Trump: ‘A Lot of People Are Saying Maybe We’d Like a Dictator’

[Chomsky]

It's hard to flip 15 Senate seats, but flipping all of those seats might not be necessary to get an impeachment conviction.

Many GOP senators are VERY unhappy with Trump, and might vote to convict when given the opportunity. So maybe Dems picking up 8 or 9 seats might be enough.

Look, I respect your opinion. But straight-up, I don't see a snowball's chance.

 

[Michael Cole]

You've said that before, but I am having a hard time envisioning it.

Is it Res land, government owned land or what that stops people from building suburban attachments to Reno (the city)?

Federal land. If you're really interested, the links are in my sig. The feds own ~85% of the state. If land bills hadn't passed in the '90s, there wouldn't be over 2,000,000 people in the Las Vegas Valley. The state had no need for land until rapid growth in the '90s left Las Vegas in the position we are now in up north.

Everything is built out here. Topography is as limiting as the feds. Most suburbs consist of small valleys, some tiny, that hold less than 10,000 people. The Mt. Rose corridor is built up from the valley floor almost to the summit. These are wealthy communities. These suburban areas are also well built out, but are mostly gated communities where the price of admission is in the multi-millions. The housing shortage isn't related to high-income suburbs.

Here's a photo from someone who hiked up Verdi Peak, which is just across the state line in California. It illustrates the housing issue.

The small patch of flat land center left is the town of Verdi, a suburb west of Reno. The area to the left of the freeway is developed. The area to the right is under construction. This is an old picture, but 1,200 acres of the foothills are now under construction with luxury homes. This will build out Verdi. The development, Quilici Ranch, borders on Forest Service land and the Mt. Rose Wilderness. Nowhere else to go.

Notice the topography. Homes are built up into the mountainside as far as they can practically be built. This is actually wide open space compared to parts of the North Valleys. Panther Valley may be a half square mile. Golden Valley may be a square mile and a half.

Anyway, there are limited infill projects and some, like the Quilici property, are building out the last remaining substantially sized parcels. With the growth of the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center east of Sparks, it would make sense to free up federal land between the two, which Rosen's bill addresses. The TRI Center employs over 20,000 people, all of whom commute. Building housing five miles away from work rather than 15 miles away makes sense to me, but politics doesn't always make sense.

 

[reinaert]

Here's what's worse. The starting salary for a no talent, no qualifications ICE agent is 90k a year with a 50k sign on bonus. As Trump continues savaging the economy, when will people stop fighting themselves over the moral quandary, and just start taking the blood money because the rent is due and groceries are $400 a week?

A lot sooner, I think, than is comfortable for a lot of people.

A bit of correction. It's $89k and change, and there is some regional variability. It can be a starting salary of $49k. Sign on is still $50k.

My contention remains that this will be attractive to more and more people as the economy is guttered.

 

[MTAtech]

From last year...

Everything she predicted is happening.

See 23 min 37 sec

 

[radioman]

Pft.

With all respect, do you know how hard it is to net flip 15 Senate Seats?

I think the number of necessary flipped Senate seats is closer to 20 than 15.
No chance that will happen.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

I love when my POTUS jokes about dictatorships.

 

[Chomsky]

A bit of correction. It's $89k and change, and there is some regional variability. It can be a starting salary of $49k. Sign on is still $50k.

My contention remains that this will be attractive to more and more people as the economy is guttered.

Alrightee, thanks for your correction.

49K is a lot different than 89K, but yeah - that 50K sign-on is nice enticement.

When I was graduating from school, the Fed employment entry-level pay-scale for my profession was pretty horrendous compared to private industry. It was literally only 50-60% of what I expected in the private industry "plum catches"!

However there also was seniority pay (outside of COLA), meaning every year the position's pay went-up something like 3%.

The fed benefits weren't any better than top-flight corporations back then, often perhaps very slightly deficient - to be honest. But the retirement pension was the thing. That was the main object of value, along with seemingly good job security.

 

[radioman]

It's hard to flip 15 Senate seats, but flipping all of those seats might not be necessary to get an impeachment conviction.

Many GOP senators are VERY unhappy with Trump, and might vote to convict when given the opportunity. So maybe Dems picking up 8 or 9 seats might be enough.

#1 question for you......Name 5 GOP Senators who are VERY unhappy with Trump.
#2 question for you......How many of those VERY unhappy GOPers will actually vote to impeach DJT?

 

[Threegoofs]

The point that I believe was being made, is that 90K + 50K +O.T. might indeed be enticing to MAGA H.S. grads in MAGA prevalent areas.

I suspect that's a pretty solid "no-experience-needed" H.S. grad starting rate in a lot of Southern & rural Red MAGA states.

Even by me, in one of the more expensive (but not ridiculously so) metro regions in the nation, there's very few High School grads that can walk into guaranteed 150K first year with no experience.

Now several years in a blue-collar trade might do it. Ditto for some other things like sales or financial trading. But not just sign-up, get accepted, guaranteed 140K + O.T. - no experience needed.

ICE doesnt start at $90K per year for a HS grad with no experience. Its more like $50K. They also get a $10K bonus a year for the next four years, not $50K the first year.

Here's how much ICE agents earn and what their benefits look like

The agency is set to hire about 10,000 new officers following the passage of President Donald Trump's reconciliation bill.

www.newsweek.com

 

[radioman]

I agree with this.

Once Dump is convicted, he loses all security. EVERYBODY he appointed in removed from office. That includes three shitbags from the SCOTUS.

Really?
Since there has never been a successful impeachment, who knew?
The impeachment option is looking better and better.

 

[reinaert]

ICE doesnt start at $90K per year for a HS grad with no experience. Its more like $50K. They also get a $10K bonus a year for the next four years, not $50K the first year.

Here's how much ICE agents earn and what their benefits look like

The agency is set to hire about 10,000 new officers following the passage of President Donald Trump's reconciliation bill.

www.newsweek.com

It appears to be regionally adjusted.

 

[ColdHardTruth]

Really?

That is correct.

Since there has never been a successful impeachment, who knew?
The impeachment option is looking better and better.

There have been successful impeachments, just no convictions.

Trump was guilty and the scum in the Senate knew it. Trump wasn't convicted due to politics. That alone is an offense that should cost every GQP moron that voted to acquit their seats, pensions, and benefits.

 

[mrjurrs]

I mean, everyone who supports his policies, which are in fact, as dictatorial as he can get away with. If you support the military takeover of DC, then you support authoritarianism. People just don't like the label. When push comes to shove, it's more popular than many of us would like to think.

I used to think most Americans liked freedom, and that was a shared value across the political spectrum but that doesn't look like the case anymore.

I disagree with your conclusions.

 

[radioman]

Federal land. If you're really interested, the links are in my sig. The feds own ~85% of the state. If land bills hadn't passed in the '90s, there wouldn't be over 2,000,000 people in the Las Vegas Valley. The state had no need for land until rapid growth in the '90s left Las Vegas in the position we are now in up north.

Everything is built out here. Topography is as limiting as the feds. Most suburbs consist of small valleys, some tiny, that hold less than 10,000 people. The Mt. Rose corridor is built up from the valley floor almost to the summit. These are wealthy communities. These suburban areas are also well built out, but are mostly gated communities where the price of admission is in the multi-millions. The housing shortage isn't related to high-income suburbs.

Here's a photo from someone who hiked up Verdi Peak, which is just across the state line in California. It illustrates the housing issue.

The small patch of flat land center left is the town of Verdi, a suburb west of Reno. The area to the left of the freeway is developed. The area to the right is under construction. This is an old picture, but 1,200 acres of the foothills are now under construction with luxury homes. This will build out Verdi. The development, Quilici Ranch, borders on Forest Service land and the Mt. Rose Wilderness. Nowhere else to go.

Notice the topography. Homes are built up into the mountainside as far as they can practically be built. This is actually wide open space compared to parts of the North Valleys. Panther Valley may be a half square mile. Golden Valley may be a square mile and a half.

Anyway, there are limited infill projects and some, like the Quilici property, are building out the last remaining substantially sized parcels. With the growth of the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center east of Sparks, it would make sense to free up federal land between the two, which Rosen's bill addresses. The TRI Center employs over 20,000 people, all of whom commute. Building housing five miles away from work rather than 15 miles away makes sense to me, but politics doesn't always make sense.

Beautiful picture, beautiful land.
I haven't journeyed to Reno for 25 years or so.
I had no idea that the area had grown this much.
I'm guessing the Carson City area has experienced similar growth?

 

[radioman]

I love when my POTUS jokes about dictatorships.

Yes!!!
He's just so darn brash!

 

[upsideguy]

The dude is definitely narcissistic if nothing else.
I actually do imagine some people (his inner circle) is saying that.

Agreed.

I also believe that 80+ % of the country would completely dismantle the WH in order to overthrow it.

Not so sure.... a slow moving coup, which is what we are witnessing, comes with a rachet effect. We keep moving the goal post of "comfort" making the next step after everyone has settled down and rationalized their comfort with the last. The whole idea is the suppress outrage so it never happens. Its the boiling frogs in water analogy. It will soon be too late.

If you are not already outraged about where we are and the trajectory, what is going to outrage you?

Trump: 'A Lot of People Are Saying Maybe We'd Like a Dictator'

Donald Trump said "a lot" of Americans want a dictator while taking question in the Oval Office on Monday, but claimed he doesn't want to rule as one.

www.rollingstone.com

He's saying it out loud.

I am waiting for a MAGAt to tell me that man with zero sense of humor is "only joking" Oddly, 60 post in and no Trump supporters chiming in. I guess even they are tired of explaining/justifying/rationalizing him, which would be understandable if they were real Americans with a conscience.

 

[ScrambledEggs]

Yes!!!
He's just so darn brash!

Sexy too! No homo

 

[upsideguy]

Trump: 'A Lot of People Are Saying Maybe We'd Like a Dictator'

Donald Trump said "a lot" of Americans want a dictator while taking question in the Oval Office on Monday, but claimed he doesn't want to rule as one.

www.rollingstone.com

He's saying it out loud.

I am waiting for a MAGAt to tell me that man with zero sense of humor is "only joking"

 

[ScrambledEggs]

I am waiting for a MAGAt to tell me that man with zero sense of humor is "only joking"

Zero? You libs wouldn't know humor if it smacked you in your trans faces!

 

[radioman]

If you are not already outraged about where we are and the trajectory, what is going to outrage you?

I predict if impeachment occurs, "moderate" GOP Senator Susan Collins will opine that...."I believe the President has learned a lesson"
No GOP senator will vote for impeachment........ever.

 

[Michael Cole]

Beautiful picture, beautiful land.
I haven't journeyed to Reno for 25 years or so.
I had no idea that the area had grown this much.
I'm guessing the Carson City area has experienced similar growth?

Carson was built out ten years ago. Regardless of land ownership, the surrounding mountains are undevelopable. It has nowhere to go, and I think the city has lost a few hundred residents lately. Population maxes out at about 60,000, which has held steady for a long time.

Douglas County south of Carson has grown. Development now stretches from Cold Springs in the north to Gardnerville Ranchos in the south. Washoe Valley is still a recreational area between Reno and Carson, but everything else has been developed.

 

[Cope]

Agreed.



Not so sure.... a slow moving coup, which is what we are witnessing, comes with a rachet effect. We keep moving the goal post of "comfort" making the next step after everyone has settled down and rationalized their comfort with the last. The whole idea is the suppress outrage so it never happens. Its the boiling frogs in water analogy. It will soon be too late.

If you are not already outraged about where we are and the trajectory, what is going to outrage you?


I am waiting for a MAGAt to tell me that man with zero sense of humor is "only joking" Oddly, 60 post in and no Trump supporters chiming in. I guess even they are tired of explaining/justifying/rationalizing him, which would be understandable if they were real Americans with a conscience.

I try not to get outraged over our political landscape, and honestly I think I lost hope a couple decades ago of accomplishing any real change. Every politician is bought and paid for and it matters not one whit what letter they carry behind their name.
I'm also in a tax bracket where if I wanted to pack up and go, I could, my kids are almost all grown.

 

[Cope]

Federal land. If you're really interested, the links are in my sig. The feds own ~85% of the state. If land bills hadn't passed in the '90s, there wouldn't be over 2,000,000 people in the Las Vegas Valley. The state had no need for land until rapid growth in the '90s left Las Vegas in the position we are now in up north.

Everything is built out here. Topography is as limiting as the feds. Most suburbs consist of small valleys, some tiny, that hold less than 10,000 people. The Mt. Rose corridor is built up from the valley floor almost to the summit. These are wealthy communities. These suburban areas are also well built out, but are mostly gated communities where the price of admission is in the multi-millions. The housing shortage isn't related to high-income suburbs.

Topography is limiting everywhere to some degree. It has high(er) costs associated, which does restrict young buyers usually. But unless the government is sitting on useable land (for what purpose?) and can be bought by developers, then perhaps the area isn't suitable for continued growth. Might have to move.
I have experienced a westward migration my entire working life (from Austin) because I can't stand living in town, noise, schools and traffic.

Here's a photo from someone who hiked up Verdi Peak, which is just across the state line in California. It illustrates the housing issue.

I mean, looks beautiful and daunting from a developmental standpoint.

The small patch of flat land center left is the town of Verdi, a suburb west of Reno. The area to the left of the freeway is developed. The area to the right is under construction. This is an old picture, but 1,200 acres of the foothills are now under construction with luxury homes. This will build out Verdi. The development, Quilici Ranch, borders on Forest Service land and the Mt. Rose Wilderness. Nowhere else to go.

Notice the topography. Homes are built up into the mountainside as far as they can practically be built. This is actually wide open space compared to parts of the North Valleys. Panther Valley may be a half square mile. Golden Valley may be a square mile and a half.

Anyway, there are limited infill projects and some, like the Quilici property, are building out the last remaining substantially sized parcels. With the growth of the Tahoe Reno Industrial Center east of Sparks, it would make sense to free up federal land between the two, which Rosen's bill addresses. The TRI Center employs over 20,000 people, all of whom commute. Building housing five miles away from work rather than 15 miles away makes sense to me, but politics doesn't always make sense.

Much of Louisiana is lower than sea level, talk about a temporary facade of livable areas!

 

[j brown's body]

Exactly. Enough with the jibber-jabber.

It's time to actually get rid of Trump. The best way to (legally) unseat a president is with impeachment, and Senate conviction.

It would be tough today to get 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict. Maybe wait for November. Dems will almost certainly pick up many seats in the Senate. Dems need to win 15 seats to have a 2/3 majority.

With the GOP putting plans in place to control the House for the foreseeable future, I doubt impeachment will be in the cards.

 

[upsideguy]

I try not to get outraged over our political landscape, and honestly I think I lost hope a couple decades ago of accomplishing any real change. Every politician is bought and paid for and it matters not one whit what letter they carry behind their name.
I'm also in a tax bracket where if I wanted to pack up and go, I could, my kids are almost all grown.

On one level, what you say is refreshing as I don't know how many posters here will tell us the Constitution will protect us, which is hopelessly naive. On another level, you offer a degree of cynicism that is discomforting in its own right. I guess I am in the middle, still hoping people will wake up and fight, before its too late. I suppose that its is own level of naivete.

I have been thinking for a while of moving out of the country, but in the end, I decided I was too old to make that work well. I, did, however, recently relocate from Denver to Southwest Colorado, with a part of my motivation to remove myself somewhat from urban life where this is in your face everyday, replacing it with simply enjoying life, where the day often starts with a good paddle, a long bike ride or a little flyfishing... in other words, I am trying to get to my roots of enjoyment and shut much of this out.

That said, I am still a politically aware person that loves what America has been. I do believe in the 'shinning city on the hill' though that is long past. It is very tough to watch this, particularly to see my fellow Americans fall for this clown that will screw them (all of us) eventually, if they haven't been screwed already. I do fear for America's future.