Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shooting

[trixare4kids]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings

President Trump called Monday for reforms at the intersection of mental health and gun laws -- including so-called "red flag laws" to take guns from those deemed a public risk -- in the wake of back-to-back mass shootings over the weekend that left at least 30 people dead.
“Our nation is overcome with shock, horror and sorrow,” Trump said, in solemn remarks from the White House. “We are outraged and sickened by this monstrous evil.”

In unequivocal terms, the president also condemned white supremacy, responding to reports that the shooter in El Paso wrote a racist manifesto.
"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,” Trump said, standing beside Vice President Pence. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hatred has no place in America.”

The president notably did not call for explicit changes to gun laws beyond red flag laws, despite tweeting earlier Monday morning about the possibility of linking background check legislation to immigration reform. However, he said he is open and ready to listen to ideas "that will actually work."

The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

 

[Carleen]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

His first move should be to get the right city in Ohio that he claims to grieve about.

 

[JustHanging]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

Condemned White Supremacy? :lamo How long before he walks it back this time?

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Just like he "condemned" his supporters who made the racist "Send them back" chant? It was so bad, Trump felt the need to stop it. Then the next day Trump said there was nothing wrong with it..

One thing we do know is, the White Supremacists, the racists, are getting Trump's message loud and clear.

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Your defense of Trump's blatant racism isn't fooling anyone but the already converted.

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And no wonder, lately it's been racist tweet after racist tweet from the Racist-In-Chief.

Trump blasts 'breeding' in sanctuary cities. That's a racist term.

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[swing_voter]

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

This sounds like "the gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge and ban you from firearms. I think it's a good way to keep crazy people away from guns.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

Japan has violent video games and they have a low amount of homicides.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

Most of the shooters are planning on dying anyways.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

I don't know if it will have much of an effect. My guess is it will have a minimal effect, the members of these forums will just move somewhere else..

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

Have an AI scan social media, looking for crazies? It might work, but it sort of seems Orwellian.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Like I said, video games don't make these shooters. There's a saying that goes like "Violent video games don't make shooters but shooters like to play violent video games", or something like that.

 

[trixare4kids]

His first move should be to get the right city in Ohio that he claims to grieve about.

It's always good when one joins the discussion just to argue the inane.

Carry on with the red herrings....

 

[Utility Man]

Yeah, remember the calls for peace, harmony and understanding when Obama was re-elected.

And recall his constant rejection of calls for violence at his peace rallies.

Who could forget him telling us that immigrants are typically seeking a better life and should be treated with dignity.

Yeah, he can go **** himself.

 

[trixare4kids]

This sounds like "the gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge and ban you from firearms. I think it's a good way to keep crazy people away from guns.





Japan has violent video games and they have a low amount of homicides.



Most of the shooters are planning on dying anyways.




I don't know if it will have much of an effect. My guess is it will have a minimal effect, the members of these forums will just move somewhere else..




Have an AI scan social media, looking for crazies? It might work, but it sort of seems Orwellian.




Like I said, video games don't make these shooters. There's a saying that goes like "Violent video games don't make shooters but shooters like to play violent video games", or something like that.

What are your solutions?

 

[Carleen]

He did not use the word “I” condemn and he really needs to say that if he is to be believed.

 

[jmotivator]

His first move should be to get the right city in Ohio that he claims to grieve about.

Full disclosure, I disagree with almost every policy initiative that Trump brought up today. They are far closer to Democrat policy than they are to conservative (but, as I keep saying, Trump isn't conservative)

I think if the Democrats want to actually make something of this tragedy other than votes, they would be better served addressing the Democrat friendly, big state solutions that Trump is offering rather than make their response about him saying Toledo instead of Dayton. Especially when the guy leading the Democratic primaries got both cities wrong.

 

[Media_Truth]

Yeah, remember the calls for peace, harmony and understanding when Obama was re-elected.

And recall his constant rejection of calls for violence at his peace rallies.

Who could forget him telling us that immigrants are typically seeking a better life and should be treated with dignity.

Yeah, he can go **** himself.

Good thing his writers wrote the speech, otherwise we would have probably heard more of this.

 

[poweRob]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

Bull****. He blamed immigration. Basically laying the groundwork for saying the shooter was a victim. Then blamed the media and then blamed mental illness. Meanwhile the rest of the goo seems to be blaming video games.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings



The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

I think we knew that NO matter what president Trump said he would be vilified by the MSM and the democratic party.
They don't care what was said they have their narrative to attack the president regardless of what action he was ordering.
They will push the lie that he is a racist and supports white supremacists That's really all they can do now. It's the go to
attack since the phony Russian collusion imploded. The R word was Russia, now it's Racist!

Booker is just trying get some attention with his attack against the president.... Just another democratic clown trying to win the white House

 

[trixare4kids]

He did not use the word “I” condemn and he really needs to say that if he is to be believed.

You're arguing semantics.

Trump condemns racism and white supremacy

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy," Mr Trump said on Monday. "These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America."

 

[TurtleDude]

He did not use the word “I” condemn and he really needs to say that if he is to be believed.

More TDS nonsense

 

[Common Sense 1]

He did not use the word “I” condemn and he really needs to say that if he is to be believed.

So it would not matter what he said... you would still be bitching about it right?

In unequivocal terms, the president also condemned white supremacy, responding to reports that the shooter in El Paso wrote a racist manifesto.

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,” Trump said, standing beside Vice President Pence. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hatred has no place in America.”

Trump called the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice.”

“I know that I stand with everyone in this Country to condemn today’s hateful act. There are no reasons or excuses that will ever justify killing innocent people,” he tweeted.

On Sunday, the president said that "hate has no place in our country," and once again condemned the attacks.

 

[Media_Truth]

Trump condemns ‘white supremacy,’ calls for mental health and gun reforms after double mass shootings

The president says they've done a lot but much more needs to be done, mostly preventative and deterent in nature.

What have they done? Armed teachers?

Among his proposals, the president

1) calls for red-flag laws to allow the seizure of firearms from those judged to pose a grave risk to public safety.

2) calls for "cultural" changes, citing violent video games.

3) calls on the Justice Department to propose legislation ensuring that those commit hate crimes and mass murders "face the death penalty and that this capital punishment be delivered quickly, decisively, and without years of needless delay.

4) endorses policing the "dark recesses of the Internet" in a bid to catch mass murderers before they act; 8chan?

5) calls DOJ to work in partnership with local, state, and federal agencies and social media companies to develop tools to identify mass shooters before they strike.

6) calls others to stop the glorification of violence in our society; grisly video games.
He says, "It is too easy for troubled youth to surround themselves with a culture that celebrates violence. We must stop or substantially reduce this and it has to begin immediately."

I am in full support of these initiatives, especially numbers 1 and 5, but based on past actions, I think this is lip service, in an attempt to hold onto swing voters.

Of course with minutes of delivering his address to the nation where Trump calls
the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice," Cory Booker calls him weak and wrong. :roll:

Cory Booker@CoryBooker
"The president is weak. And wrong.

White supremacy is not a mental illness, and guns are a tool that white supremacists use to fulfill their hate."

Corey Booker is not president. Trump and his advisors know that he will lose a lot of swing votes if he doesn't give a bunch of empty promises. I believe we will see little action, once the NRA starts making public announcements, and FOX News starts parroting their rhetoric. Next thing, Trump will be tweeting obscenities to minorities, instead of action on these promises.

 

[ocean515]

His first move should be to get the right city in Ohio that he claims to grieve about.

The Presidential front runner for the Democratic party got both cities wrong...…….

Just sayin'

 

[Taylor]

You're arguing semantics.

Trump condemns racism and white supremacy

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy," Mr Trump said on Monday. "These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hate has no place in America."

Yes, because of course if he had used "I" instead, the TDS crowd would be whining about how egotistical he is and how he's using a tragedy to try to improve his image instead of bringing the country together like Obama would have done... yadda yadda yadda.

 

[JustHanging]

Yeah, remember the calls for peace, harmony and understanding when Obama was re-elected.

And recall his constant rejection of calls for violence at his peace rallies.

Who could forget him telling us that immigrants are typically seeking a better life and should be treated with dignity.

Yeah, he can go **** himself.

Trying to pretend Trump condemns White Supremacy is ridiculous. His constant blatant racism demonstrates just how ridiculous.


But hey, if you're trying to defend someone who literally said some KKK and NeoNazis are "very fine people", I don't suppose you can do much else but gaslight.

 

[Carleen]

So it would not matter what he said... you would still be bitching about it right?

In unequivocal terms, the president also condemned white supremacy, responding to reports that the shooter in El Paso wrote a racist manifesto.

"In one voice, our nation must condemn racism, bigotry and white supremacy,” Trump said, standing beside Vice President Pence. “These sinister ideologies must be defeated. Hatred has no place in America.”

Trump called the shooting in El Paso “tragic” and an “act of cowardice.”

“I know that I stand with everyone in this Country to condemn today’s hateful act. There are no reasons or excuses that will ever justify killing innocent people,” he tweeted.

On Sunday, the president said that "hate has no place in our country," and once again condemned the attacks.

He needs to stop encouraging the hate and if he was serious about better gun control he would push McConnell to pass the two bills that he has been sitting on or at least bring them up for a vote. That would show me he is serious.

 

[swing_voter]

What are your solutions?

A study of Connecticut homicide rates going back to the mid-1980s concludes that the state’s 1995 permit-to-purchase gun law cut handgun-related homicides by 40 percent.

The study by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, found there were 296 fewer gun deaths in the 10 years after the law’s passage than would have occurred had it not been approved.

The 1995 law required individuals seeking to purchase handguns to apply in person to police for a permit. It required background checks even for those buying handguns privately — closing the so-called “gun-show loophole.’’ It also raised the minimum age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21 and required at least eight hours of safety training.

Study: Gun-permit law cut homicides 40 percent - Connecticut Post


This gun law they passed in Connecticut reduced the homicide rate there by 40%. It's only directed at handguns but it could include rifles too. You have to go visit the police to get a permit and take a safety course.


And the "gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge, and if the judge agrees, get a restraining order that bans you from being anywhere near a gun.

These two laws aren't going to be 100% effective, but if we cut down mass shootings by 40% or more, it's a good thing.

And these laws won't change the lives of 99.99999% of gun owners, other than having to fill out a bit more paper work.

 

[JustHanging]

Bull****. He blamed immigration. Basically laying the groundwork for saying the shooter was a victim. Then blamed the media and then blamed mental illness. Meanwhile the rest of the goo seems to be blaming video games.

"Never accept personal responsibility". The Trump mantra. And much of his base's.


Here's another picture of Trump's "very fine people".

 

[trixare4kids]

I think we knew that NO matter what president Trump said he would be vilified by the MSM and the democratic party.
They don't care what was said they have their narrative to attack the president regardless of what action he was ordering.
They will push the lie that he is a racist and supports white supremacists That's really all they can do now. It's the go to
attack since the phony Russian collusion imploded. The R word was Russia, now it's Racist!

Booker is just trying get some attention with his attack against the president.... Just another democratic clown trying to win the white House

Resist, resist, resist... That's all they have is their nauseous resistance. If they aren't part of the solution, they're part of the problem.

Meanwhile, right after Trump's address to the nation, Lindsey Graham said he'll introduce a bill co-sponsored with Democrat Richard Blumenthal to create a federal grant program to aid states adopt red flag laws. I'm all on board with. We need to get rid of the red tape... This is a good move to remove weapons from the mentally ill, sick in the head shooters with hateful ideologues, those who are deemed a risk to themselves and others.

"State Red Flag laws will provide the tools for law enforcement to do something about many of these situations before it's too late," Mr Graham said in a statement.

 

[TurtleDude]

A study of Connecticut homicide rates going back to the mid-1980s concludes that the state’s 1995 permit-to-purchase gun law cut handgun-related homicides by 40 percent.

The study by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, found there were 296 fewer gun deaths in the 10 years after the law’s passage than would have occurred had it not been approved.

The 1995 law required individuals seeking to purchase handguns to apply in person to police for a permit. It required background checks even for those buying handguns privately — closing the so-called “gun-show loophole.’’ It also raised the minimum age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21 and required at least eight hours of safety training.

Study: Gun-permit law cut homicides 40 percent - Connecticut Post


This gun law they passed in Connecticut reduced the homicide rate there by 40%. It's only directed at handguns but it could include rifles too. You have to go visit the police to get a permit and take a safety course.


And the "gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge, and if the judge agrees, get a restraining order that bans you from being anywhere near a gun.

These two laws aren't going to be 100% effective, but if we cut down mass shootings by 40% or more, it's a good thing.

And these laws won't change the lives of 99.99999% of gun owners, other than having to fill out a bit more paper work.

other states that did not impose those idiotic laws, also had decreases in crime. and claiming its just more paperwork is a tired bit of BS and it is unconstitutional

 

[KevinKohler]

A study of Connecticut homicide rates going back to the mid-1980s concludes that the state’s 1995 permit-to-purchase gun law cut handgun-related homicides by 40 percent.

The study by Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, a part of the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, found there were 296 fewer gun deaths in the 10 years after the law’s passage than would have occurred had it not been approved.

The 1995 law required individuals seeking to purchase handguns to apply in person to police for a permit. It required background checks even for those buying handguns privately — closing the so-called “gun-show loophole.’’ It also raised the minimum age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21 and required at least eight hours of safety training.

Study: Gun-permit law cut homicides 40 percent - Connecticut Post


This gun law they passed in Connecticut reduced the homicide rate there by 40%. It's only directed at handguns but it could include rifles too. You have to go visit the police to get a permit and take a safety course.


And the "gun restraining order" where your family can go to a judge, and if the judge agrees, get a restraining order that bans you from being anywhere near a gun.

These two laws aren't going to be 100% effective, but if we cut down mass shootings by 40% or more, it's a good thing.

And these laws won't change the lives of 99.99999% of gun owners, other than having to fill out a bit more paper work.

Ddebunked, due to fixing the problems with ONE city, New Haven.

Gun control had nothing to do with CRIME reduction.