said, the VAT is basically a sales tax and it applies to everything sold, even domestic production. It would be like complaining that the U.S. is unfair to Germany because Mercedes and Audis sold in New York are levied an 8-5/8% sales tax on Audis sold in NY.
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