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Trump branded as criminal in connection with his actions as President

Fledermaus said:
How exactly is a standing President "fired"?
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The best way would be 'voted out of office'. Two potential ways would be 'impeachment and 'declared incompetent'. Those are legal, but never have been done. John Hinkley Jr unsuccessfully tried to fire Reagan, but did not succeed. Hopefully, no one will ever try to go that route again. Only the first option is viable when it comes to maintaining stability.
 
Drawdown said:
Be that as it may, the democrats have some real challenges. Of their three front runners, two are grumpy old white men, and the third is a not very energizing woman whose impulses for debtor protections will read to a lot of of people like deadbeat protection schemes and who will otherwise make a lot of people's wallets tremble in fear every time she says the word "free". Someone as well-known, experienced, well-connected, well-financed, and destined as Hillary couldn't take down Trump. I have trouble seeing any of those three doing it. Unless the DNC can find another choice, I am afraid they will be accessories after the fact to Mr. Trump's re-election.
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There's a lot of trump fatigue out there people are sick of them
 
RAMOSS said:
The best way would be 'voted out of office'. Two potential ways would be 'impeachment and 'declared incompetent'. Those are legal, but never have been done. John Hinkley Jr unsuccessfully tried to fire Reagan, but did not succeed. Hopefully, no one will ever try to go that route again. Only the first option is viable when it comes to maintaining stability.
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To shoot someone is not to fire them, it is to fire at them.

The distinction is important
 
smallvoice said:
Like you folks did on the Russian Collusion sham? Or the "racist" screed? You Libs have lost all veracity in discussions about Trump, because from Day One, you have been unable to make your crap stick.
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Oh, bravo.

Your fact based rantings, sorry I mean your verified comments, no that's not what I'm trying to say.....

The utter BULLSH*T you spray out on here without any concern other than your opinion or belief attests to the stupidity often shown on here.

You were simply asked for some proof, backup, evidence or confirmation and you go on a personal attack.

When you do so it makes you look like a child at a table full of adults.

Many conservatives debate on here and never are seen to stomp their feet, lie on the floor kicking and screaming, throw a hissy fit or a temper tantrum, but it is pretty common with you.

As Trump would say, sad

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OscarLevant said:
To shoot someone is not to fire them, it is to fire at them.

The distinction is important
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If they are deceased, they are no longer on the job. Laid off, laid to rest, what's the difference?
 
Dick Tornado said:
Oh, bravo.

Your fact based rantings, sorry I mean your verified comments, no that's not what I'm trying to say.....

The utter BULLSH*T you spray out on here without any concern other than your opinion or belief attests to the stupidity often shown on here.

You were simply asked for some proof, backup, evidence or confirmation and you go on a personal attack.

When you do so it makes you look like a child at a table full of adults.

Many conservatives debate on here and never are seen to stomp their feet, lie on the floor kicking and screaming, throw a hissy fit or a temper tantrum, but it is pretty common with you.

As Trump would say, sad

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READ THE REPORT. Then go away.

When you get some facts, post which of your charges have stuck. Why haven't you started Impeachment proceedings?
 
smallvoice said:
READ THE REPORT. Then go away.

When you get some facts, post which of your charges have stuck. Why haven't you started Impeachment proceedings?
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I actually have read the report.

I read it within days of its release.

Why have I not started impeachment?

Only because I am not in congress.

Have I emailed EVERY congressman to do so?

Yes, All of them republican and democratic.
 
OscarLevant said:
There's a lot of trump fatigue out there people are sick of them
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And there is a lot of democrat fatigue especially in a crowd of 20+ trying to get face time on TV after two years of gone nowhere scandals of the day, particularly the 11th hour Kavanaugh theatrics. Incumbents are harder to beat than a normal candidate generally, we have RBG circling the drain, and democrats are still talking about the same crap they have been talking about forever. Time will tell, but I don't see them winning by going to the left. They are going to need a pragmatic centrist who doesn't scare people.
 
Dick Tornado said:
I actually have read the report.

I read it within days of its release.

Why have I not started impeachment?

Only because I am not in congress.

Have I emailed EVERY congressman to do so?

Yes, All of them republican and democratic.
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Well, it's a good thing you have no authority, because if you 'think' there is something there, it's a good thing you aren't in a position to make a fool of yourself. The "Scandal of the Day" hasn't helped you folks....
 
RAMOSS said:
The best way would be 'voted out of office'. Two potential ways would be 'impeachment and 'declared incompetent'. Those are legal, but never have been done. John Hinkley Jr unsuccessfully tried to fire Reagan, but did not succeed. Hopefully, no one will ever try to go that route again. Only the first option is viable when it comes to maintaining stability.
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Agree 100% with what you said.
 
snakestretcher said:
You asked a question, you got your answer. Do your own homework in future.
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Your answer is absolutely wrong. A president can't be removed from office using the 25th Amendment.
 
smallvoice said:
No, and yours is devoid of any factual meaning. Address the charge or hide in the shadows....
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Your post was an off topic rant. You want an answer to your nonsensical rant, start an “off topic” thread.
 
Condor060 said:
THen you should have not problem spreading it around. Please do. One thing you can depend on with Liberals, doing the same thing over and over expecting different result.
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Actually, doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different reaction is logical. Ever hear of the Chaos Theory?
 
to those who insist tRump is not guilty, watch the video of TedLieu discussing the report with its author, Bob Mueller:

notice that Mueller agreed to the points Lieu was making regarding tRump's obstruction

LIEU: You wrote there on Page 97, “Sessions was being instructed to tell the special counsel to end the existing investigation into the president and his campaign.” That’s in the report, correct?

MUELLER: Correct.

LIEU: That would be evidence of an obstructive act, because it would naturally obstruct the investigation, correct?

MUELLER: Correct.
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LIEU: You wrote, “Substantial evidence indicates that the President’s effort to have Sessions limit the scope of the Special Counsel’s investigation to future election interference was intended to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President’s and his campaign’s conduct.” That’s in the report, correct?

MUELLER: That is in the report. …

LIEU: … Now we’ve heard that the president ordered Corey Lewandowski to tell Jeff Sessions to limit your investigation so that he — you — stop investigating the president. I believe a reasonable person looking at these facts could conclude that all three elements of the crime of obstruction of justice have been met. And I’d like to ask you, the reason again that you did not indict Donald Trump is because of OLC opinion stating that you cannot indict a sitting president, correct?

MUELLER: That is correct.
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again, the video reveals the facts of obstruction of justice

the OP's cited article is brilliant in its opening:

As Trump tweeted when the results of Mueller’s report were first made public in the form of Attorney General William P. Barr’s four-page letter describing it, “No Collusion, No Obstruction, Complete and Total EXONERATION.”

In this world, how would Mueller’s testimony on Wednesday before the House Judiciary Committee have gone?

Given the interest Democrats have in painting Trump in the worst possible light and the interest Republicans have in painting him in the best possible light, there’s no mystery. Republicans would have been respectful and welcoming to Mueller, and might read portions of his report back to him and ask him to confirm that they were accurate. Those passages would demonstrate to all listening that Trump was indeed innocent.

Democrats, on the other hand, would be hostile. They would attack Mueller’s methods, question his integrity, accuse him of ignoring important facts and generally act as though the investigation that had so totally exonerated Trump was nothing but a sham.
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Yet that’s exactly the opposite of what happened. In fact, it was Democrats who read parts of the report to Mueller and asked him to confirm that they were accurate. And it was Republicans who ranted and raved, accused Mueller of bias and tossed around bizarre conspiracy theories. It’s almost as though Republicans knew that the investigation did not in fact produce a “Complete and Total EXONERATION" but rather a damning indictment of the president.
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Fledermaus said:
From the link... “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office,”

Unable.

What in the OP show him to be unable?
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Turn on the television, and watch him. He’s lame. He says absolutely stupid and childish things in public.

Buying Greenland.

Congratulating Poland on the 80th anniversary of their being invaded by Germany in 1939.
 
Helix said:
Tell yourself anything you like.
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SIAP. If I can post for Fledermaus, he is saying that Senators wouldn't be reelected if they opposed factual and serious allegations leading to impeachment of Trump.
The house needs to provide factual and serious allegations to proceed with the Trump impeachment. I think Pelosi has said as much.
 
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