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Trump Campaign Fails To Produce Evidence Of Voter Fraud In PA Lawsuit

You keep ignoring that this was detected and a remedy is in place. What your Dirtbag hopes to do is not let people vote at all which makes his cheating irremediable.

So saying voter fraud in NJ was detected and they have a remedy minimizes the fact it exists and could happen in any state that uses mail-in voting. Is that what you are stating? Confirming the obvious and evident?
 
One thing is clear--If the Dem party can't mobilized and get people out for early voting as soon as it begins in all states that have it and make sure people who want absentee ballots can get them then they really need to examine whether it should be a political party at all. It appears that they're on top of this but in order to overcome that massive cheating Dirtbag every effort has to be squared to make sure voters overcome that cheating.

It is comforting when an anti-Trumper makes perfect sense.
 
It's just a fact that there's been more 'in-person voter' fraud than there has ever been with mail in ballots. In Florida, almost 30% of votes in the last presidential election were cast by mail, and voters did not have to provide an excuse, be absent from the state, or go through an enhanced screening process as Trump wants to do now. Does this mean that the 30% of votes cast by mail were fraudulent in 2015? Would Trump dare to claim they were since he won the state of Florida? The kind of massive fraud described by Trump is simply farcical.

Are you suggesting that Trump exaggerates, uses hyperbole, is off the wall, and is usually over the top with his comments?
That must have been the first time.
 
How about voter fraud in New Jersey? Does that count as fraud to be wary of?

What happened to the Democratic narrative
"There is no evidence of voter fraud in this country.?
Believe me, if it happened in NJ, it could happen anywhere.
Fuggeddaboutit.


Townhall.com
August 23, 2020
NJ Election Invalidated Over Rampant Voter Fraud...Which I Was Told Doesn't Happen in the US
Matt Vespa
8/23/2020 4:00:00 AM - Matt Vespa


Very few states have extensive experience with mail-only voting, Washington is one of them. They count all the ballots, but it takes a couple of days. Yet, they’ve been doing this for quite some time. New Jersey, which recently announced that they will adopt mail-in voting for the 2020 election, does not have experience doing this en masse at all. But back to Paterson.

Back in June, it was reported that nearly 20 percent of the ballots in the city’s municipal elections were done via mail-in voting were invalidated over fraud. And yes, it’s so bad that even a hard-core Democratic state like New Jersey was forced to charge people for this crime. Last week, the election itself was tossed out by a judge over the rampant fraud (via NYT):

In the days before New Jersey’s third-largest city held municipal elections in May entirely by mail, postal workers became suspicious when they found hundreds of ballots bundled together.

The discovery triggered an investigation that led to charges of voter fraud against two local elected leaders and resulted in nearly 20 percent of the ballots being rejected. It also prompted President Trump to cite the case as an example of how mail-in voting can corrupt elections, though election experts staunchly disagree.

On Wednesday, a New Jersey judge ruled that the election in Paterson, N.J., had been irreversibly tainted and ordered a new vote to be held in November to settle the race for the City Council seat.

The superior court judge, Ernest M. Caposela, wrote that the election “was not the fair, free and full expression of the intent of the voters.”

It’s not the only electoral disaster to hit the Tri-State area. In New York’s primaries, it took weeks to could the deluge of ballots—that cannot happen for a national election. These states simply do not have the experience or the capabilities to do their elections by mail-in only. To game out a 2020 scenario, the chaos that would ensue from such delays would make the rioting in Minneapolis and the leftist upheaval in Portland and Seattle look like Sesame Street. Maybe that’s exactly what Democrats wanted. Every move they’ve made under the Trump White House has been done to maximize dysfunction, economic pain, and mayhem among ordinary Americans, with the defund the police effort being the most overt.


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NJ Election Invalidated Over Rampant Voter Fraud...Which I Was Told Doesn't Happen in the US

I thought I had already read about this issue on this very thread, and that it had been roundly debunked, let's see...

Oh, here it is

and here is another

so, why does it keep coming up?

(Note: had to delete some of the post I answered in order to keep under 5,000 characters)
 
Any "voter fraud' is minuscule at best, and usually the GOP is behind it.

But that's what you people are best at. Projection. Whatever you're guilty of, you then flip it and say you're perceived political enemies are the ones guilty of it.

Are you saying that political parties are not honest when they accuse another party of wrongdoing?
If that's the case, why should we listen to anything a party leader has to say?
 
Are you saying that political parties are not honest when they accuse another party of wrongdoing?
If that's the case, why should we listen to anything a party leader has to say?

With all this "voter fraud" going on, should we be questioning whether Trump is a legitimate president?
 
So saying voter fraud in NJ was detected and they have a remedy minimizes the fact it exists and could happen in any state that uses mail-in voting. Is that what you are stating? Confirming the obvious and evident?

Nobody's denying that election/voter fraud does happen but the fact is that it's miniscule, it usually gets caught and there's no evidence that it ever made a difference in any major election (statewide or national). OTOH, voter suppression by Republicans is well documented and has figured decisively in multiple major elections.
 
Are you suggesting that Trump exaggerates, uses hyperbole, is off the wall, and is usually over the top with his comments?
That must have been the first time.

If only your fantasy of what Dirtbag does was true. He's a serial, habitual and pathologic liar. Counting lies he keeps repeating he's well over the 30,000 mark not counting ones made before he was "selected."
 
With all this "voter fraud" going on, should we be questioning whether Trump is a legitimate president?

While the left frets whether Trump will accept the results of the 2020 election they still refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election. When the left accuses the right of something its usually the activity they are engaged in.
 
While the left frets whether Trump will accept the results of the 2020 election they still refuse to accept the results of the 2016 election. When the left accuses the right of something its usually the activity they are engaged in.

Who is refusing to accept the results of the 2016 election?
 
Are you saying that political parties are not honest when they accuse another party of wrongdoing?

Nooo, what's happening, and has been the case now for decades, is that Republicans lie constantly about Dems doing this while they're busy buggering elections through voter suppression. Pay attention.
 
I thought I had already read about this issue on this very thread, and that it had been roundly debunked, let's see...

Oh, here it is

and here is another

so, why does it keep coming up?

(Note: had to delete some of the post I answered in order to keep under 5,000 characters)

So you are saying that NJ voter fraud does not exist? Or is just too insignificant to even bring it up?
Is it kind of like ignoring that Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and no one really cares?
 
Who is refusing to accept the results of the 2016 election?

They need to keep using every morsel of their massive stockpile of BS to back Dirtbag up when he refuses to accept the results of the election no matter how big the vote goes against him.
 
So you are saying that NJ voter fraud does not exist? Or is just too insignificant to even bring it up?
Is it kind of like ignoring that Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and no one really cares?

Find a new tune. This one went flat a dozen or more of these identical dronings ago.
 
Again, Minuscule...

Move right along. Nothing here to see.
Not worth talking about. NJ is just a simple aberration.
Republicans are much worse. Orange man bad.
Biden will fix everything. Just you wait and see.
 
Nooo, what's happening, and has been the case now for decades, is that Republicans lie constantly about Dems doing this while they're busy buggering elections through voter suppression. Pay attention.

Now I get it. The GOP is the guilty party because Orange Man is bad and therefore anything the GOP does has to be bad.
 
Now I get it. The GOP is the guilty party because Orange Man is bad and therefore anything the GOP does has to be bad.



CONGRATULATIONS

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Find a new tune. This one went flat a dozen or more of these identical dronings ago.

The Trump Administration is being accused of sabotaging the USPS just before the election because mailboxes were removed.
Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and you don't care because you have heard it before.
Similar to ignoring that Obama built the cages on the southern border to house families and then Trump is accused of keeping families in those same cages.

Ignore the past and act as if Trump is doing something new.
 
Let's unpack that BS, turd by turd:

The Trump Administration is being accused of sabotaging the USPS just before the election because mailboxes were removed.

And sorting machines put out of service and carriers ordered not to finish delivering mail and refusal to pay any overtime when mail volume increases, etc...etc...etc.

Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and you don't care because you have heard it before.
A. not done just before election and B. Was planned over a 5 year period and C. Not actually carried out:
What The OIG Found
The Eastern Area’s collection box removal process was not effective. While the area and its 10 districts had established procedures for removing and relocating collection boxes, they were not consistently followed. Specifically, only 60 of the
6,371 underused business and residential collection boxes identified during the 2015 national density test were removed or relocated. Our analysis indicated an additional 1,808 collection boxes could have been removed and another 637 relocated.
USPSIG Report DR-AR-16-007

Similar to ignoring that Obama built the cages on the southern border to house families and then Trump is accused of keeping families in those same cages.
This is what happens when the Cult loses track of all its lies. Obama kept accompanied minors together with their parents while Dirtbag split the children away from parents who were then deported and kept such poor record keeping that some 2,000 of those children didn't have any record of who or where their parents went.

Ignore the past and act as if Trump is doing something new.
Family separation was a new policy. Another thing new under Dirtbag was children dying in ICE/CBP/ORR custody: Six Children Died in Border Patrol Care. Democrats in Congress Want to Know Why. — ProPublica
 
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Interesting how liberals keep ignoring this...

Paterson, NJ, to hold new election in City Council race marred by voter fraud charges | Fox News

Are you all guaranteeing to us that if we have universal mail-in voting, there will be no instances of voter fraud?

If there are, what is your plan? And how will you prevent the nation from degrading into chaos?

Easy! Give more money to the USPS to ensure timely delivery of all mail-in ballots. The instant in NJ that you keep reposting was caught, it didn't work. It was not voter fraud because it didn't lead to a fraudulent result. How come you left off the instant in NC two years ago where GOP operatives we caught sipping off Dem ballots to the point that the incumbent decided not to run in the new election.

Board Orders New Election in Fraud-Tainted NC-9 Race - The Atlantic

It didn't work either they got caught. Voter fraud means that they're NOT caught and the election result was verified erroneously.
 
So you are saying that NJ voter fraud does not exist? Or is just too insignificant to even bring it up?
Is it kind of like ignoring that Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and no one really cares?

No, it actually has nothing at all to do with Obama or any mailboxes he might have removed. It has to to with the findings in the link I gave, just back a couple of pages in this thread.
 
Move right along. Nothing here to see.
Not worth talking about. NJ is just a simple aberration.
Republicans are much worse. Orange man bad.
Biden will fix everything. Just you wait and see.

It will take Biden and a whole lot more a long time to even begin to fix the Trump mess, but other than that, you have it.
 
Now I get it. The GOP is the guilty party because Orange Man is bad and therefore anything the GOP does has to be bad.

No.
The GOP really has nothing to do with it. The GOP is no more. It is now the Party of Trump. It has gone to POT.
And I for one don't care what color makeup Trump uses. Orange man is meaningless. Conman Don is a better nickname.
 
The Trump Administration is being accused of sabotaging the USPS just before the election because mailboxes were removed.
Obama removed 12,000 mailboxes and you don't care because you have heard it before.
Similar to ignoring that Obama built the cages on the southern border to house families and then Trump is accused of keeping families in those same cages.

Ignore the past and act as if Trump is doing something new.

and was there a reason to have universal vote by mail back during the Obama Administration? Is there a reason now to make it as difficult as possible to vote? What, exactly has changed again?
 
Let's unpack that BS, turd by turd:



And sorting machines put out of service and carriers ordered not to finish delivering mail and refusal to pay any overtime when mail volume increases, etc...etc...etc.


A. not done just before election and B. Was planned over a 5 year period and C. Not actually carried out:

USPSIG Report DR-AR-16-007


This is what happens when the Cult loses track of all its lies. Obama kept accompanied minors together with their parents while Dirtbag split the children away from parents who were then deported and kept such poor record keeping that some 2,000 of those children didn't have any record of who or where their parents went.


Family separation was a new policy. Another thing new under Dirtbag was children dying in ICE/CBP/ORR custody: Six Children Died in Border Patrol Care. Democrats in Congress Want to Know Why. — ProPublica

So Trump did worse things than Obama did.
If your rationalizations about Obama's actions make you feel better about how you demonize Trump, well, then that is a way for you to live your life.
Anyone can rationalize anything away if you dig hard enough.
 
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