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And when those people no longer felt welcome in the Democratic Party, the GOP welcomed them with open arms.
You know, it was! And it was Democrats in the KKK. And it was Democrats who passed and enforced Jim Crow laws.
One has to be a bit careful about that. Many liberals/progressive/Democrats assume that the Southern Strategy resulted in fairly large numbers of racist Democrats instantly jumping to the Republican Party, but that didn't happen, In fact, only Strom Thurmond made such a leap. Over time, the voters in the South became more Republican and elected Republicans to Congress. That's confirmed by your source.
Nothing in that post refutes my claim.See post #174.
Probably. My point, however, is that the left is responsible for slavery, the KKK and Jim Crow, the worst periods of racism in our history.And when those people no longer felt welcome in the Democratic Party, the GOP welcomed them with open arms.
That's what I said. And, I said, the voters changing parties didn't just happen overnight.Well, no, the voters switched sides, they just didn't take the politicians with them.
And nothing in this post refutes my claim of Democrat/leftist history of racism for 400 years of our history.Nothing in that post refutes my claim.
History refutes your claim. The Democrat Party was founded in 1828. But if you want to use labels to place blame for slavery in this country you're going to need to do more research. What the history shows is different. Start with "White, Upper-class, European Christians" and go from there.And nothing in this post refutes my claim of Democrat/leftist history of racism for 400 years of our history.
And now he's in the death/torture prison.Romero applied for asylum. Immigration Judge Paula Dixon dismissed his case. That's due process.
I have been arrested or detained by cops and by immigration officials on about half dozen occasions due to various suspicions they had about my union activities or suspicions of me at or near the border. All had badges, showed their faces, identified themselves, and some even had name tags. Some even explained and apologized for their mistakes. Having masked people do arrests on the streets, taking people to distant detention facilities, sending them to faraway continents, not telling family members where or why — all this in some cases for immigration violations only — are the signs of a police state.So you figure that if illegal alien criminals, criminal gang members, and those who have been ordered out of the country by an immigration court are, in fact, deported, that you will be? Are you a citizen?
And you seem to think that ICE wearing masks is a bad idea. Why?
That, my friend, is why I said, "Democrats/leftists..."The Democrat Party was founded in 1828.
Would you rather I started with some form of nomadic tribe hundreds of years B.C.? Were they white? They certainly weren't Christians. And there was no place called "Europe."Start with "White, Upper-class, European Christians" and go from there.
A credible cite, please.And now he's in the death/torture prison.
"A year ago, Andry José Hernández Romero left Venezuela to seek a better future in the United States.A credible cite, please.
People who do the task are masked to protect themselves and their families from people of the sort that have threatened Supreme Court Justices, from the people who have announced that they will publish their names and addresses.Having masked people do arrests on the streets, taking people to distant detention facilities, sending them to faraway continents, not telling family members where or why — all this in some cases for immigration violations only — are the signs of a police state.
Is he still there, or like "the Maryland Dad" was he moved to a more liberal facility, or even released?Andry Hernández is one of hundreds of migrants who in mid-March were deported to Cecot
You would still be wrong.That, my friend, is why I said, "Democrats/leftists..."
I'd rather you stick to the argument.Would you rather I started with some form of nomadic tribe hundreds of years B.C.? Were they white? They certainly weren't Christians. And there was no place called "Europe."
Now you're just being hostile. I have explored the topic, quite thoroughly. Slavery in the US was much more inhumane than the practice was in other cultures.I specifically referred to 400 years of our history. But if you're so eager to escape any responsibility for what happened in this country, you're certainly welcome to explore the whole history of slavery (don't forget slavery by blacks in Africa) if you like, but you'll do it without me.
WowIs he still there, or like "the Maryland Dad" was he moved to a more liberal facility, or even released?
The "typical plantation owner" was a precursor of the Democrat Party.Doesn't sound like the typical plantation owner, does it?
At least in this country, slaves were seldom pitted against each other in fights to the death for the entertainment of the masses.Now you're just being hostile. I have explored the topic, quite thoroughly. Slavery in the US was much more inhumane than the practice was in other cultures.
Yep. And those who would eventually belong to the Democrat Party were it's chief practitioners and defenders, to the extent of trying to split the country. When they lost that attempt they carried on with the KKK and the passage of Jim Crow laws.Enslaved people were not recognized as human beings but as property that could be mortgaged, traded, bought, sold, used as collateral, given as a gift and disposed of violently.
I'm sorry. I don't know how to translate that as an answer to my question. I'll just take it that you don't know.
So Trump picked a guy (makeup artist) up off the street and sent him to the same prison that we sent the other guy (where he was tortured) and I gave you a link that shows that this guy was also sent to that same prison where they torture people and you're going to start asking a bunch of questions about if he's still there even though his family has said repeatedly that they cannot contact him in that prison.I'm sorry. I don't know how to translate that as an answer to my question. I'll just take it that you don't know.
A credible cite, please.we sent the other guy (where he was tortured)
Yes. I tend to question much of the propaganda posted by sympathetic people, since their ideology shades their thinking and, sometimes, their reporting. And why can't his family contact him at that prison? If he's not still in it, they wouldn't be able to, would they?you're going to start asking a bunch of questions about if he's still there even though his family has said repeatedly that they cannot contact him in that prison.
I didn't ask if he had been sent to a golf course. I said a more lenient facility, that is, a prison where non-violent people are held and treatment is better. Furthermore, I didn't refer to "these people." I referred only to the guy who is the subject of the thread.Does asking those questions, like if they transferred him to a golf course or something, make you feel better about these people they are sending to that prison where they torture people?
Asking question that you should have asked before you got all wrapped around the axle is not a "diversion." It's honest curiosity.Is that the diversion that you really want to use?
I gave you one and the guy they finally brought back (after saying they couldn't) has already documented how he was tortured.A credible cite, please.
The CNN article you cited did NOT say anyone was tortured. In fact, it said, “One of the greatest forms of torture imposed by Cecot is isolating people from their loved ones:" That isn't "torture." Furthermore, the CNN article loses credibility because it neglects to mention that his case was dismissed by an Immigration Judge. He had due process.I gave you one and the guy they finally brought back (after saying they couldn't) has already documented how he was tortured.
Of course I do.Do you even care about your fellow man?
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